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DoubleWhisky 07-03-2011 06:23

Tips for Greece
 
The season in Med is closer and closer, so I'm starting this thread for exchange of tips for summer cruise in Greece.

For the begenning my first tip:

LEVITHA ISLAND (NISIDA LEVITHA)

Here is the link for GoogleMaps:

Levitha


It is just a tiny piece of rock in the middle of nowhere (really between the Dodecanese and Cyclades - formally belongs to Dodecanese, as part of Leros community, but actually it is closer to Amorgos in Cyclades).

The island is unspoilt place, without water tap or electricity, but it has a fine anchorage, completely protected from Meltemi. Only one family of four or five live there and they run small tavern. Fantastic grilled fish and - if You were lucky - You will find there the best, probably, grilled lobster in Aegean.

Definitely worth a visit :)

DoubleWhisky 08-03-2011 11:06

Second tip
 
Nobody to join?

O.K. - here is my second tip

SAYADA

This is small hamlet in Northern Epirus, just near the Albanian border.
Small harbour can accomodate only boats drawing no more than 6 ft.
Bigger boat can only anchor off.
Only - but good - reason to visit is a tavern offering shrimps and prawns grilled, with a choice of sauces. Fantastic eating - if somebody is fond of frutti di mare :)

wryanddry 08-03-2011 12:36

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Chartered from Athens last year so no exotic islands just the charter milk run but we did really enjoy Epidavros, have some friends that moved there from the UK. Hydra is a classic horse shoe greek bay, very picturesque but didn't want to raft up, the harbour is packed 2 boats deep (med moored) by mid afternoon so get there early, we anchored in Mandraki and took water taxi over to Hydra. Pretty little harbor and town on the north tip of Angistri was also a favorite. Poros was also nice but the wash from the ferry is a pain. Our family joke was to eat at the restaurant "Poseidon" in every town, and yes there is a Poseidon in every town.

Loved Greece and would go back in a heartbeat but would like more time to explore and find the kind of places you describe.

hoppy 08-03-2011 12:53

Re: Tips for Greece
 
No tips as I am new to the area, but for that reason I will keep an eye on this thread :)

boatman61 08-03-2011 13:02

Re: Tips for Greece
 
I can recommend a little town called Platania...
it lies on the mainland just north of Evia and the last anchorage before the crossing to Skiathos...
no water tap or electric but nice food n drink....
oh no cash machines for 30kms either so if you stop have cash...
credit cards not accepted....:D
Marmaris on the SW coast of Evia is really nice as well....:thumb:
Has water on tap at quay and an excellent eatery on the edge of town looking across the bay....
Both the kind of simple places I love...

Jacques2 08-03-2011 13:22

Re: Tips for Greece
 
i agree : LEVITHA ISLAND is a wonderful spot where you can stay a few days waiting for (unforecasts) strong winds to stop ... We did, 3 years ago and then we tried to sail to Amorgos, but it was still to strong and we get back to Levitha !!! In fact, we did not join Amorgos that year...
There are boys and laid moorings for a few boats...
But, but, iI thought I was the only one to know this island :p

DoubleWhisky 10-03-2011 04:13

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But, but, I thought I was the only one to know this island :p

:) It is deservedly popular - but only between "those in know" - mainly pro skippers and liveaboards :)
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DoubleWhisky 10-03-2011 04:18

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Originally Posted by wryanddry (Post 637871)
Hydra is a classic horse shoe greek bay, very picturesque but didn't want to raft up, the harbour is packed 2 boats deep (med moored) by mid afternoon so get there early.

There is narrow winding street, exiting the main square just in the middle of it. Go up. The street is meandering uphill. After may be hundred meters it is small tavern on the left side (few steps up from the street) called Garden Restaurant or something similar. Not very expensive (Hydra is not cheap), but offering really good fish :)

DoubleWhisky 10-03-2011 04:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wryanddry (Post 637871)
Chartered from Athens last year so no exotic islands just the charter milk run. Loved Greece and would go back in a heartbeat but would like more time to explore and find the kind of places you describe.

I personally think Athens are the least interesting base for charter in Greece.

The best starting points - in my personal opinion - are:
Lefkas (Ionian Islands)
Samos (Eastern Aegean Islands - but just off Northern Dodecanese)
Kos (Dodecanese Islands)
Paros (Cyclades)

There is good domestic communication in Greece, and most of mentioned above islands are served by air charters and cheap airlines, so it is not great problem to start Your charter there :)

swagman 10-03-2011 08:44

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleWhisky (Post 639226)
I personally think Athens are the least interesting base for charter in Greece.

The best starting points - in my personal opinion - are:
Lefkas (Ionian Islands)
Samos (Eastern Aegean Islands - but just off Northern Dodecanese)
Kos (Dodecanese Islands)
Paros (Cyclades)

There is good domestic communication in Greece, and most of mentioned above islands are served by air charters and cheap airlines, so it is not great problem to start Your charter there :)

And lets not forget the ubiquitous Greek ferry service..........you can fly into Athens and get anywhere around the islands with ferries leaving continually. And they do not cost and arm or a leg.
JOHN

DoubleWhisky 16-03-2011 11:11

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boatman61 (Post 637890)
I can recommend a little town called Platania...
it lies on the mainland just north of Evia and the last anchorage before the crossing to Skiathos...
no water tap or electric but nice food n drink....
oh no cash machines for 30kms either so if you stop have cash...
credit cards not accepted....:D
Marmaris on the SW coast of Evia is really nice as well....:thumb:
Has water on tap at quay and an excellent eatery on the edge of town looking across the bay....
Both the kind of simple places I love...

Evia is definitely underestimated island. Not sure why...

DoubleWhisky 16-03-2011 11:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yiorgos (Post 627194)
The South part of Crete is less organised but more interesting if the purpose is a less "civilised" itinerary. Starting from the West side, Palaiochora is the first port you can stay during the night with nice night life. Very close to the amazing Elafonisi where you can also anchor but is not so safe during the night (and nothing to eat, drink etc)
Then Loutro has no pier but you can safely anchor almost in any weather. In Loutro there is no connection by car, very pictoresque. Very close is Sfakia, a new small "marina" is built the last couple years, also a nice stay.
Then is Plakias, one mile to the West of the village, a new small port is finished last year.
Agia Galini, is the next place. Even if there is not a lot of free space the port is safe and the locals will help you find a spot and stay during the night. Alternatively is Kokkinos Pirgos 2,5 n.m. to the East. However, a lot of local fishing boats.
Next good shelter but not ideal to spend the night is Kali Limenes. There is no pier and it is a tanker station but if something happens... a food shelter. (the quality of the sea is perfect to swim by the way)
Then is Tsoutsouras, small place, side dock just after the lighthouse in the entrance. As in most of those places, during the winter the sand coming from the sea streams changes dramatically the depth but they drag it out just before the season starts. However, always check.
Same style is Keratokambos & Arvi.
Ierapetra (watch your depth meter) is also a place but rather busy.
The distance from Ierapetra to the South East edge of Crete cannot give you a port-kind place for the night. Atherinolakkos is a shelter, a small port for the night but there is nothing to eat/drink and it's next to the Electricity Plan.
The South part of Crete has a lot of great bays to anchor and enjoy a night stay & of course, swim. However you should always keep your mind to possible reefs (close to the coast), the depth in the bays and the ports and finally, the gusts. You may sail with 10 knots of North wind and suddenly goes to 35-40 knots. As a result, sail during the daytime is safer or during the night avoid the use of the sails. The reason why are the high mountains that exist very close the coastline.
Finally, visit Gavdos island, Chrissi island and Koufonisi island. Amazing waters...
Remember that the West Crete & East Crete have no fishing harbors to stay during the night (exc. of E, Kouremenos but not for your boat) However, according to the weather, they can give you nice places to swim or anchor (esp. E Crete)
During June the prevailing wind is N, NW which means no wave to the S part of the island but definitely some gusty places. In the case of a strong N wind (rather impossible) think of waiting in a good shelter.
The North part of the island is more "civilised" with main city ports but in general, in Crete you won't find the classic marina. From the West side we have Kissamos, safe (maybe a little swell) small port for the night. Before you MUST visit Gramvouse island. Thenis Kolimvari and after that Chania city, amazing old port and great night life. Always enter during daytime due to the numerous reefs in the entrance of the port. Also contact via VHF or phone the port police authorities for a birth at least one day earlier. After is Souda, a small marina without interest but in the physical bay of Souda, there are places to anchor and enjoy the sea like Marathi. Some talk about Georgioupolis but don't try to enter, it's impossible.
Your next station is Rethimno city. There, you'll find a marina with some facilities which is 5 min. walk from the old town, a beautiful place to see. The marina is very safe. Panormos & Bali are two villages before the next main city of Heraklion where you can stay overnight. Panormos more risky while a small pier open to the NE but Bali bay (even gusty) will give you a place for night stay and night life. Then is Heraklion, the biggest city of the island with the less mooring facilities. You'l find space in the pier outside of the Venecian port, the dock is two meters high and there is a swell esp. from the night ferries. However, people will help you and worths visiting the capital of the island. Around 7 n.m. from Heraklion, there is Gouvies marina, a small shelter for the night in a hotel resort place but enter only during the daylight. Panormos & Sissi are nice but very tiny for your boat. Also the depth is close to 1,8 - 2m. Hersonissos fishing harbor very noisy, a lot of fishing mooring lines and reefs to watch. Malia, an abandoned try for a safe small port, from 3m depth goes to 1m and then 3m again, due to the sand. I think that the physical gulf of Agios Nicolaos will be perfect. The small island of Spinalonga and Plakias village, Elounda, Agios Nicolaos marina and the small bays around will give you a nice stay for the day and the night.
More to the East, there is a pier in Pachia Ammos but nothing to see and not so safe if the N wind blows a lot. In Mochlos you'l find a shelter from the prevailing winds behind the small island opposite to the village. Don't try to enter the new fishing harbor, your boat is too wide. Next stop is Sitia, it is a town with a big fishing port, well protected and you'll probably find a spot. Don't get confused with the strange "architecture" of the port. Most of time side docking in the right side of the port. Check for mooring ropes in your propellers.
In General, if you want to combine the visit in some archeological places, museums etc, the North part of the island is ideal. Crete needs a lot of marine infrastructure to become an ideal and safe destination for all sailors. However, now it gives you the feeling of exploration which is great, when you wisely sail.

Wanted to bring here this highly informative post of Yiorgos from another thread. Crete is quite rarely visited by cruisers, even less by charterers.
It is pity, as the island is fabulous and really woth a visit.
Popular excuse is: "It is out of way" what is completely untrue.
You can easily visit Crete even by charterboat.
Charter can be arranged from Paros, Ios or Thira (Santorini). All islands have good communication (Thira directly from most of European countries). Many charter companies should be very happy to arrange one - way charter between each of abovementioned islands and Athens (they normally have a lot of clients wishing for one-way from Athens to Cyclades - it's a matter of coordination). From Ios or Thira there is one night (or one day, but in this stretch of the sea I prefer night sailing - it's easy, no much shipping) sail to Agios Nikolaos. From the marina there You can explore the eastern part of Crete by rented car. Another day of sailing take You to Rethimno or Chania, from where You can explore the west part of the island. Next one night and You are on Milos, well worth a visit place. Sailing from Rethimno or Chania in night just keep west form the main ferry route, going through the strait between Milos and Antimilos and turning to the Irakleio at southwesternmost point of Milos. Approach to Milos should be after dawn. From Milos You can sail towards Your starting point - or towards Athens (if You are chartering one way). If the wind is unfavourable for sailing to the Milos, You can beat towards Leonidhion on Peloponissos. Both cases Hydra and Poros are on Your way to Athens :)

Palarran 16-03-2011 11:59

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Thanks for keeping the thread going 2Xwhiskey. I've decided to go on north side of Crete as I need to provision Palarran for about a month for 10 people. I think it will be cheapest to go to the markets in Heraklion to do this. Unless you think Rhodes will have similar pricing for food.

Your knowledge and enthusiasm is appreciated.

Palarran 16-03-2011 12:01

Re: Tips for Greece
 
I do have a question that you may be able to answer. If I want to get a berth in Rhodes that is in the old harbor, how do I go about reserving it and how long in advance do you think I will have to book it? I understand they are very difficult to get.

DoubleWhisky 16-03-2011 12:30

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Palarran (Post 644605)
Thanks for keeping the thread going 2Xwhiskey. I've decided to go on north side of Crete as I need to provision Palarran for about a month for 10 people. I think it will be cheapest to go to the markets in Heraklion to do this. Unless you think Rhodes will have similar pricing for food.

Your knowledge and enthusiasm is appreciated.

I think for provisioning the Rethimno will be not more pricey - or at least not much. The place is much nicer than Heraklion (Irakleio), and both have supermarkets at the outskirts. Some things (vegetables, fruits, eggs) can be obtained cheaper at local markets - make a query :)
Rhodes can be a little more expensive, but I'm not so sure, I didn't been there last year. Anyway - mainland is cheaper han the islands. If Peloponese is on Your way, may be a stop at Kalamata will save You a little.

DoubleWhisky 16-03-2011 12:33

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Palarran (Post 644608)
I do have a question that you may be able to answer. If I want to get a berth in Rhodes that is in the old harbor, how do I go about reserving it and how long in advance do you think I will have to book it? I understand they are very difficult to get.

Mail for marina administration is: info@roditisyachting.gr
Phone number:
(+30) 22410 37101
Fax number:
(+30) 22410 37401

The Mandraki so called "Marina" is heavily overloaded, so better to contact them as soon as possible and ask how and when to make proper arrangements.

Best regards

Tomasz

DoubleWhisky 17-03-2011 07:15

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Looks that this thread is almost my personal "one man stand" :)
Pity a little - I'm sure there are members here with a deep knowledge to be shared...

But for the moment O.K. :)

In southern part of Dodecanese You will find an intersting island:

Nisiros

It is really worth a visit. The main village - Mandraki - is a beautiful place with old castle, monasteries, winding streets, bouganvilleas...
But the harbour at Mandraki is pain in the ass really. Small and open to prevailing winds and waves. A lot of ferry wash also.
Much better place to be there is Paloi (Palon) in the middle of the northern shore. The Google Maps show all ferry routes coming here - it is untrue. The are going to Mandraki actually.
Please note: most charts (paper and electornic) and also most pilot books show the entrance to the Paloi harbour in the north east corner of the harbour, and the approach from north. It is not true any longer!
Some time ago the harbour was rebuilt and upgraded. The old entrance was closed, the outer breakwater lenghtened much to east, and new entrance was built from east, under the cover of prolonged outer breakwater. The approach is now as follows: go from north towards the group of conspicious huge stone buildings just at the beach, east from harbour (it is never finished Hydropatic Institute). Being in line with outer breakwater, turn hardly to west and You are in front of the entrance. It is not very good visible, but entrance is not tricky. When approaching Paloi from west, remember - do not go closer then some hundred meters to the north (outer) side of main breakwater. There are remnants of old eastern breakwater covered by sea now.
The best sheltered berths (Med mooring only!) are in the southeastern corner of the harbour. Depths are O.K. for the 3 meters draft. Multis should moor rather as far as possible to the west, where the depths are depleting.
Paloi harbour offers good fresh water and electricity for 10 Euros a day (2010). You can hire a car or scooters there (go to the western corner of harbour) and visit Mandraki, but the main attraction is the big volcano. In the matter of fact the whole island is a volcano with a caldera in the middle. The volcano is still working a little (hot sulphur and hot water coming from under), but it is stable and You can go down to caldera. Take a small hammer and robust screwdriver with You - taking some crystal volcanic sulphur with You is allowed :)
Two small villages on the verge of caldera - Emporeios and Nikia offer fantastic views. Nikia itself is a gem, and in Emporeios You can find decent meal. Island is really nice - little off the beaten tourist tracks, retains much of old charm ;)

DoubleWhisky 17-03-2011 07:28

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Palarran (Post 644605)
I need to provision Palarran for about a month for 10 people. I think it will be cheapest to go to the markets to do this.

My Admiral invented the following scheme for provisioning in Greece:
  1. Look for LIDL supermarket. Check the offer. Generally they are the cheapest, but the offer is very limited. Buy here what really suit Your needs.
  2. For eggs, vegetables and fruits check a local open air market.
  3. Look for AB (ask for AlphaVita), Dia, or Atlantic supermarket. They are slightly more expensive, but the choice is generally better. Supplement Your shopping there.
  4. Look for Bazaar supermarket. It is normally still little more expensive, but with best choice. Top Your shopping there.
Remember - this is only very general advice. In some places Dia or Atlantic can have better choice than a Bazaar, for example - you can check it in the beginning of the shopping :D

DoubleWhisky 17-03-2011 07:50

A Greek tip for Hoppy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hoppy (Post 637887)
No tips as I am new to the area, but for that reason I will keep an eye on this thread

Please, remember one thing - never ever fill Your water tanks from a tanker cars. On Patmos (beautiul and very interesting island) the water is only car delivered - there are no taps at the quay at all. In Lakki (Leros) tap water is salty and rather unpotable, but there is car delivery.
Problem with car delivered water - the supplies of the water come from mountain creeks. It is good water, but You will pump to Your tanks lots of very fine creek sand. Enough to clog up Your filters, pumps, taps and toilets (if You do have freshwater toilets on the boat).
Only solutions are to fit a watermaker or to plan Your water usage accordingly to not fill Your tanks from tanker cars.
I made this mistake once and spend some days cleaning the whole blocked water system - vacuum toilets included (all seals in vacuums were damaged and I needed to replace them).

Best regards

Tomasz

goboatingnow 17-03-2011 14:13

Do what many do rig a pump and a filter and pump it through that.

Dave

hoppy 17-03-2011 14:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by goboatingnow
Do what many do rig a pump and a filter and pump it through that.

Dave

How do you mean? Fill up a temporary container with water from the truck and then pump the water into the tanks via a filter?

goboatingnow 17-03-2011 14:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoppy

How do you mean? Fill up a temporary container with water from the truck and then pump the water into the tanks via a filter?

Yes exactly that use a cheap jabsco pump and a standard 10" filter set. Also useful plumbed in the pressure feeds in marinas

Dave

hoppy 17-03-2011 14:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by goboatingnow
Yes exactly that use a cheap jabsco pump and a standard 10" set of water filters

Dave

Sounds a lot easier and more doable than a water maker for this year.

DoubleWhisky 18-03-2011 06:18

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Hello :)
Dave - You are right of course, but with tanker delivered water on the islands there are some problems.
For using in marinas I have an added section of water hose with water filters installed in it. I can use it any place I have doubts regarding tap water - just opening the tap partly and waiting for the water coming into tanks slowly.
But with tanker delivered water it is another story. They use high capacity petrol engine pumps and the heavy hoses with pistol fitting similar to one used for fuel. You can not connect the hose to this and make a water going slowly - the pressuree is high really, and pumps don't have adjusements. So You need to fill water into temporary tank and then pump it to the proper water tanks. My daily usage is about 200 - 250 liters. By average I'm taking some 600 liters for once. Let say I will use two 50 liters jeerycans as temporary tanks. The tankers pump will fill them in minutes, and transferring the water into proper tanks by small pumps with filters will take substantially more time. To do this five or six times will take a lot more time, than any car tanker will allot to You. They are almost always in a hurry more or less. So the technique is O.K. for taking 100 or maybe 200 liters at one time, probably not more :)
Another thing is, the creek sand is partly powderlike (something as damned reddish Sahara sand... You know it...). It partly pass through the pumps and filters - not nice at all.
The technique described by You would work beautifully if You have a taemporary tank or tanks big enough to accept Your average one time supply. Then You can take enough water from car tanker, wait for residue setting down and pump it slowly - through fine filters - to the proper tanks. I must think about some kind of folding temporary tanks - use them, fold and stow neatly :)
As I agree that water maker for island hopping is just an overkill, for te moment I just plan my passages accordingly. For example - I always try to get to Patmos with tanks newly filled, remembering that just two hours away - at charming island of Lipsi - is the tap water of quite acceptable quality :)

hoppy 18-03-2011 10:26

Re: Tips for Greece
 
The hose filter sound's like a good idea. :)

Even if the tanker water was clean, it sound's like my boat would struggle to take the water. My tank filler pipes are very fussy about the water flow, too much and they back up.

goboatingnow 20-03-2011 03:18

That rate would be completely impossible in my boat , I have used my idea with a 40 litre can as the intermediate tank , worked ok .

Dave

DoubleWhisky 20-03-2011 03:53

Re: Tips for Greece
 
The idea of intermediate tank is very nice however :)
I must have a closer look at VETUS flexible tanks. I'm not sure if it is possible to fold them and stow away when empty... If so - the spring water is the best available in Greece. Only this sand is a problem...

DoubleWhisky 21-03-2011 08:54

Next tip - Lipsi Island
 
Between Samos, Patmos and Leros there is a group of interesting small islands.
My favourite one is Lipsi.
The harbour itself is quite small and crowded, also sometime quite windy, but there are some nice anchorages also. The best one is probably Katsadia Bay in the south part of island. You will find some mooring buoys laid by local tavern, but if they are all taken, You can anchor out - the holding is good.
Best eating You will find in small taverns uphill in main village, behind the big church. Nothing special - just good home-made local meal.
At the main square, behind the small "garden", is good bakery/patisserie located. A lot of nice places around for day anchoring and sunbathing/swimming/snorkeling.
One of the really nice, low profile, off the beaten track places :flowers:

hoppy 21-03-2011 14:34

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Tomasz,

Do you go into Pithagorion to get your traffic document stamped at the start and end of each sailing holiday from the marina?

I assume that at small places like Lipsi you don't need to present your traffic document or is there a man with a stamp everywhere over summer?

DoubleWhisky 22-03-2011 05:14

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Hi Hoppy :)
I'm normally taking my documents to Port Police only once, when I'm starting the season. If I'm leaving Greece for some time, I'm stamping the documents again. I have always with me some forms of "Crew List". If somebody is coming - I'm stamping the new crew list, for duration of the visit, at the nearest Port Police.

They really want You to have on board:
  1. proper registration document
  2. proper insurance document
  3. documents for communication and safety equipment checking
  4. actual crew list
I'm always keeping the crew list up to date, because there is a lot of people smuggling through Dodecanese, so the police have a good reason to keep an eye on this. Normally we are just two of us on board (+ dogs), but sometime friends are coming for some days, and You should have them on the crew list. I have also some copies of the main crew list made and stamped as "conforming to the original" or something like this - just for a peace of mind. I met not very enlightened policemen trying to keep an original with them. Now - in the case - I'm feeding them with "authorized" copy :D Better than discuss half a day waiting for somebody more reasonable to come to the station.
And in small places nobody bothers You. May be except Patmos, but this, being a small island is not a "small place" anyway. :)

DoubleWhisky 22-03-2011 08:07

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Tip for today :)

Just near the Lipsi Island lies even smaller Arkoi Island .
You can find its name spelled Arkhi or Arki also.
As often in greece GoogleMaps wrongly indicates the placement of island's harbour. The proper location is here .
The island is populated mainly by goats and sheeps. Only very few people live there. Very primitive and unspoilt place.
Some Arkoi Island Photos You can find in the album.
But it has wonderful places to anchor for sunbathing, swimming and snorkeling. The harbour is very small but perfectly sheltered and there are quite decent if very simple taverns.
From time to time the evenings with regional music and dances are arranged and even being a show for tourists, they are much more real, than in other, more "on the track" places. To join such an evening You can contact one of local taverns:
+30 2247032477; +30 6972923367; nico_kavouras@yahoo.com
If You are sailing in bigger group, they surely will arrange such an evening just for You for really modest price, reserving the berths in the harbour, so it is not bad place to arrange a meeting with other frienly boats :flowers:

DoubleWhisky 22-03-2011 09:33

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Sorry, but it looks something is wrong with the link for Arkoi Island in my previous post. Hope this will be a proper link

Capitain Mike 23-03-2011 14:57

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleWhisky (Post 636491)
The season in Med is closer and closer, so I'm starting this thread for exchange of tips for summer cruise in Greece.

For the begenning my first tip:

LEVITHA ISLAND (NISIDA LEVITHA)

Here is the link for GoogleMaps:

Levitha


It is just a tiny piece of rock in the middle of nowhere (really between the Dodecanese and Cyclades - formally belongs to Dodecanese, as part of Leros community, but actually it is closer to Amorgos in Cyclades).

The island is unspoilt place, without water tap or electricity, but it has a fine anchorage, completely protected from Meltemi. Only one family of four or five live there and they run small tavern. Fantastic grilled fish and - if You were lucky - You will find there the best, probably, grilled lobster in Aegean.

Definitely worth a visit :)

You are correct but stay away from kinaros all the bays are in the south and if there is a south wind you are dead

Capitain Mike 23-03-2011 15:02

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Its the only safe harbour between Amorgos and Leros/Kalymnos. I live on Amorgos :)

Capitain Mike 23-03-2011 15:08

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleWhisky (Post 639226)
I personally think Athens are the least interesting base for charter in Greece.

The best starting points - in my personal opinion - are:
Lefkas (Ionian Islands)
Samos (Eastern Aegean Islands - but just off Northern Dodecanese)
Kos (Dodecanese Islands)
Paros (Cyclades)

There is good domestic communication in Greece, and most of mentioned above islands are served by air charters and cheap airlines, so it is not great problem to start Your charter there :)

Lekas is good tou can spend a couple of weeks or more in the area Preveza Corfu Ithica Kefalonia etc without sailing to the same place twice. Last year we sailed from Levkas Lefkada to Amorgos where we are now. but thats another story.

Capitain Mike 23-03-2011 15:19

Re: A Greek tip for Hoppy
 
Hmm never had that problem but most boats have tanks that will last at least 2 days. be more economical save the planet. seawater in the toilet use a bucket. seawater to shower then fresh to rinse off saltwater for washing up then rinse off (BUT NOT IN THE HARBOUR)mY WIFE WON'T DRINK THE WATER FROM THE TANKS EVEN THOUGH IT IS FRESH FROM THE ONSHORE CLEAN WATER SUPPLY) So she has the bottled and I have the tank. No bad stomachs so far

DoubleWhisky 23-03-2011 15:20

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capitain Mike (Post 650803)
You are correct but stay away from kinaros all the bays are in the south and if there is a south wind you are dead

Good point. Kinaros Island can be really dangerous in any wind with southern component. It is better to be avoided at all.

Capitain Mike 23-03-2011 16:22

Re: Tips for Greece
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boatman61 (Post 637890)
I can recommend a little town called Platania...
it lies on the mainland just north of Evia and the last anchorage before the crossing to Skiathos...
no water tap or electric but nice food n drink....
oh no cash machines for 30kms either so if you stop have cash...
credit cards not accepted....:D
Marmaris on the SW coast of Evia is really nice as well....:thumb:
Has water on tap at quay and an excellent eatery on the edge of town looking across the bay....
Both the kind of simple places I love...

Same as Loutra re ATMs

DoubleWhisky 25-03-2011 06:04

Re: Tips for Greece
 
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Originally Posted by Capitain Mike (Post 650860)
Same as Loutra re ATMs

You mean Loutra on Kithnos Island, I believe?
There are some eight or nine different Loutras along Greek shores... :)

Jacques2 25-03-2011 14:02

Re: Tips for Greece
 
To Palaran...
"I do have a question that you may be able to answer. If I want to get a berth in Rhodes that is in the old harbor, how do I go about reserving it and how long in advance do you think I will have to book it? I understand they are very difficult to get."
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We tried to get a berth in Rodos' old harbour 2 years ago and it was really impossible. It was the late evening and we had to go to the ""future"" ""new"" ""marina"" (south) which has been under construction for years... Not the slightest service or pontoon, only 2 quays ...We were there with only 2 other boats... With our anchor and a line ashore fixed on a ... I don't remember what but nothing traditional in a marina...

And we stayed onboard all the night waiting for the morning in order to leave Rodos !!!
I have heard on another forum (STW) that the marina will open next June... Any news about that ?


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