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Blue Stocking 22-11-2010 18:09

Am I alone in seeing the irony of this thread. Its singular purpose was a suggestion to eliminate symbols which create divisive and argumentative content, and it has failed miserably to do that. Was that clear enough without some little cartoon?

I must say though, when I read Gord's earlier comment suggesting that I go someplace else if I don't play by his rules, the hair stood up on the back of my neck. Somebody that owns this forum must benefit from my being here, because I now receive ads from vendors here at home, who I personally don't patronize. So is my presence here being marketed.?

ReMetau 22-11-2010 18:24

OMG so many posts :banghead:. LMAO https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...es/biggrin.gif. LOL. :deadhorsebeat:

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

zopi 22-11-2010 18:33

ZOMGROTFLMAOBUBBLEGUM!

Mambo 22-11-2010 18:33

Wait -- do you think Gord started the SSB / Sat Phone thread????

Mambo 22-11-2010 18:37

Seriously, I think emoticons play one useful role: expressing when someone is being lighthearted / ironic / sarcastic when, if you simply read their words, you might miss this essential fact because it would take too long or be too unweildy to express it. Beyond that, I think they are pretty juvenille.

delmarrey 22-11-2010 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Therapy (Post 564397)
I think we need a lot more.


/jester.gif

https://forums.floridasportsman.com/s...ley/jester.gif

Florida Sportsman Forums | The most popular fishing forum on the internet

This site has lots and they are great (for the most part).

That whole huge area of ones to choose from for a post reply is wasted space. Replace it with a slew of emoticons.

They also save writing a thousand words that I cannot articulate well enough to not be understood the way I meant it.

https://forums.floridasportsman.com/s...ley/emthup.gif

https://forums.floridasportsman.com/s...iley/sleep.gif

Ditto!
Emoticons have been around since the beginning of time in one form or another. The Asians/Egyptians have used some sort of picture writing long before the smilie face. Evolution of Picture Writing Early Writing Development


As well, if one were talking face to face with someone, they rely on facial expressions. Close your eyes and ask someone a personal question, and it is unlikely you'll get a true response or their feelings.
Emoticons are not much different then Pictograms or Ideograms! Internationally we use them on a daily basis. Just a better way to communicate....................._/) ;)

delmarrey 22-11-2010 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Lucas (Post 564400)
Symbols or words...............it's all how they are used. If symbols are banned..................are words far behind!

e.g Censorship

hummingway 22-11-2010 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by delmarrey (Post 564561)
e.g Censorship

There will be no Censorship around here! Any attempt to even use the word Censorship will be promptly Censorsed.

Thank you. Carry on.

Chief Engineer 22-11-2010 18:49

https://www.emofaces.com/en/emoticons...d-emoticon.gif orhttps://www.emofaces.com/en/emoticons...n-animated.gif
This is Bill O'Reilly's Favourite

kismet 22-11-2010 18:55

Ho Hum...

kismet 22-11-2010 18:56

Where is the steaming pile emoticon?

Tellie 22-11-2010 18:56

I agree with Gord. Why I think we should also have X-ray body scans and pat downs before we come on board CF.
Come on Gord. I love ya man, but sometimes even your friends have to put their arm around you and say "lighten up a bit bro, it ain't that important"

delmarrey 22-11-2010 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Engineer (Post 564521)
This is turning into another anchorgunmonomultigasordiesel thread.

On of the 4 agreements......Don't take anything personally.

I would rather see emoticons than some obscure Acronym

Are you talking about me? :mad: :D

TaoJones 22-11-2010 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Stocking (Post 564535)
I must say though, when I read Gord's earlier comment suggesting that I go someplace else if I don't play by his rules, the hair stood up on the back of my neck. Somebody that owns this forum must benefit from my being here, because I now receive ads from vendors here at home, who I personally don't patronize. So is my presence here being marketed.?

You're onto us, Blue Stocking . . . Cruisers Forum was created with the sole intention of getting business interests on Bermuda to use Google AdSense to place their unheeded ads on your computer screen. I don't think you fully appreciate how difficult that was to engineer. ;)

It's like Kurt Vonnegut's Sirens of Titan, in which all of human history is a mere manipulation leading to a single purpose - to deliver a replacement part for a spacecraft stranded in our solar system. (I love Vonnegut.) See: The Sirens of Titan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

TaoJones

Chief Engineer 22-11-2010 19:06

Not really
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by delmarrey (Post 564574)
Are you talking about me? :mad: :D

I was surprised when I did a search for TIOFUR and nothing came up.

It made me chuckle.....

speakeasy 22-11-2010 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bash (Post 564488)
I'm suddenly eager for my students to return from Thanksgiving break; I think I'm going to assign this thread next week. I'm teaching a rhetoric class this quarter, and we've been getting into Reader Response Theory the past two weeks. In essence, and here I over-simplify, RRT posits that a text takes its meaning from the act of being read, not from authorial intent. What I write is insignificant in terms of how you choose to read something I've written. Compare the different readings I've been given by hummingway, boatman61 and, ultimately, IdoraKeeper.

The significance of emoticons is that they signal intent in a medium that often ambiguous in terms of a text's exigence--the question of why the writer picked up the pen. Was I joking when I wrote that first post, or was I serious? We don't really know. All we know for certain is that the lack of emoticons (or other signifyers such as "lol") made the text more difficult to interpret.

I am convinced that it's healthy to chat about how we chat, and even to argue about how we argue. We are not only constrained by the medium in which we conduct our forum, but also by the rules under which we agree to play.

That said, hummingway's interpretation that I'm arguing "that very few abuse the emoticons" is certainly....

:p:p:p

SimonV 22-11-2010 20:23

WTF..I read the whole thing..:rolleyes: Will it end :popcorn:

Khagan1227 22-11-2010 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by GordMay (Post 564229)
I think that all of the smart-ass & insulting emoticons* should be removed from the forum. They all convey ideas & attitudes that we wouldn’t permit if overtly expressed in words.

*Ie: :whistling: :rolleyes: :banghead: :popcorn: :deadhorsebeat:

Personally, I use emoticons to express some humanity that is otherwise lacking in the internet world in general and CF in particular. It might just be me, but sometimes I can't tell the intent a poster uses in their messages, but a smiley face sure makes the difference for me.

I don't believe I have personally used them as a tool to attack a CF users and if someone believes I have, you have my sincere apology. I have seen at least one person use the popcorn smilely to inject a little humor into an otherwise heated debate. I try to use them to poke fun at myself, not other users.

While I respectfully disagree with Gord, he is a moderator and I'll follow whatever rules that exist for the forum.

Keith

Peace

thinwater 22-11-2010 20:56

I assumed the OP was a troll to boost the click count. Simplest explanation.

delmarrey 22-11-2010 21:07

NOT!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thinwater (Post 564635)
I assumed the OP was a troll to boost the click count. Simplest explanation.

Gord is one of the most respected members that has been on the CF forum since it's first days, as well as being and original Moderator/Admin. He's set me right on many occasions but I do disagree with him on this one!

Noname1 22-11-2010 21:19

delmarrey post 85 has is right.
Most human communication is non-verbal. emoticons help fill in what is missing from purely textual communication.

Was my use of an emoticon here was abusive? If so to whom?

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaeldsusa (Post 564484)
I'm glad for you that you have decided just to go ahead and do it.
I won an 11 hr tow from the USCG in El Caribe due to my hopeful (wishful?) thinking the chainplates had just another 100 miles in them. I mean it was only 100 mile island hop. What could possibly go wrong?:whistling:
I will never have SS chainplates or anything else SS I can avoid on my next boat. Everdur or titanium from now on.

I think with no additional word count I acknowledge to the brethren I was a fool and ask I be berated no further.

Now if someone finds it nessessary to point out quoting oneself is considered bad form I simply say :whistling:

Johnathon123 22-11-2010 22:56

:popcorn:

markpierce 22-11-2010 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeehag (Post 564457)
but is same word twice-- i think he gets one more chance......:whistling:

Perhaps it is all a matter of not limiting ourselves to the approved emoticons. Nevertheless, I find some of the "approved" emoticons to be offensive such as posted on top, but you won't see me object.

aegean adrift 23-11-2010 00:11

awww, I missed the meta-communication party!

It would be nice to have a wider array of emoticons, but I'm not sure it's possible or desirable to enforce fundamentalist Non-Violent Communication anywhere.

Someone used the head-smashing-into wall emoticon in response to one of my first posts here, but that said a lot about them and nothing about me. If that's how he felt at the moment, it was his choice to express those sentiments.

Perhaps an etiquette-hell-style sub-forum, with Gord as moderator, about communication and good taste? I'd be the first to frequent it.

Wand 23-11-2010 00:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joli (Post 563662)
Trim, they make bilge alarms. :banghead:

Just for the record, the above quote (it seems) is the post which motivated Gord's OP for this thread. The post raised Trim50's ire and it got a bit testy. FWIW, my view is that the Joli post was offensive and the reaction understandable (although it'd be wiser to have ignored it). The headbanger emoticom should be reserved as a comment on one's own behaviour or actions.

But that aside, I think it is the moderator's (editor's) role to foresee the problem with the original Joli post and delete it. :devil: And having said that, I know Gord just how easy it is for these things to slip through. :flowers:

cliffdykes 23-11-2010 03:20

I find it amazing that this has generated 7 pages of comment in 12 hours.
Some people obviously have too much free time on their hands :D

Cheers
Cliff

aegean adrift 23-11-2010 03:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffdykes (Post 564695)
Some people obviously have too much free time on their hands :D

That's an invalidating statement, and posting a big grin doesn't make it any more conducive to civil exchange.

cliffdykes 23-11-2010 03:59

This is a sailing forum, not a semantics forum.

Cheers
Cliff

Caribsailors 23-11-2010 04:23

What's the temperature in Thunder Bay now?
 
Gord...Look south....take some time....... go cruising

sailorboy1 23-11-2010 04:25

so this guy sails into the harbor and :p (all happy after another safe passage)

a fun thread read, specially the posts where people post that others must have too much time on their hands to have posted on the thread

DoubleWhisky 23-11-2010 04:37

Banning the expression of thoughts and emotions is a censorship - nothing more.
I lived 35 years of my life in the country censoring everything - even the reading on the pack of matches was censored...
I hope You will never have such an experience in Your life, Gord.

David_Old_Jersey 23-11-2010 04:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Lucas (Post 564713)
a fun thread read, specially the posts where people post that others must have too much time on their hands to have posted on the thread

Methinks we need an Irony Smiley.

To cover that particular cross-cultural bridge that ends in a place north of Mexico. and south of Canada - no names :whistling:. The nearest I can find is.......... :rolleyes:



(Irony because it's written. Verbally it would be called taking the p#ss, including of self :thumb:)

Fortytwo 23-11-2010 05:03

C.L.O.D.
 
Go get a boat.

GordMay 23-11-2010 05:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fortytwo (Post 564728)
Go get a boat.

Would that I could.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tellie (Post 564571)
... sometimes even your friends have to put their arm around you and say "lighten up a bit bro, it ain't that important"

Indeed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khagan1227 (Post 564631)
... While I respectfully disagree with Gord, he is a moderator and I'll follow whatever rules that exist for the forum.
Keith
Peace

It should be noted that I (Gord) am & have not been a Moderator for some considerable time.

High Heels 23-11-2010 05:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by At sea (Post 564681)
Just for the record, the above quote (it seems) is the post which motivated Gord's OP for this thread. The post raised Trim50's ire and it got a bit testy. FWIW, my view is that the Joli post was offensive and the reaction understandable (although it'd be wiser to have ignored it). The headbanger emoticom should be reserved as a comment on one's own behaviour or actions.

I completely see where GordMay is coming from. I kind of think of Gord as a Demi-God of Cruisers Forum. He has contributed for a long time, and his posts are always informative, pertinent, accurate, helpful, and productive. So I think if he says the Emoticons go, then they should perish.

*I would miss those little buggers, though*

I think that the thread that the head banging :banghead: post appeared on that 'sea' is referring to, and which possibly prompted Gord's reaction, is one of a serious, and grave nature...and in light of the spirit of that thread the use of :banghead: in that way seems to somehow bring inappropriate brevity to that which cannot be summed up in a nutshell...

Couldn't let the thread die yet...and of course had to display the strong possibility of the use of run-on sentences if, in fact, the emoticons were banished :D

Burls 23-11-2010 05:28

If I can't use these emoticons, then I'll just have to type more words in order to say the same thing the emoticons were saying anyway......... :whistling:

RiverRat 23-11-2010 06:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by hummingway (Post 564260)
I certainly agree with the spirit of your comment Gord but personally I find most of these useful in a different context. For instance the whistle can imply sly humour or an oops moment. I think they are examples of emoticons that are useful for self deprecation but unfortunate when used as an insult.

Agreed. I find them useful, but can certainly see where they could be mis-used.

Keep them. If someone wants to be rude, they'll find a way to be rude.

s/v Beth 23-11-2010 12:11

I love our CLOD. If he needs a boat, he can borrow my little one as long as he maintains it. But it is ice up there right now...if fact it is ice down here too, which may explain why I just read this thread from top to bottom :)

CharlieCobra 23-11-2010 13:50

The only time emoticons bug me is when someone uses the wrong one in the initial post of a thread, like the thumbs down when they are asking a simple question and not ranting or the rolleyes when posting about something cool. Some folks have no clue what the emoticons even mean... Regardless, I think they should stay, even if I rarely use them. They work real well in indicating sarcasm and preventing fights for the simple reason, ya can't read what someone is REALLY saying up here. No body language to read or smirk/smile to see.

Bash 23-11-2010 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by s/v Beth (Post 564884)
I love our CLOD.

Amen. People have clicked his thank you button more times than any of the next ten of us.


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