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harpoon5.2 15-05-2007 20:18

Talk me out of this....
 
I have a small Boston Whaler harpoon 5.2 and I mentioned to a friend it would be cool to sail it from Florida to the Bahamas. Now all he has been talking about is doing that later this summer for a couple weeks. We are both college students on break and have nothing better to do than look for some adventure.

My sailing experience consists of sailing the harpoon around on lakes in the midwest. Also when I was a kid I lived in Kemah, TX and we had a Erikson 38. I have never plotted a course or sailed to a destination that wasn't where I left from.

What keeping me from wanting to do this is, I would have to drag the thing from Iowa to Florida, storeage of my truck and trailor in Florida for along time, and I have a really small boat.

Talk me out of it. :dork:

CSY Man 15-05-2007 20:28

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I have a small Boston Whaler harpoon 5.2
Would that be 5.2 METERS or 5.2 FEET?

I assume Meters, but I also assume ya are from the US of A where most folks can't even spell meters so why would the boats be measured that way...:confused:

harpoon5.2 15-05-2007 20:40

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Originally Posted by CSY Man
Would that be 5.2 METERS or 5.2 FEET?

I assume Meters, but I also assume ya are from the US of A where most folks can't even spell meters so why would the boats be measured that way...:confused:

Yes, it is meters, and yes I am from the US. I have no Idea why it is measured that way but that is the model.

Stock photo:
https://www.ruach.net/Harpoon/brochure/52pg1.jpg

CaptainK 15-05-2007 20:54

Harpoon5.8

If you and your freind were going that long of a distance in that boat.

I say I better tell ya to get out of that!!

That boat is only best used for just-off-the-shore sailing along coastal areas only. In that dinghy type of sailboat. Only good for day sailing.

I am sure that there are others in here who might say the same thing.

You wanted talked out of it. Well!! I am talking you out of that trip in "that" boat!! My advice to you. :sprint:

Desert Sailors 15-05-2007 20:57

As far as spelling "meters" it should NEVER have been in the American vocabulary to start with. The so called conversion to the metric system has screwed up almost every commodity it has come in association with in regards to the American public..

We colonial Ameicans, seemed to have done fairly well, using our own measurement system for nearly 200 years, somehow overcoming the lack of the metric system and becoming a world power along the way.

The only thing that has come from the "metric convesion" is confusion, paying the same for a smaller amount of almost anything, thus allowing manufacturers to reshape the packaging slightly to assure that the American consumer, fairly ignorant of the conversion ratios, wouldn't be aware that they are not getting the "quart", "pint", "pound" that they thought or trusted that they would be getting.

Its been a boondoggle since its inception, and hasn't gotten better.

When I buy a boat, I like it measured in FEET! When I buy fuel, I like it in Gallons etc..etc.

JMHO, and I'm sure you'll all have yours.

harpoon5.2 15-05-2007 20:58

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Originally Posted by CaptainK
Harpoon5.8

If you and your freind were going that long of a distance in that boat.

I say I better tell ya to get out of that!!

That boat is only best used for just-off-the-shore sailing along coastal areas only. In that dinghy type of sailboat. Only good for day sailing.

I am sure that there are others in here who might say the same thing.

You wanted talked out of it. Well!! I am talking you out of that trip in "that" boat!! My advice to you. :sprint:

Thanks, I was thinking the same thing, but my buddy is pretty persistant. Now I kind of want to check out how much it would cost to fly down and rent a boat for a week or so, even though I know it would be out of my budget. :)

Inthewind 15-05-2007 21:00

It is very possible to do what you are saying but I would by no means encourage you to do so. You need a bigger boat to do it safely,no pun intended. I would however tell you to have fun in that boat close to shore.

CaptainK 15-05-2007 21:01

Your welcome.

I was not trying to smash any hopes for you to go sailing one day. I just would not take "that" trip. In "that" boat IMHO.

If you look around the internet. Maybe you could partner up with other people heading into that direction. Or you and your friend could rent a boat. :)



harpoon5.2 15-05-2007 21:05

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Originally Posted by CaptainK
Your welcome.

I was not trying to smash any hopes for you to go sailing one day. I just would not take "that" trip. In "that" boat IMHO.

If you look around the internet. Maybe you could partner up with other people heading into that direction. Or you and your friend could rent a boat. :)



No worries, I was being the rational one and said it was not that feasable in the first place. My next step though is to see how much it would cost to fly down and rent a boat, but I am sure it is out of my price range. We are in our early 20's so we have alot of time left for cruising. :D

CSY Man 15-05-2007 21:20

With expensive modifications you could sail that thing across the gulfstream safely.

As is, it looks a bit open and vulnerable.
Not only from mother nature, but also from the big motor yachts and sportfishing boats that cross at 30 knots on autopilot without a proper lookout and without really caring if they run over some poor souls in their 5.2 trying to prove a point or win a bet.

Besides that, it CAN BE DONE if weather and luck are smiling at ya.

I would not..Too old and too wise now.

30 years ago perhaps: Because I had more balls than brains.

Good luck and hat off, but don't be stupid.

muskoka 15-05-2007 21:27

Why not trailer it to the 30,000 Islands (Georgian Bay) load up camping gear and bob around there for a few weeks. Beautiful scenery, fresh clean water and lots of places to pitch a tent. You could even sleep in the boat and take it down the Trent Canal to Kingston.

I'd recommend August as the bugs will have largely abated and the blueberries grow wild up there.

Don't rethink the boat, rethink the trip.

Cheers, Muskoka

Alan Wheeler 15-05-2007 21:30

You have answered your own question. You had to ask, so the reply from me would be no. If you were confident and competent to not need to ask, then you would have my blessing. I don't really know the area you intend to sail, but I would say it was possible for a boat like this to cope, providing the crew were skilled enough to cope. There are those with enough skill and courage to sail a boat like this just about anywhere. But there also those that want off 40fters as soon as a sea gets a little over a chop.

dana-tenacity 15-05-2007 21:34

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Originally Posted by Desert Sailors
When I buy fuel, I like it in Gallons etc..etc.

Did you mean imperial gallons??

harpoon5.2 15-05-2007 21:36

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Originally Posted by muskoka
Why not trailer it to the 30,000 Islands (Georgian Bay) load up camping gear and bob around there for a few weeks. Beautiful scenery, fresh clean water and lots of places to pitch a tent. You could even sleep in the boat and take it down the Trent Canal to Kingston.

I'd recommend August as the bugs will have largely abated and the blueberries grow wild up there.

Don't rethink the boat, rethink the trip.

Cheers, Muskoka

wow thanks for the tip. I google earth'd it and it sent me to the great lakes. It that what you are talking about? Looks cool.

Pblais 15-05-2007 21:55

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No worries, I was being the rational one and said it was not that feasible in the first place.
You could have a fun time with it camping out in close coastal waters. Maybe fresh water would be the better choice. I would remove the great lakes from your list as well but maybe some of the larger lakes could be a good time depending on the time of year.

Crossing the Gulf stream is a clearly not a safe idea. I think if you lived within your own and the boats limits you could sail some place and have fun. Hey, you are looking for fun not the incredible journey. Crossing the Atlantic in the worlds smallest boat has been done. It's less than 3 meters but was NOT an open boat.

OK, so you can't go the the Bahamas so what. It's about what you can do. Cruising out on nice lakes with islands for camping and having fun could be nice. It's what you know and what the boat can do. Seems more what you need for a fun time. Consider the extra money you would have for on shore adventure.

Lynx 16-05-2007 03:19

OK, it can be done, BUT I think that you would have a better/safer time just cruising Florida. A good handheld chartplotter will handle your navagation woe's and a good VHF will help you get out of trouble.

The Keys are very nice, So is the Everglades and the ICW and waterways. You could spend 3 seasons and not see everything.

You would not be the first to cross in such a boat and will not be the last. 5 months of 15 to 25 mph winds would be hard on you and your boat. Do Florida instead.

If you want some place to store you truck and trailer in Florida, I do know of a very secure yard, next to the water at $ 2 per foot/per month for trailerables.

cat man do 16-05-2007 05:10

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Originally Posted by Desert Sailors
The only thing that has come from the "metric convesion" is confusion,

Yep, that multiple of ten thing is just so confusing.:D

Dave

rtbates 16-05-2007 06:59

Gotta a death wish? IF you were an experienced skipper I'd say, well, actually IF you were an experienced skipper you would know your capabilities and wouldn't be asking the question. Anyhow, IF you were experienced, I'd say it could be done. The gulf stream in a 16 footer is not the place to gain experience, except maybe in how to drown. Having said that, I have a sailed a San Juan 21 across from Miami to Cat Key way back in 79. It's true god does take care of babies and fools. Even with a weeks worth of good weather we had 8 footers out there and it was hairy. I wouldn't do that again in a SJ21 for sure.

There are old sailors and bold sailors, but NO old, bold sailors!!

Pura Vida 16-05-2007 07:49

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Originally Posted by cat man do
Yep, that multiple of ten thing is just so confusing.:D

Dave

"There is not a streetwise kid in North america that can't tell you there is 2.2 pounds to the kilo and 28 grams to an ounce." anon

hellosailor 16-05-2007 09:07

There's also a "ten thousand islands" area on the SW Florida coast, two guys with a small open boat could have a blast there too--without worrying about taking the boat into open offshore waters.

Boat rentals in Florida tend to be, ah, stiff. But then again, trailering anything down these days wouldn't be cheap either. Compared to two airfares though, it might be worthwhile to bring yours down and enjoy it if you have the time for a long vacation.

Low Country Home Builder 16-05-2007 16:43

If you do go carry an EPIRB and a survival suit for each person on board. I have a feeling you will need them.............

Don't go in the ocean with that boat.

muskoka 16-05-2007 21:47

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Originally Posted by harpoon5.2
wow thanks for the tip. I google earth'd it and it sent me to the great lakes. It that what you are talking about? Looks cool.

Check out Pointe-au-Baril on the east coast of Georgian Bay. You'll have stunning scenery and 30,000 Islands to gunkhole around.

Georgian Bay Country

If you're more inclined, pop a 5hp on the back and head down the Trent Canal - this winds all the way through Cottage Country from Georgian Bay to Kingston (the 1000 Islands). It passes through dozens of beautiful lakes.

Parks Canada - Trent-Severn Waterway National Historic Site of Canada - Visiting by Boat

I've only done it by Canoe, but there's no reason why you couldn't do it in a sailboat. That whole area is Canadian Shield territory so the lakes are bordered by granite shorelines, deep and clear.

I took my wife there about 5 years ago (she's from the UK) and all she could say was 'Wow! Now I get it!". This was after I'd spent about 5 years boring her with stories about how beautiful the area is...and hence the name of our boat.

Cheers.


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