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SweetSerenity 09-06-2011 20:57

I just dont get it - Why? Why St Thomas?
 
What could possibly be so appealing about ST Thomas??? Please enlighten me? nothing personal intended....what could possibly be so appealing about ST Thomas...where they have to put an IRON cage around the pop machines....I have been there twice....and dont care top spend another minute or dime in a place so crimew ridden and disgusting!!!:banghead:

VirtualVagabond 09-06-2011 22:48

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Originally Posted by SweetSerenity (Post 704856)
What could possibly be so appealing about ST Thomas??? Please enlighten me? nothing personal intended....what could possibly be so appealing about ST Thomas...where they have to put an IRON cage around the pop machines....I have been there twice....and dont care top spend another minute or dime in a place so crimew ridden and disgusting!!!:banghead:

Sooo... what do you really think. Don't hold back...

gonesail 09-06-2011 22:59

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unless you know someone there .. maybe a couple of beaches and an airport.

Lexam 09-06-2011 23:00

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Guess that's the benefit of having a boat. :whistling:

savoir 09-06-2011 23:32

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Trying to make Kingston look good ?

pillum 09-06-2011 23:37

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Cheapest US airline gateway to the BVI?

bvimatelot 10-06-2011 02:45

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Originally Posted by pillum (Post 704900)
Cheapest US airline gateway to the BVI?

Yep - But hey, Don't Tell Everyone eh?

Rubikoop 10-06-2011 07:48

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Originally Posted by SweetSerenity (Post 704856)
What could possibly be so appealing about ST Thomas??? Please enlighten me? nothing personal intended....what could possibly be so appealing about ST Thomas...where they have to put an IRON cage around the pop machines....I have been there twice....and dont care top spend another minute or dime in a place so crimew ridden and disgusting!!!:banghead:


You said it all in the first question of your subject heading. You just don't get it... nothing personal intended.

You ask, "What could be so appealing?" There are many things, but by your own admission you don't get it. You've asked to be enlightened but then follow up stating that you don't want to spend another minute or dime here. It would appear your mind is already made up. That's a very unique position to take when asking for enlightenment. St Thomas, along with the other USVI aren't for everyone. Obviously they aren't for you, which is fine. I've traveled many places around the world and found some I didn't like and would never return to as well.

Since you've been here twice, I'm a little curious by your experiences that brought you to your opinions. Was your first visit so bad that you decided to come back again? Did something unpleasant happen on your second visit? Where you a victim of crime on both of your visits? What happened? Where were you when the crimes occurred? What time was it? How did the police handle it when you contacted them?

Where did you see the iron cage around the pop machine? I've no doubt that you saw it, I just can't think of where that might be.

offline 10-06-2011 08:06

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I guess the original poster hasn't been to Trinidad... everywhere I looked in Port of Spain there was concertina wire on top of walls and buildings.

s/v 'Faith' 10-06-2011 08:15

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You must not speak! The emperor DOES have clothes on... he does too...!

Magen's bay! https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/med...magens-bay.jpg All the gift shops!

What more is there to want? Maybe even a place to buy a cheeseburger and hear some piped in Jimmy Buffet music while rubbing elbows with the cruise ship 'cruisers'...


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Originally Posted by SweetSerenity (Post 704856)
What could possibly be so appealing about ST Thomas??? Please enlighten me? nothing personal intended....what could possibly be so appealing about ST Thomas...where they have to put an IRON cage around the pop machines....I have been there twice....and dont care top spend another minute or dime in a place so crimew ridden and disgusting!!!:banghead:


John A 10-06-2011 08:38

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It's big enough so that one can ignore cruisiers who are full of negitive judgements and delight in voiceing their opinions..
It is one of the few places in the Caibbean where you can find US stores to buy better clothes and stuff plus US brands of food.
It has a US Social Security office to resolve any issues.
Immigration and Customs is easier than St John IMO.
The large American Flag on the SE corner looks great to we who have been cruising awhile.
Being on a boat, I found that if I didn't like where I was, I could go somewhere else.

captainKJ 10-06-2011 08:48

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I would rather walk in downtown miami at night dead drunk in a bikini than go to the USVI,,,,,I would be safer in miami,,,,

Bill Burgette 10-06-2011 08:54

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I would rather walk in downtown miami at night dead drunk in a bikini than go to the USVI,,,,,I would be safer in miami,,,,
I hope you're a woman and not a guy.

captainKJ 10-06-2011 09:08

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does it really matter????????

Lifegoal2sail 10-06-2011 09:21

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OK, that's just wrong.

zeehag 10-06-2011 09:23

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if ye donjt like it--dont go there--simple...captain kj---that is deeezguzzting...LOL
mebbe a vacation in hollywood would calm the nerves of the original poster-- perhaps in compton.....

Cheechako 10-06-2011 09:25

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Well.... at least it's close to St John etc!

zeehag 10-06-2011 09:28

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publix market is a good reprovisioning place--is near cruise terminal.....

S/V_Surya 10-06-2011 09:37

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Originally Posted by captainKJ (Post 705085)
does it really matter????????


I have just poked a knife in my eyes.

I think americans should spend more time in other countrys. In Cairo my wife was crying when I took her to where I worked. My friends were robbed in the middle of a restuartant at gun point in Maricaibo. Did you know that half the people on this planet have never made a phone call.

rowingdude 10-06-2011 10:19

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Originally Posted by S/V_Surya (Post 705110)
I have just poked a knife in my eyes.

I think americans should spend more time in other countrys. In Cairo my wife was crying when I took her to where I worked. My friends were robbed in the middle of a restuartant at gun point in Maricaibo. Did you know that half the people on this planet have never made a phone call.

I agree with you completely. My first trip out of the country was a solo backpacking trip in Mexico, those two weeks changed my perspective 180 degrees. THe problem is the majority of Americans have a really bad case of "ethnocentrism", or "my country is better than your country" so they feel there's nothing "there" for them.. I mean, I know I was surly ethnocentric, but after I dropped my ass into the middle of no where Mexico and actually tried to learn some customs and traditions to better facilitate my travels, I gained an immense appreciation.

wannago 10-06-2011 11:04

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Originally Posted by S/V_Surya (Post 705110)
I have just poked a knife in my eyes.

I think americans should spend more time in other countrys. In Cairo my wife was crying when I took her to where I worked. My friends were robbed in the middle of a restuartant at gun point in Maricaibo. Did you know that half the people on this planet have never made a phone call.

I wouldn't really disagree with the belief that more Americans should travel. Although I'm not sure how your wife crying at your workplace in Cairo is related, or how getting robbed (is that in Mexico?) factors into that... And, btw, if you are attempting to encourage people to travel more, maybe leave these stories out.

But, as far as St. Thomas is concerned, it seems that this is part of the US Virgin Islands, and thus, isn't actually another country.....

Rubikoop 10-06-2011 11:36

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Originally Posted by zeehag (Post 705105)
publix market is a good reprovisioning place--is near cruise terminal.....


It's actually called Pueblo. You were close though.

s/v 'Faith' 10-06-2011 12:05

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Originally Posted by Rubikoop (Post 705168)
It's actually called Pueblo. You were close though.

Oh yes, and the K-mart... almost makes a stop worth it ... also fun to watch the 'youth' parade their fighting dogs at dusk, and throw the bricks at tourists*. :whistling:



ANYPLACE is good to visit, but I can see the OP's point in that some places are overrated... and in my experience St. Thomas is one of them.



*happened walking back to Charlotte Amalie from the airport... (yes, it was a long walk).

Maybe like Nassau in the Bahamas, St. Thomas can be a necessary stop, but hardly the 'destination' that it is sometimes made out to be.

IMHO.

Lifegoal2sail 10-06-2011 12:46

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I am not a world traveler, but Iíve been to St Kitts Island. It sounds just like this
St. Thomas. While we were there the locals would through rocks at us because our Black Hawks were burning their pot fields. The island itself had more monkeys then humans. A car battery was over 300 bucks. BUT my god it was beautiful! Once you got out of town it was like heaven. The rain forest at the top of the volcano was a site to see. The water, the beaches, if I could have stayed I would have. That was the place I rode on my first sailboat.

As for Americans feeling entitled. Yea, we do. But so do the rest of the world. I wont go into depth here. But we give billions out and get nothing back. We were on St. Kitts to build them a Coast Guard headquarters that they needed so badly. We as in Americans paid for that 2 story building. No one, not even the officials treated us with respect. Well I take that back. The people that lived outside of town were very nice. And so were the people at the resort I stayed at (another story).

Why go to a place like that? Because you can. SOOO many people canít and will never be able to do things like you all do. I know Iím jealous.

rhr1956 10-06-2011 13:18

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I got married there on the beach at Frenchman's Reef. Played in the sand at Magen's Bay. Boarded a Sun Odyssey 54 for a week of honeymoon bliss. I kind of like the place. I don't recall spending much time around soda machines ;-)

Cats Eye 10-06-2011 13:26

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Originally Posted by Rubikoop (Post 705055)
You said it all in the first question of your subject heading. You just don't get it... nothing personal intended.

You ask, "What could be so appealing?" There are many things, but by your own admission you don't get it. You've asked to be enlightened but then follow up stating that you don't want to spend another minute or dime here. It would appear your mind is already made up. That's a very unique position to take when asking for enlightenment. St Thomas, along with the other USVI aren't for everyone. Obviously they aren't for you, which is fine. I've traveled many places around the world and found some I didn't like and would never return to as well.

Since you've been here twice, I'm a little curious by your experiences that brought you to your opinions. Was your first visit so bad that you decided to come back again? Did something unpleasant happen on your second visit? Where you a victim of crime on both of your visits? What happened? Where were you when the crimes occurred? What time was it? How did the police handle it when you contacted them?

Where did you see the iron cage around the pop machine? I've no doubt that you saw it, I just can't think of where that might be.


I agree with Rubikoop. I have lived there almost 10 years. The islands are not for everyone. It is all what you make it. Just like any place.

(P.S Hello Rubikoop!! Miss me? :D )

s/v Breakaway 10-06-2011 13:49

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Two good things about STT:
1. Better stores and prices for boat parts, food, clothing, etc;
2. Sitting waterside with your feet in the sand with a good bottle of red wine, eating a damn fine steak, listening to island music, at Latitude 38 restaurant!

Cats Eye 10-06-2011 14:18

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Originally Posted by s/v Breakaway (Post 705216)
Two good things about STT:
1. Better stores and prices for boat parts, food, clothing, etc;
2. Sitting waterside with your feet in the sand with a good bottle of red wine, eating a damn fine steak, listening to island music, at Latitude 38 restaurant!

Megans Bay
All of Frenchtown
The people
The culture
The food
The 39 holidays a year my husband had off!
The friendly boater community
Crystal clear beautiful water
Just to name a few things!
One of the biggest things I love about STT/STX are all the wonderful friends I have meet that are more like family now. :D

Rubikoop 10-06-2011 14:19

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Originally Posted by Cats Eye (Post 705210)
I agree with Rubikoop. I have lived there almost 10 years. The islands are not for everyone. It is all what you make it. Just like any place.

(P.S Hello Rubikoop!! Miss me? :D )


Yes, you are missed...The Island just isn't the same since you've left. Now it's crime ridden, disgusting and there are bars on all the pop machines. You wouldn't even recognize the place.:banghead:

Cats Eye 10-06-2011 14:28

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LMAO! I knew it would all go down the tubes after Dave left!!! hehehe

courageous cat 10-06-2011 15:25

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I have just one question . DOES THE POP MACHINE WORK OR NOT??:D

osirissail 10-06-2011 15:51

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Every island/country has its good sides and bad sides. How you look at them from your personal attitude makes a significant difference. For each cruiser that hates one particular island/place there are quite a few others who like it or love it. It is all in the attitude you bring to the place.
- - Having been in and visiting the USVI and St Thomas for over 50 years there have been some really bad years, but recently the experiences there have been quite wonderful. Things as changed, significantly in recent years, IMHO.
- - As mentioned by others, you are back "in" the USA and as a US citizen/resident that means the elimination of a whole raft of bothersome customs/immigration hassles. You have access to large and economical shopping in warehouse clubs/stores and even a Home Depot. And Puerto Rico is a day sail away for some serious Walmart's time. So access to supplies and shopping is really great. Especially if you know where to shop. Locals don't shop in the cruise ship tourist areas - they work there - but shop in places elsewhere on the island. When you learn how to do that the place is quite economical.
- - And then there is the opportunity to circle the island for some great anchorages and swimming/snorkeling/diving experiences. Add in the the other USVI's, St Croix and St John and you have a large area to cruise. Plus then there is the Spanish Virgins, etc.
- - So be it St Thomas, St Vincent, St Lucia, St Martin, Grenada or Trinidad you can have some seriously lousy and bad experiences or some really great times depending upon the personal attitude you bring with you.

Mark1977 10-06-2011 16:15

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Originally Posted by captainKJ (Post 705085)
does it really matter????????

she is SEXY!!!!!!!:thumb:

capttman 10-06-2011 16:24

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OK LMAO this thread turned into what it started out as, in my opinion, silly..
There were many places in St Thomas that I did not care for but many places I love and some great cruisers and some not so great, some good locals and some not so good, some good stores and some not so good, wow beginning to sound like every where else I've cruised to.
U are the one visiting be kind and they be kind too, remember u are who u are no matter where u are. Just my thought Hope this isn't considered bad form

zeehag 10-06-2011 16:27

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just one question---why NOT st thomas....

capttman 10-06-2011 16:38

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Zee good question there were good times and not so good times there for me but I made them both..

capngeo 10-06-2011 16:47

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I have a buddy there, and get over from time to time.... My $0.02 is that St Thomas is really two islands separated by MONEY. If you have the cash, it is a great place to live and visit.... If you don't; I'd stay away!

callmecrazy 10-06-2011 16:51

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Originally Posted by capngeo (Post 705271)
I have a buddy there, and get over from time to time.... My $0.02 is that St Thomas is really two islands separated by MONEY. If you have the cash, it is a great place to live and visit.... If you don't; I'd stay away!

I'd say thats true for anywhere in the US.

CSY Man 10-06-2011 17:06

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I liked living in St. Thomas until my boat was broken into and robbed of valuables.:rolleyes:

After that I did not like St. Thomas so much..

scallywag 10-06-2011 17:14

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Why St. Thomas! Why San Juan! Why St. Barts! Why Bermuda! Place any port after the Why. We are cruisers interested in exploring different locations. Friends have had their expensive electronics stolen in St. Augustine. It happens. So does sh t. There are beautiful people all over the world.. There are also beautiful vistas. A glass is either half full or half empty. It all depends on your view.

Dot and John


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