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Forum: Marine Electronics 19-05-2018, 11:13
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

I no longer have it, it is still on a previous boat. Pretty sure they weren’t 10 ga, might have been 12 ga, but most likely 14 ga. I don’t think it matters a lot, but larger gauge the better.
Forum: Marine Electronics 14-04-2016, 19:36
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

OK, we are on the same page, I do agree with you here.
Forum: Marine Electronics 14-04-2016, 16:29
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

I will say that if the antenna system with the KISS is acting more like a 20 meter dipole than as a ground for a "ground mounted monopole" that the experiment may not be valid, since in that case the...
Forum: Marine Electronics 14-04-2016, 16:10
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

Ground current is directly related to antenna efficiency. If the transmitter is putting out a fixed and same amount of power in each test, that is what is exiting the antenna tuner and going into the...
Forum: Marine Electronics 14-04-2016, 11:50
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

I'll bet it is a power meter which assumes a 50 ohm impedance. In that instance it would just be indicating relative current, but that is still enough information to judge relative performance. The...
Forum: Marine Electronics 10-04-2016, 11:44
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

Thanks for your findings. I think that is fairly consistent with expectations, i.e. for a shorter than resonant antenna, low ground resistance becomes increasingly critical as the frequency...
Forum: Marine Electronics 28-01-2016, 07:37
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

I don't agree with transmitterdan's "attractor" theory, and have seen nothing in my experience to support it, but RF can be a perplexing bedfellow without a doubt.

Godurix is right that even a...
Forum: Marine Electronics 27-01-2016, 10:33
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

The RF ground system for a vertical monopole (backstay, whip) in your boat provides a return path for the RF current that "mirrors" the antenna current. This has to be equal to the RF current going...
Forum: Marine Electronics 18-01-2016, 07:17
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

But even if that copper strap to the bronze through-hull is 15 or 20 feet it will still be a lower impedance (better) counterpoise/RF ground than the KISS.


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Forum: Marine Electronics 22-12-2015, 20:44
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

You can see at the start of this thread how the KISS is constructed. No need to spend $160 for something you can easily duplicate for far, far less.


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Forum: Marine Electronics 08-10-2014, 04:07
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

Santanasailor -

I'm pretty sure the approach you speak of will work as well as or better than the KISS, and perhaps as well as or even better than the traditional copper strap approach, though it...
Forum: Marine Electronics 25-02-2014, 05:26
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

The capacitors in the pi network of the antenna tuner that pass the full RF current are nowhere near the size of those doorknob capacitors, and if you go so far as to open one up and take a look, you...
Forum: Marine Electronics 24-02-2014, 05:37
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

If the fuel or water tank is not DC grounded, adding it to the RF ground may be helpful IMO. The more RF ground you have with a low resistance path back to the auto tuner, the less likely you will...
Forum: Marine Electronics 21-10-2013, 08:56
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
I think a shorter feed line to the antenna would...

I think a shorter feed line to the antenna would be more important than a shorter distance to the dynaplate. The RF ground benefits from more area, while the radiating vertical antenna benefits from...
Forum: Marine Electronics 21-10-2013, 07:05
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Klaus - If your path and connection to the...

Klaus -

If your path and connection to the Dynaplate are good, additional ground plane strategies might help but only incrementally and you may not notice.

Throwing some ground lug connected...
Forum: Marine Electronics 06-07-2013, 20:34
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
There you have it! Case closed! Thank you very...

There you have it! Case closed! Thank you very much Calestis. Imagine our relief!

By the way, the Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything is 42. So we can stop...
Forum: Marine Electronics 23-01-2013, 08:23
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

The search is over! Here is a great broadband HF antenna:

GVARC's Titan Missile Page (https://gvarc.us/GVARCFrames/Titan/Discone/Discone.htm)

The Battleship Missouri has a similar one on its...
Forum: Marine Electronics 24-10-2012, 11:58
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

Simon -

I don't think anyone has been saying it wouldn't work. My point in a nutshell is that it is rather costly for what it really is, it isn't exactly what it is marketed to be, its performance...
Forum: Marine Electronics 30-08-2012, 12:01
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Make some more but use opaque tubing. Calculate...

Make some more but use opaque tubing. Calculate the sum total of the lengths of all the fine wire that composes the braid. Market it as having so many hundred feet of wire radials built into it....
Forum: Marine Electronics 13-12-2011, 15:43
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
What is on Eham right now is the builder's...

What is on Eham right now is the builder's description of the product lifted from the web page. So far, I don't see any actual user reviews.
Forum: Marine Electronics 31-08-2011, 06:48
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Ahh yes. Anecdotal reports and ad hominem...

Ahh yes. Anecdotal reports and ad hominem attacks. The best weapons against enlightened inquiry for millenia.
Forum: Marine Electronics 30-08-2011, 11:47
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

hellosailor - No need to xray the KISS. I started this thread after opening one up to see what it was made of. The accompanying pictures document it. No special inductors were found, just various...
Forum: Marine Electronics 20-08-2011, 13:00
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

This is where he is coming from: There is no evidence, so far, that the KISS is actually more effective than a single 14 ft piece of wire similarly placed in the bilge. The inventor, simply saying...
Forum: Marine Electronics 14-06-2011, 11:41
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

No doubt the bundle of wires in the KISS has some inductance - all wires do. I've not seen any evidence that any inductance that might reside in the KISS bundle is tuned to any practical effect. In...
Forum: Marine Electronics 13-06-2011, 18:06
Replies: 378
Views: 131,493
Posted By SoonerSailor
Re: The KISS SSB Counterpoise - Revealed ( with Pics )

Juergen -

I started this thread to try to figure out what the KISS is and isn't since there is a paucity of hard data anywhere. I have been using testing tools and methods that should tell us a...
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