Cruisers & Sailing Forums (https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/)
-   Plumbing Systems and Fixtures (https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f115/)
-   -   Raritan Elegance Flush Flow (https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f115/raritan-elegance-flush-flow-248817.html)

sailorboy1 01-04-2021 06:17

Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
I have a freshwater flush Raritan Elegance head. It flushes great and rips up whatever is in it. But from day 1 the flush water flow has been low. It is connected to the sink supply line and the flow at the sink is good and the hose to the head solenoid valve it larger than the line to the head. So that only leaves the head itself in my mind as restricting the flow.

What are other freshwater flush Elegance users experience?

BobHorn 01-04-2021 07:02

Re: Rariran Elegance Flush Flow
 
You can adjust the timing for the flush water duration. Read your manual.

sailorboy1 01-04-2021 07:04

Re: Rariran Elegance Flush Flow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BobHorn (Post 3378141)
You can adjust the timing for the flush water duration. Read your manual.

Its just push button control

I shouldn't have to fill a cup and toss in in to clean he bowl

rslifkin 01-04-2021 07:07

Re: Rariran Elegance Flush Flow
 
Is it possible your fresh water supply is lower pressure than Raritan was expecting?

sailorboy1 01-04-2021 07:18

Re: Rariran Elegance Flush Flow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rslifkin (Post 3378146)
Is it possible your fresh water supply is lower pressure than Raritan was expecting?

Who can say, it is a standard fresh water boat water system with plenty of pressure for everything else.

CSY Man 01-04-2021 07:33

Re: Rariran Elegance Flush Flow
 
I got one of those heads, there is 4 buttons, one is for Normal Flush, another one is Water Saver flush. The Normal Flush option runs seems to be really generous with 3 cycles of the flush/suck program.
Perhaps your is stuck on Water Saver...?

Sailmonkey 01-04-2021 07:35

Re: Rariran Elegance Flush Flow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sailorboy1 (Post 3378143)
Its just push button control

I shouldn't have to fill a cup and toss in in to clean he bowl



If it’s the four button control, you have the ability to program the water solenoid timing.

captain465 01-04-2021 07:41

Re: Rariran Elegance Flush Flow
 
Check out the solenoid where the fresh water enters. There is a very fine screen in there to protect the solenoid itself. If the screen becomes clogged it will give you a reduced flow when flushing. I know this from experience!!

sailorboy1 01-04-2021 08:10

Re: Rariran Elegance Flush Flow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by captain465 (Post 3378180)
Check out the solenoid where the fresh water enters. There is a very fine screen in there to protect the solenoid itself. If the screen becomes clogged it will give you a reduced flow when flushing. I know this from experience!!

I don't recall seeing one when i installed but will try to check

For those talking programmable buttons i don't have this as I don't the “smart” controller. I have a flow rate issue not a volume issue.

joelhemington 01-04-2021 16:02

Re: Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sailorboy1 (Post 3378111)
I have a freshwater flush Raritan Elegance head. It flushes great and rips up whatever is in it. But from day 1 the flush water flow has been low. It is connected to the sink supply line and the flow at the sink is good and the hose to the head solenoid valve it larger than the line to the head. So that only leaves the head itself in my mind as restricting the flow.

What are other freshwater flush Elegance users experience?

As I recall, Peggie Hall was talking about this once here on CF. She was saying there was a way to add a little water to the bowl before flushing, apparently with the button. Hopefully she'll chime in here soon as the Raritan Elegance is the only one I'd be purchasing when I finally get my boat (so I'd like to know myself) You are not the only one that's had this issue it seems.

sailorboy1 01-04-2021 16:17

Re: Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
Yes, i just push the fill button and wait.

sailorboy1 01-04-2021 16:26

Re: Rariran Elegance Flush Flow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by captain465 (Post 3378180)
Check out the solenoid where the fresh water enters. There is a very fine screen in there to protect the solenoid itself. If the screen becomes clogged it will give you a reduced flow when flushing. I know this from experience!!

No strainer on the parts drawing. But i know there it something with a square head right between the solenoid valve and the inlet water connection. Is that the screen (don't want to take apart till sure as i have problems getting it to seal well)?

dougweibel 01-04-2021 16:36

Re: Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
What about the solenoid valve? I know on our Jabsco heads the solenoid valve can get gunked up. When disasembled to clean it is enlightening to see how small the water passage through the solenoid actually is. it doesn't take much build-up to severely restrict the flow, but they are easy to clean out. Seems I need to do mine every year or two.

peghall 01-04-2021 20:01

Re: Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
I'm pretty sure you'd be a lot happier if you'd chosen one of the optional flush controls. You don't have to go with the Smart Flush control...the 3 option "momentary control" should be adequate. Raritan Momentary Control owners-manual It allows you to bring in water ahead of flush (which you should always do ahead of solids but can do any time), "dry" flush without bringing in any more water, and simultaneously bring in water and flush, same as your push button flush does.

Defender has the Momemtary Flush

https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?id=6859055

--Peggie

sailorboy1 02-04-2021 05:02

Re: Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
I DO have one of the optional controls!

Has nothing to do with the water flow rate.

Sailmonkey 02-04-2021 05:14

Re: Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
Have you tried increasing the pressure of your potable water pump? Even 5 psi can make a big difference.

sailorboy1 02-04-2021 06:29

Re: Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailmonkey (Post 3378735)
Have you tried increasing the pressure of your potable water pump? Even 5 psi can make a big difference.

No. I have great pressure right at the sink next to the head and of course it has a aerator strainer in it.

sailorboy1 02-04-2021 06:32

Re: Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
I feel the problem has to be at the head solenoid valve and/or a strainer there if it exists. I am in Bahamas and think i will not do anything till i get get to States in case something goes wrong while taking it apart.

peghall 02-04-2021 07:42

Re: Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
Above, you said "Its just push button control"


--Peggie

peghall 02-04-2021 07:45

Re: Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
I think it's time you had a chat with Raritan tech support about it. 800-352-5630. Mac McCoy is my go-to guy there...his extension is 306


--Peggie

sailorboy1 02-04-2021 09:48

Re: Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peghall (Post 3378844)
Above, you said "Its just push button control"


--Peggie

It is! Push the top one to rinse, bottom to flush, in middle to push both at same time.

Why does it matter to the question?

cr180 02-04-2021 11:44

Re: Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
I just installed the SeaEra QC. Suspect similar flush flow rates. I tested the flow rate and found 1/2 gallon (approximately a full bowl for the smaller marine size) in less than four seconds. This equates to about 8 gallons/minute. I plumbed a dedicated 1/2” hose from the discharge of my water pump to the toilet and the incoming cannot keep up with the flush rate. Fortunately, I opted for the manual control. My solution as Peggy said is to pre-fill the bowl and then suspend the flush when the bowl empties. Re-fill and flush a second time if need be. One reason I selected the manual control is that I understand the default setting on the automatic control is 8 seconds, which I see is way too long.

sailorboy1 07-04-2021 06:26

Re: Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sailorboy1 (Post 3378111)
I have a freshwater flush Raritan Elegance head. It flushes great and rips up whatever is in it. But from day 1 the flush water flow has been low. It is connected to the sink supply line and the flow at the sink is good and the hose to the head solenoid valve it larger than the line to the head. So that only leaves the head itself in my mind as restricting the flow.

What are other freshwater flush Elegance users experience?

Had a hose leak today on the supply hose in back of the head so had reason to take it apart.

captain465 in post #8 was correct, there is a press in strainer on the inlet to the solenoid valve and it was semi clogged. Much better flush flow now. :thumb:

Shrew 07-04-2021 07:56

Re: Rariran Elegance Flush Flow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sailorboy1 (Post 3378143)
Its just push button control

I shouldn't have to fill a cup and toss in in to clean he bowl

We fill the bowl with water before using for anything that would require 'cleaning'. We just hold the 'fill' button until we think there is enough.

dhenline 07-04-2021 13:08

Re: Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sailorboy1 (Post 3382608)
Had a hose leak today on the supply hose in back of the head so had reason to take it apart.

captain465 in post #8 was correct, there is a press in strainer on the inlet to the solenoid valve and it was semi clogged. Much better flush flow now. :thumb:

SB: thanks for the follow up. so often we dont get to find out what the answer was
don

dhenline 07-04-2021 15:12

Re: Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
also, what did it look like it was clogged with? I assume this is a fresh water system, so would that imply some contamination in your water tank?
or is it quite a small screen?
don

sailorboy1 07-04-2021 15:23

Re: Raritan Elegance Flush Flow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dhenline (Post 3382915)
also, what did it look like it was clogged with? I assume this is a fresh water system, so would that imply some contamination in your water tank?
or is it quite a small screen?
don

It just seemed dirt type material. Came right off with a toothbrush. It is only a 1/2” valve so doesn't take a lot to make a big difference.

Also today I found it is a LOT easier to just disconnect the valve at its outlet hose fitting and pull the valve up to work on the supply side connection that has always been hard to get tight.


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 20:34.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.


ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.