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EyeOnAlaska 02-07-2021 21:06

Re: Swimming in the French canals????
 
We've done the rental from Scey-Sur-Saône to Vesoul, and will hopefully do another rental next spring. I wouldn't touch the water in the canals if I could avoid it. The first time you see the cows cooling off in the water you'll understand why, that and no holding tanks.

Lemsteraak 02-07-2021 21:36

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Nichols used to have these cute little "pods" that would attach to the stern of rental boats that were small swimming pools. Not big enough to swim but a nice place to cool off. Very cute and a good idea for some of the really small tourist canals.

I used to swim in the upper reaches of French rivers. Canals? no, there were streams or rivers nearby that were much more pleasant. I'll second the suggestion of swimming pools in some of the larger towns. They really put a lot of effort to make these attractive.

FilledeJoie 05-07-2021 06:47

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We spent a week on the River Lot in July 2019, it was great. The water was very clean. There were a couple of pump out stations along the way. We chartered with LeBoat, and highly recommend them.

sailorF54 05-07-2021 06:50

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There is a daily bulletin on water quality of the Lot river with a chartlet

https://syded-lot.fr/lot-5-juillet-2021
e.g. All blue (good quality) everywhere except red (avoid) around Cahors (main city)

Tom and Maje 05-07-2021 06:52

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Ask the boat company.

Maje

skipmac 05-07-2021 07:00

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Originally Posted by FilledeJoie (Post 3439004)
We spent a week on the River Lot in July 2019, it was great. The water was very clean. There were a couple of pump out stations along the way. We chartered with LeBoat, and highly recommend them.

Very happy to hear that there are pump out stations on the Lot. From what others have said about boating on EU canals they are not common.

Overall le Boat has been a positive experience but with one exception. We had originally booked this for 2020 but obviously that was canceled due to the pandemic. All the companies we had dealt with for the trip: Delta Airlilnes, AirBnB, hotels and car rentals gave us refunds without a problem. The only exception was le Boat where they would only give us a credit for a future trip AND required that we take the trip within 12 months of the original booking or lose the deposit which was a few thousand dollars. That did not make me happy.

gonesail 05-07-2021 07:01

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Originally Posted by skipmac (Post 3436307)
hikers in the US used to advocate drinking from clear mountain streams but that clear mountain stream can be polluted with all sorts of nasty bacteria.


all inland streams in the US require filters or boiling before drinking .. due to the giardia parasite.

Colin Stone 05-07-2021 07:17

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I swim in French canals and rivers regularly. Canals have to be clear, often the summit pound, and rivers flowing. Although I didn't go into the Somme for a while after a very long snake swam past! I go in from a boarding ladder and keep head dry.
And when cycling on a very hot day, we'll jump into or lie in a cool stream.
Certainly locks etc have no swimming, but from the canal and river banks, I've not seen many restrictions.

boat driver 05-07-2021 07:20

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Originally Posted by seandepagnier (Post 3435628)
I swam in the great dismal swamp canal and I consider it clean enough. I was the only boat there for the entire week I spent there.

you swam in the great dismal swamp? it is not dirty but the gators and other life might have worked you over. damn snakes alone are worth staying out of the water.

Juggerknot 05-07-2021 07:37

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Originally Posted by skipmac (Post 3435639)
Seems like the experience of all just confirms what I already assumed. Don't go in the water. I was just hoping to learn my assumptions were wrong but apparently not.

Too bad as some of the photos of the River Lot look quite lovely and I do enjoy a good swim.

A quick search of the interweb turned up this: Lot, Célé and Aveyron Wild Swimming - outdoors in rivers, lakes and the sea

https://www.tourism-occitanie.co.uk/...kes-and-rivers

Here it claims over 20 natural pools and swimming spots so indeed it appears to be a destination of bathers, enjoy and safe travels...

Kalinka1 05-07-2021 07:39

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Le Boat. has boats in Ontario on the Rideau Canal which is a collection of lakes rivers and canal sections. Can swim anywhere. could you change your reservation?

ameehan 05-07-2021 09:44

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Would not advise swimming in French canals, besides all the obvious reasons there are lots of dead animals, large and small, floating in water..
AM

goboatingnow 05-07-2021 09:48

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Originally Posted by ameehan (Post 3439144)
Would not advise swimming in French canals, besides all the obvious reasons there are lots of dead animals, large and small, floating in water..

AM



Just to be clear the River Lot is just that a river. It’s not a canal even though parts of it are canalised, many French rivers have swimming places and what not.

Many French canals are actually very clean , the MIDI being an exception especially in the summer.

Least you get the wrong impression there are not “ lots “ of dead animals in French canals. No more then any canal.

Travelling by French canal and or French rivers is an enchanting experience , wonderful villages , nice people ( always have your “ bonjours “ ready ) and of course the best food on the planet. What’s not to like.

PiAn 05-07-2021 09:51

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Can you sail up to Capdenac ? Very nice if you can.
But no, swimming in Canal du Midi is not recommended - for example rowing club would oblige a full shower if you do. You have several risks, and maybe some of them also in the Lot :
- Rats and Leptospirose
- Cities sewage plants
- Agricultural products
So the **** of the other boats, to be crude, is not the key point !
Nevertheless you'll see some people swimming, of course...

But you can swim in Etang de Thau - and the sea close to it - some small nearby rivers.

Kinpa_1951 05-07-2021 10:30

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Hrre is the link to the tourist Association of River Lot, which has many nice spots where swimming is Safe. It should also be available in english. Enjoy your holiday.


https://www.tourisme-lot.com/les-inc...-eau-naturelle

Andrew__Lewis 05-07-2021 10:39

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We've done a couple of barging trips, one on the Canal du Midi and on in the Loire Valley.

My understanding is that swimming is not allowed.

As you mentioned, no holding tanks, no pump out stations, so there's a lot of stuff in the rivers. Hence them asking you not to use the heads while in the locks

Richbayle 05-07-2021 11:02

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Nooooo
No swimming in the French canals..

The canals are filthy, the countryside beautiful, definitely no swimming unless you want wiles disease

goboatingnow 05-07-2021 11:13

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Originally Posted by Richbayle (Post 3439203)
Nooooo

No swimming in the French canals..



The canals are filthy, the countryside beautiful, definitely no swimming unless you want wiles disease



Good god the poor OP asked about the river lot

belizesailor 05-07-2021 12:30

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Originally Posted by Hesti (Post 3435644)
Do as the locals do. If they swim - it should be okish, if they don't, don't.

Ive seen locals swimming in many places I would not even consider. Not in France, but many other places.

Juggerknot 05-07-2021 13:40

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Originally Posted by belizesailor (Post 3439260)
Ive seen locals swimming in many places I would not even consider. Not in France, but many other places.

Hahaha, yeah. A local kid fell in near the water taxis in Altamira and got the flesh eating bacteria, killed him. I'd run across crocs lined up before I go in that water!

belizesailor 05-07-2021 13:59

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Originally Posted by Juggerknot (Post 3439305)
Hahaha, yeah. A local kid fell in near the water taxis in Altamira and got the flesh eating bacteria, killed him. I'd run across crocs lined up before I go in that water!

As a kid I used to swim in murky waters full of gators & snakes, polluted waters, zero vis water in the Gulf of Mexico, and thought nothing of it. I now try to execise more caution...since I assume I over drew that account!

Ive seen kids swimming in very polluted waters in many places in Central America. Not gonna join in.

We too are interested in cruising the canals of France, which is why this thread caught my attention. I will not be swimming.

Good 05-07-2021 14:35

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Watch out for garter snakes

boatman61 05-07-2021 14:58

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Originally Posted by Good (Post 3439349)
Watch out for garter snakes

Is that advice for the ladies here..???

Richbayle 05-07-2021 15:10

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I think you will find the title of the post was sailing the french canals

SimonFirth 05-07-2021 18:53

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Originally Posted by Stu Jackson (Post 3435541)
Just look at the bloody water? Why would you even consider it? We have enjoyed the canals many times (midi, Nivernais, a few others, plus the UK).

Think about it? How does the water flow, and from where? High points with water and the rest is downhill all the way, trapped by locks.

Grimy from boat exhausts is more than enough. I could never understand people fishing off the banks - who'd wanna eat that carp? :)


We canoed on the Lot. Don't bother.

I spent a month on the VNF canals in 2008, Midi, Nivernais, Burgundy, Seine, Loire, Saone.
Don’t bother looking at them, you only have to smell them to know contact with canal water is unsafe.
I think the fishermen are into it for the sport, not the tucker.

Juggerknot 05-07-2021 19:38

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I really try and stay out of fresh water as a rule, down here the rivers are pretty bad even in nice countries and the amoeba and MRSA are not on my bucket list. Even growing up in the south I never liked the fresh water between gators, moccasins, snapping turtles... now the beach is a different story.

ameehan 06-07-2021 02:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goboatingnow (Post 3439149)
Just to be clear the River Lot is just that a river. It’s not a canal even though parts of it are canalised, many French rivers have swimming places and what not.

Many French canals are actually very clean , the MIDI being an exception especially in the summer.

Least you get the wrong impression there are not “ lots “ of dead animals in French canals. No more then any canal.

Travelling by French canal and or French rivers is an enchanting experience , wonderful villages , nice people ( always have your “ bonjours “ ready ) and of course the best food on the planet. What’s not to like.




Your post is titled “swimming in French CANALS”
Two words to finish this ludicrous topic, Weils Disease,

AM

vrxagjf 06-07-2021 12:25

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We hired a Le Boat with our German friends in August 2019. This was in northern Germany, so I can't really speak for France. I believe it's illegal to dump anywhere in Germany. This is not surprising to us knowing how particular they are when it comes to pollution (we lived there for 11 years about 20 years back). We used dump stations every time. The route we took used canals to move from lake to lake. You could possibly swim in the canals, but there was usually too much traffic. We stopped every night in one of the lakes. We had no concerns swimming there, nor did our German friends who live there.

merrydolphin 06-07-2021 18:42

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I too have sailed much of the world. 90% of the world does not have pump out stations. And quite frankly they are not needed in areas of good tidal flow. The French canals are a pretty enclosed an small volume body of water. I would not swim in them even it they had pump outs and people used them. I is a fact that the VAST majority of water pollution come from ashore and run off. Municipalities boaters are a loose unorganized group that make a very easy target for the real polluters to blame. Again, in an enclosed smaller body of water with very poor circulation, this is when holding and pump out could be called for. But this is very much in the minority. The French canals? Beautiful scenery but….yuk!

S/V Adeline 06-07-2021 19:15

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Originally Posted by skipmac (Post 3436307)
Quite correct. One example, hikers in the US used to advocate drinking from clear mountain streams but that clear mountain stream can be polluted with all sorts of nasty bacteria.

There is nothing quite like the feeling of a cold, refreshing drink from a crystal clear mountain stream...then walking another 20-30 yards upstream to find a rotting carcass half submerged. (For our non-US speaking folks, yards are very similar to meters [emoji12])

Harmen 08-07-2021 14:54

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Originally Posted by belizesailor (Post 3439322)
As a kid I used to swim in murky waters full of gators & snakes, polluted waters, zero vis water in the Gulf of Mexico, and thought nothing of it. I now try to execise more caution...since I assume I over drew that account!

Ive seen kids swimming in very polluted waters in many places in Central America. Not gonna join in.

We too are interested in cruising the canals of France, which is why this thread caught my attention. I will not be swimming.

About 15 years ago, my GF at the time decided to visit her family in the very south of Vietnam. While there, she noticed some of her nephews jumping into the local canal and decided to join them. She ended up in emergency at a local hospital with a serious rash all over and fever. A year later she was diagnosed with liver cancer and died after a transplant.
Our high hygienic standards are actually weakening our immune systems through lack of exposure. The nephews are doing fine......

hzcruiser 08-07-2021 17:26

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Originally Posted by Harmen (Post 3441075)
About 15 years ago, my GF at the time decided to visit her family in the very south of Vietnam. While there, she noticed some of her nephews jumping into the local canal and decided to join them. She ended up in emergency at a local hospital with a serious rash all over and fever. A year later she was diagnosed with liver cancer and died after a transplant.
Our high hygienic standards are actually weakening our immune systems through lack of exposure. The nephews are doing fine......

I'm really sorry to hear that! Was there a clear connection between the rash and the cancer though?

belizesailor 08-07-2021 17:33

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Originally Posted by Harmen (Post 3441075)
About 15 years ago, my GF at the time decided to visit her family in the very south of Vietnam. While there, she noticed some of her nephews jumping into the local canal and decided to join them. She ended up in emergency at a local hospital with a serious rash all over and fever. A year later she was diagnosed with liver cancer and died after a transplant.

Our high hygienic standards are actually weakening our immune systems through lack of exposure. The nephews are doing fine......

Geez, thats a dramatic case! But yes, the kids I've seen swimming in known polluted waters in many places seemed to be doing just fine. Of course there is a lot of variability in individual physiology...some people get exposed to potential carcinogens and have no ill effect, others die.

I used to swim in waters as a kid that I now know were badly polluted. I got the occassional ear infection, but Im otherwise OK (my wife might not agree!).

Juggerknot 08-07-2021 20:04

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I used to skateboard behind the mosquito truck when I was a kid, God knows what that'll lead to hahahahaha...YMMV:facepalm:

Jim Cate 09-07-2021 01:16

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I suspect this is similar to the "tourist trots" that folks get when cruising Mexican waters. The same water and food has no bad effect upon the locals, whose immune systems are used to the pathogens, but we gringos get sick when we eat or drink the food and water in some places.

You might get away with the exposure, but then again, you might not. Your choice!

Jim

goboatingnow 09-07-2021 04:54

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Originally Posted by ameehan (Post 3439604)
Your post is titled “swimming in French CANALS”

Two words to finish this ludicrous topic, Weils Disease,



AM



The point is the OP Indicated he was hiring on the river Lot. There are many suitable places to swim in that river.

dannc 09-07-2021 11:51

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Originally Posted by belizesailor (Post 3441182)
...
I used to swim in waters as a kid that I now know were badly polluted. I got the occassional ear infection, but Im otherwise OK (my wife might not agree!).

I don't think the waters I was swimming in were "badly" polluted but I guess that depends on the definition. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: I now some of the clear water lakes would be closed because of pollution issues and the lake I was swimming in every day for hours and hours and hours was NOT clear and I suspect had stuff in it from septic systems.

Never got sick, not even an ear infection. :thumb: Lots of gators and snakes in the lake too. :biggrin:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juggerknot (Post 3441237)
I used to skateboard behind the mosquito truck when I was a kid, God knows what that'll lead to hahahahaha...YMMV:facepalm:

I did not ride a skate board through the fog sprayed by the mosquito truck, I rode a bicycle. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: Had to be DDT as well. Then the state of Florida for mosquitoes and citrus problems. I think that was Malathion but it was years ago, I was older and did not ride a bike through the fog. The fog just settled around the house... :nonono::biggrin:

But I am smarter now, I think and the wife, children and coworkers might disagree, so I won't go into water that is iffy anymore. :biggrin:

Later,
Dan

belizesailor 09-07-2021 13:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Juggerknot (Post 3441237)
I used to skateboard behind the mosquito truck when I was a kid, God knows what that'll lead to hahahahaha...YMMV:facepalm:

Hey! Me too! Back in the days of DDT!

AKA-None 12-07-2021 07:26

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Originally Posted by belizesailor (Post 3441661)
Hey! Me too! Back in the days of DDT!



And look at is now, hick hick all’s good
The third eye helps keep a good watch

belizesailor 12-07-2021 07:38

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Originally Posted by AKA-None (Post 3443002)
And look at is now, hick hick all’s good
The third eye helps keep a good watch

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