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Franziska 26-07-2020 05:25

Helicopter Rescue, what would be acceptable to take from aboard?
 
Hi,

I hope to never ever be in that situation. But, out of curiosity, say you where forced to be taken of the boat by helicopter.

Besides personal documents, are there any rules what one can take or not?
Would a 15" laptop in a waterproof float case acceptable?
Or a hard drive in a waterproof float case?

I'm getting some float cases right now in any case, but I'd like to hear from someone in the field what would be acceptable, so that I know if I better get a separate case for a separate hard-drive as it's smaller.

Thanks,

Fran

Chotu 26-07-2020 05:43

Re: Helicopter Rescue, what would be acceptable to take from board?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Franziska (Post 3194400)
Hi,

I hope to never ever be in that situation. But, out of curiosity, say you where forced to be taken of the boat by helicopter.

Besides personal documents, are there any rules what one can take or not?
Would a 15" laptop in a waterproof float case acceptable?
Or a hard drive in a waterproof float case?

I'm getting some float cases right now in any case, but I'd like to hear from someone in the field what would be acceptable, so that I know if I better get a separate case for a separate hard-drive as it's smaller.

Thanks,

Fran

My opinion is that youíre asking a question best answered by a change in your requirements.

Back your laptops and removable drives up to the cloud.

Donít worry about the physical device.

Then you can worry about what matters. Saving yourself and maybe your boat.

tkeithlu 26-07-2020 05:51

Re: Helicopter Rescue, what would be acceptable to take from board?
 
Lifted off by a helicopter? What you have in your pockets, if you are fortunate, and all that saturated by seawater.

During WWII torpedoed US merchant marine sailors were known for bringing vastly excessive luggage onto crowded rescue ships.

Actually, a waterproof floating ammunition case of survival stuff may be the best to take onto your life raft, but don't count on getting it from there to a helicopter.

Chuto speaks with wisdom.

GreenWave 26-07-2020 05:51

Re: Helicopter Rescue, what would be acceptable to take from board?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Franziska (Post 3194400)
Hi,

I hope to never ever be in that situation. But, out of curiosity, say you where forced to be taken of the boat by helicopter.

Besides personal documents, are there any rules what one can take or not?
Would a 15" laptop in a waterproof float case acceptable?
Or a hard drive in a waterproof float case?

I'm getting some float cases right now in any case, but I'd like to hear from someone in the field what would be acceptable, so that I know if I better get a separate case for a separate hard-drive as it's smaller.

Thanks,

Fran


The clothes on your back and what reasonably fits into your pockets. Nothing else!

Franziska 26-07-2020 05:59

Re: Helicopter Rescue, what would be acceptable to take from board?
 
Thanks, but I would like to know the specific answer of someone flying on such choppers or directly involved into their operations.
What do they ACTUALLY allow.

Of course it's first the life of the crew, than the boat and than the HDD...

Btw. Regularly updating 10TB onto the cloud is not easily done with sketchy internet. I had been thinking of that too at first.

Chotu 26-07-2020 06:01

Re: Helicopter Rescue, what would be acceptable to take from board?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Franziska (Post 3194417)
Thanks, but I would like to know the specific answer of someone flying on such choppers or directly involved into their operations.
What do they ACTUALLY allow.

Of course it's first the life of the crew, than the boat and than the HDD...

Btw. Regularly updating 10TB onto the cloud is not easily done with sketchy internet. I had been thinking of that too at first.

What are you doing? Creating hundreds of feature films??

That’s not how a backup works. Do an incremental backup. That saves the changes to your 10TB only, not the whole 10TB.

kevinof 26-07-2020 06:02

Re: Helicopter Rescue, what would be acceptable to take from board?
 
So chances are you'll get wet - If in the U.S. you will definitely get wet - their "swimmers" like you to be in the water and then hoist from there.

In Europe, the winch "man" tend to go from the boat/liferaft direct to the helicopter and swim only as a last resort.

Either way the most you can bring is your passports/docs in a sealed bag stuffed inside your jacket.

BlackHeron 26-07-2020 06:11

Re: Helicopter Rescue, what would be acceptable to take from board?
 
Waterproof keychain flash drive. Keep a running backup of all your files, and keep it on you or in with your documents/passport in a small pocketable waterproof bag.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DCPMSFK..._z9xhFbV9YB269


They probably aren't going to let you bring much more than the clothes on your back and what's in your pockets. Be thankful for that.

Franziska 26-07-2020 07:03

Re: Helicopter Rescue, what would be acceptable to take from board?
 
No, it's my complete business setup, CAD visualisation, CGI films and so on.

Yes, I do incremental backups, still it does need to compare both versions no?

So it will need time and data, but you are right it will not be the full TB each time. Point taken.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chotu (Post 3194421)
What are you doing? Creating hundreds of feature films??

Thatís not how a backup works. Do an incremental backup. That saves the changes to your 10TB only, not the whole 10TB.


Franziska 26-07-2020 07:07

Re: Helicopter Rescue, what would be acceptable to take from board?
 
No such thing as a 10 Terrabyte waterproof keyring.
But, I found some reasonable sized waterproof 5Tb 2.5" drives. I guess I could fit those inside the survival suit in a worst case.
I really really hope that will never be necessary though. Still, as it's my business data, I would definitely have the option to take it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackHeron (Post 3194424)
Waterproof keychain flash drive. Keep a running backup of all your files, and keep it on you or in with your documents/passport in a small pocketable waterproof bag.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DCPMSFK..._z9xhFbV9YB269


They probably aren't going to let you bring much more than the clothes on your back and what's in your pockets. Be thankful for that.


Franziska 26-07-2020 07:08

Re: Helicopter Rescue, what would be acceptable to take from board?
 
Getting wet is not the issue, hence the small float cases or waterproof drives.

Good info on the different hoisting approach.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevinof (Post 3194422)
So chances are you'll get wet - If in the U.S. you will definitely get wet - their "swimmers" like you to be in the water and then hoist from there.

In Europe, the winch "man" tend to go from the boat/liferaft direct to the helicopter and swim only as a last resort.

Either way the most you can bring is your passports/docs in a sealed bag stuffed inside your jacket.


a64pilot 26-07-2020 07:09

Re: Helicopter Rescue, what would be acceptable to take from board?
 
I think it will be up to the helicopter crew, likely they are briefed nothing goes except the person, no personal belongings because that can get stupid quick. But I bet if you had a pouch that went around your neck and under your shirt they wouldn’t care.
You have to put your passport and wallet somewhere don’t you?

I would assume it’s no pets too, but if a person is standing there tightly holding their little dog you would just let them, but a 100 lb lab may be different?

But also is it an easy rescue, you floating in a liferaft in calm seas and wind in daylight or is it a storm tossed sea with bad vis?

Group9 26-07-2020 07:16

Re: Helicopter Rescue, what would be acceptable to take from board?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a64pilot (Post 3194472)
I think it will be up to the helicopter crew, likely they are briefed nothing goes except the person, no personal belongings because that can get stupid quick. But I bet if you had a pouch that went around your neck and under your shirt they wouldnít care.
You have to put your passport and wallet somewhere donít you?

I would assume itís no pets too, but if a person is standing there tightly holding their little dog you would just let them, but a 100 lb lab may be different?

But also is it an easy rescue, you floating in a liferaft in calm seas and wind in daylight or is it a storm tossed sea with bad vis?

Back around 2002, I know there was a boat that went down in the Gulf Stream, where the husband and wife were taken off by one of the USCG OPBAT helicopter crews out of Great Inagua who had a parrot with them.

The Coast Guard crew not only took the parrot off, too, but took care of it for them on Great Inagua when the airline wouldn't let them bring it aboard when they were flying home. The couple came back a week later or so on a charter flight and picked the parrot up.

Most of the Coasties are great guys, and I think a risk of crashing the helo would be the only thing that would stop them from bringing a pet onboard from a sinking boat.

a64pilot 26-07-2020 07:27

Re: Helicopter Rescue, what would be acceptable to take from board?
 
You did the OPBAT thing?
Our sister unit was the one that crashed the UH-60 with the wives aboard.

Sand crab 26-07-2020 07:37

Re: Helicopter Rescue, what would be acceptable to take from board?
 
I saw a video where one of the guys being rescued had a cooler tethered to him. Before you go off on that the main reason was the cooler was light and waterproof so they were able to bring some small items that needed to stay dry. I assume this was approved by the USCG crew in advance.


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