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Johnknutson 05-12-2019 14:03

Sailing outerwear
 
Hello all, I have a question about cold weather sailing outerwear. What are people wearing when sailing offshore in Alaska and Canada? Been doing research on Mustang, Gill, and others but really want to know what works and what doesn't.

Flagman101 05-12-2019 19:34

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HH, Gill, Musto, Mustang all have good stuff.
Do not cheap out on your hard shell jacket. Buy the best you can afford. This is what keep you dry. The rest can be simple polar fleece, goose down, merino wool and quick dry clothes.
I multi layer, ( Onion ) and change often. Specially socks. Buy merino wool socks and change them often.
I wear a HH Aegir Ocen race jacket and bibs. I have breathable deck boots by Gill and water proof gloves.

Johnknutson 05-12-2019 19:37

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Originally Posted by Flagman101 (Post 3030181)
HH, Gill, Musto, Mustang all have good stuff.
Do not cheap out on your hard shell jacket. Buy the best you can afford. This is what keep you dry. The rest can be simple polar fleece, goose down, merino wool and quick dry clothes.
I multi layer, ( Onion ) and change often. Specially socks. Buy merino wool socks and change them often.
I wear a HH Aegir Ocen race jacket and bibs. I have breathable deck boots by Gill and water proof gloves.

Thanks for your comments. Yeah, I'm going to focus on jackets and bibs for my wife and me.

Flagman101 05-12-2019 19:42

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Originally Posted by Johnknutson (Post 3030183)
Thanks for your comments. Yeah, I'm going to focus on jackets and bibs for my wife and me.

Don't buy them to close fitting. You need to be able to put layers under them according to temperature.

rbk 05-12-2019 21:30

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We love our mustang floater gear, bibs and jackets. Not only does it keep you dry and warm it also helps extend your time during a cold water immersion. Weíve had the classics which lasted fairly well for the price but now onto the catalyst line. They are a little stiff initially but do break in rather quick with frequent use, then you will live in them. :thumb:

paralog 05-12-2019 22:16

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If you are just starting out a good set of outdoor Goretex jacket and pants will work well. You can over spend on some of the off shore stuff when all you may need is good coastal gear rather than the very expensive off shore stuff.
Some long term sailors eventually give up on the fancy goretex and purchase what the local fishermen are wearing, like Helly Hansen etc. It less of an issue if you tear a hole in a $50 jacket rather than a $1000 jacket.

Red Sky 05-12-2019 22:48

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I was a bit apprehensive about the new, $$$, set of Gill off-shore foulies I bought for a trip from Hawaii to SF until the 36 hours of 50 knots and 30íers that filled the cockpit numerous times. Along with good boots, I was able to come off all of my watchís with dry fleece layers and socks. Conditions were rough enough, it would have been a real problem to have been wet and cold too. It was money wisely and well spent.

Santiano 05-12-2019 23:31

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I fished two seasons in Alaska. We wore solid neoprene oilies. None of this breathable sh!te for me. Your skin can breathe once the gale clears.

Johnknutson 06-12-2019 02:01

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Originally Posted by paralog (Post 3030251)
If you are just starting out a good set of outdoor Goretex jacket and pants will work well. You can over spend on some of the off shore stuff when all you may need is good coastal gear rather than the very expensive off shore stuff.
Some long term sailors eventually give up on the fancy goretex and purchase what the local fishermen are wearing, like Helly Hansen etc. It less of an issue if you tear a hole in a $50 jacket rather than a $1000 jacket.

Thanks for your comments. Makes sense.

Johnknutson 06-12-2019 02:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paralog (Post 3030251)
If you are just starting out a good set of outdoor Goretex jacket and pants will work well. You can over spend on some of the off shore stuff when all you may need is good coastal gear rather than the very expensive off shore stuff.
Some long term sailors eventually give up on the fancy goretex and purchase what the local fishermen are wearing, like Helly Hansen etc. It less of an issue if you tear a hole in a $50 jacket rather than a $1000 jacket.

Looking at H&H gear. I used to climb and H&H gear was always good.

Exile 06-12-2019 08:46

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Originally Posted by Santiano (Post 3030260)
I fished two seasons in Alaska. We wore solid neoprene oilies. None of this breathable sh!te for me. Your skin can breathe once the gale clears.

After years of using a lot of the higher tech breathable stuff in various applications, I'm inclined to agree when it comes to offshore cruising. Nothing wrong with the techy stuff -- in fact one nice plus is they afford a lot of movement which is comfortable if you're racing or moving around the boat a lot.

Seems like HH and some of the other well known brand names may have started out making classic oilies for fishermen, etc., but are now pretty techy and expensive. Anyone have a good online link to a credible vendor for the more traditional neoprene "oilies"?

rbk 06-12-2019 09:44

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Originally Posted by Johnknutson (Post 3030279)
Looking at H&H gear. I used to climb and H&H gear was always good.

Watch the new HH gear. Their new fabrics are very light and tear easily, although their pro material is a little better than their two other fabrics itís still not as tough as a high count cordura, IMO their commercial gear is better suited for hard use. Most fishermen in Alaska are running Grundens, they're waterproof, generally tough and affordable. Viking also makes some affordable wet weather work gear that is similar to Grundens. If youíre looking at cold weather gear take into account cold water immersion, most of the offshore and coastal wet weather gear, commercial or rec do not prevent flushing or add any benefits when immersed.

Exile 06-12-2019 09:57

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Originally Posted by rbk (Post 3030451)
Most fishermen in Alaska are running Grundens, they're waterproof, generally tough and affordable.

If it works for fishermen in Alaska . . . .

rbk 06-12-2019 10:14

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Originally Posted by Exile (Post 3030463)
If it works for fishermen in Alaska . . . .

Just donít look at the casualty numbers of AK fishermen. Most donít wear floatation.

Exile 06-12-2019 11:03

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Originally Posted by rbk (Post 3030477)
Just donít look at the casualty numbers of AK fishermen. Most donít wear floatation.

As I recall, and for the industry as a whole, one of the highest casualty rates out there. No doubt even worse up in that part of the world.


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