Crew Wanted: China to Panama

[hoppy]

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[Blue Antigua]

Hi Hoppy...
Are you sending this message to me ?...cause' I'm not shipping a boat...!?

[hoppy]

Originally Posted by Blue Antigua

Hi Hoppy...
Are you sending this message to me ?...cause' I'm not shipping a boat...!?

Nope, to the OP incase they want to check out the Dockwise option

[atoll]

as the boat needs to be sailed,the best route would be via singapore the the north indian ocean,mozambique channel,cape town,arriving in the carribean some time in march,this would also be a down wind route,so minamal wear and tare as opposed to the windward north pacific/southern ocean route,and very little time spent in cyclone prone areas.

i may be free nov- march to skipper,send me a pm and we can talk,100,000miles plus experince skippering

[foolishsailor]

Please listen to Atoll. It sounds longer but the wear amd tear and actual cost will be less.

Regardless of the direction hopefully you have in mind that the delivery distance is huge and part of your cost will be a serious overhaul of running rigging, sails, diesel etc. You dont move a boat that distance for only the cost of diesel and crew.

I am surprised that you have been told that you cant ship the boat, even if you have to sail it to a port that specializes i shipping yachts utilizing specialized ships.

The intangible costs you will incur on a boat that large to move it that distance are enormous.

However it may a situation of if you have to ask you cant afford.

I guess one could look at it as a shake down cruise.

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by atoll

......the best route would be via singapore the the north indian ocean,mozambique channel,cape town,arriving in the carribean some time in march,this would also be a down wind route,so minamal wear and tare as opposed to the windward north pacific/southern ocean route,and very little time spent in cyclone prone areas.....
.....100,000miles....

I agree a South Pacific route is quite a bashing… especially for a Cat, so would definitely advise your downwind route over that.

However, if he had new build delays I would still consider a May- June 2014 departure China-via Japan to Seattle or San Fran via a North Pacific Great Circle route, staying in the prevailing 15knt Westerly zone as the Pacific High establishes itself.

Advantage of then following West Coast NA to Panama Canal and entry to Caribbean, is that it lends itself to supplies/crew changes and refuge ports

Did not measure, but I am guessing 15 to 20,000 nm by comparison

A lot would depend on my initial assessment of boat and whether it is ready for a 100k offshore delivery past the Cape.

[atoll]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

I agree a South Pacific route is quite a bashing… especially for a Cat, so would definitely advise your downwind route over that.

However, if he had new build delays I would still consider a May- June 2014 departure China-via Japan to Seattle or San Fran via a North Pacific Great Circle route, staying in the prevailing 15knt Westerly zone as the Pacific High establishes itself.

Advantage of then following West Coast NA to Panama Canal and entry to Caribbean, is that it lends itself to supplies/crew changes and refuge ports

Did not measure, but I am guessing 15 to 20,000 nm by comparison

A lot would depend on my initial assessment of boat and whether it is ready for a 100k offshore delivery past the Cape.

my route via seyshells,is only 2000 miles longer,but is actually 10 days faster,using 7knots via the s pacific windward run in nov.

@hong kong to antigua=10763 miles @7knots=64 days

as opposed to the downwind route where the boat would probably average 10 knots.
@ hong kong,to antigua=12909miles@10knots=53days,

this would be 11 days faster ,avoid the south pacific cyclones and be a much genteler trip with minimal motoring,passing the cape mid summer and potentially arrive 2 weeks earlier than a bash across the pacific if the voyage must be undertaken in november.

a may-june crossing ,the north pacific route of course would be best,but that was not the question,the question was about a departure in november,mid winter in the n pac,and cyclone season in the s pac!

[JayCall]

I would second those encouraging shipping. Check out Peters & May, call Vic Spellberg in their Lauderdale office. They are a British company that specializes in yacht shipping, especially as deck cargo, all over the world. They have a Hong Kong office and should be well versed in shipping from China. Easiest and fastest (and probably cheapest) way to get your boat to the Caribbean.

I have no relationship with them other than as a satisfied customer.

[Raidersmama]

Thanks to all the posters!
The shipping co previously mentioned can do it, for 120, 000 usd. And it will only take about a month, so that is good.
Not sure which is the better way to go? The 120 is to Victoria bc...I asked gor that and panama. Waiting for a quote on that as well, for at that time of year its a better fit for my scheduling.
Any thoughts on which is a better way to go? I just have no idea!

[Sailingsoon1959]

Please contact Louis at 247sailing. Com he can do the job got the captains and the exp alot less money and your boat will be in great shape
Louis@247sailing.com

[atoll]

Originally Posted by Raidersmama

Thanks to all the posters!
The shipping co previously mentioned can do it, for 120, 000 usd. And it will only take about a month, so that is good.
Not sure which is the better way to go? The 120 is to Victoria bc...I asked gor that and panama. Waiting for a quote on that as well, for at that time of year its a better fit for my scheduling.
Any thoughts on which is a better way to go? I just have no idea!

if your end destination is panama in dec-jan-feb,having the boat in bc will not do you any favours,a winter delivery to panama from bc could be quite risky due to bad weather off the west coast.

[boatman61]

Personally I have no interest in the job..
however if I was.. I'd go for Atolls route.. or pretty damn close to it if under sail... to much crap going the other route... and downwind she should fly...

[bluewind]

I am willing to offer my services as a first mate. I have RYA Yachtmaster offshore qualification and PADI Dive Instructor too. Currently I am working as a skipper for 33 feet catamaran so I have experience on cat. I have over 4500 sailing miles and am good a night watches and navigation.

I am sending my CV for your reference and should be available anytime from November 2013.

[daddle]

If it to Panama only then a NE'ly passage thru the N Pacific is the way. But November is too late. More like June as a poster above said. Fairly easy trip. No typhoons until Mexico.

But it is probably to the Caribbean, no? So W is the better way.

Reading between the lines ... This is a shakedown cruise on a new Chinese built yacht. If your experience is like others before you, you won't make it to even Taiwan before major service is required. You'll need a sense of humor to survive. Shipping as deck cargo had better be to a major yachting center because the first few miles may be more than interesting.

Good luck.

[bvimatelot]

Definitely go for Atholl's route: you'll also save the delays and cost of a Panama Canal transit.

I'd love to do it, have second qualified skipper and mate, know most of the route having sailed it (except the Cape Town Antigua leg), have many long distance catamaran deliveries under my belt including 2 transats - and although money doesn't appear to be a problem - can cetainly do it for considerably less than the shipping quotes! Tony