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Joe Abbott 24-07-2019 17:53

5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
 
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When reviewing the reverse side of our new 5-year USCG COD, noticed something a little strange in the “fine print.



It states, ” This certificate is valid for one year.



While the USCG COD is a legal document and I’m no lawyer, wonder which statement takes legal precedent, the front side which has dates indicating valid for 5 years or the reverse side which states it valid for one year?


Any thoughts?


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jmorrison146 24-07-2019 22:14

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It is valid for one year. Plus four more.

Joe Abbott 24-07-2019 22:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jmorrison146 (Post 2938480)
It is valid for one year. Plus four more.


Haha! Good one!

On the semi-serious side, I did send an email inquiry for clarification to the NVDC at nvdc.w.webmaster@uscg.mil. Still awaiting a response.

Was surprised this was not identified earlier. Guess like most, no one reads the “fine” print.

Figure this is likely just another governmental bureaucratic “oops!”.

letsgetsailing3 24-07-2019 23:44

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The Certificate itself is valid for one year.


It can be extended to last up to five years.


What's the issue?



This is a LOT better than having to do a renewal every year.

Joe Abbott 24-07-2019 23:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by letsgetsailing3 (Post 2938493)
The Certificate itself is valid for one year.


It can be extended to last up to five years.


What's the issue?



This is a LOT better than having to do a renewal every year.


Look at the picture in the original post - front states good for 5 years - backside says good for one. See areas highlighted in RED.

letsgetsailing3 25-07-2019 00:02

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Originally Posted by Joe Abbott (Post 2938495)
Look at the picture in the original post - front states good for 5 years - backside says good for one. See areas highlighted in RED.


Yes, I read your post.


If you get a different answer somewhere let us know.

capt jgw 25-07-2019 06:43

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What was the fee for the supposed 5 year COD? $26 or $130?

letsgetsailing3 25-07-2019 06:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by letsgetsailing3 (Post 2938493)
The Certificate itself is valid for one year.

It can be extended to last up to five years.

What's the issue?

This is a LOT better than having to do a renewal every year.


Oh, and if this wasn't clear, I mean you extended it when you renewed (or selected 5 year extension), right? Giving it a total validity of 5 years.

SARswimmer 25-07-2019 09:41

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The way I read that is that some states require registration as well as documentation (for tax purposes?) and that the state registration is only valid for one year.

Moontide 25-07-2019 10:56

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Looks to me like someone forgot to print new blanks when they went to the 5 year option.


Please post the response you get from the NVDC.



Thanks,
Bill

bauer965 25-07-2019 11:52

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It's 5 years. Don't worry about it. Go by the 2024 date shown.

The form is a 2004 form, which the "fine print" is a part of. Obviously, the form hasn't been updated to reflect to recent new 5-yr Documentation. People do make mistakes and overlook these things and/or didn't want to throw thousands of printed 2004 forms in the trash and print thousands more to replace them, saving you the taxpayer money.

letsgetsailing3 25-07-2019 12:48

Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moontide (Post 2938820)
Looks to me like someone forgot to print new blanks when they went to the 5 year option.


Please post the response you get from the NVDC.



Thanks,
Bill


I doubt they're going to want to have to print something custom on both sides. My guess is that they'll eventually re-word it.

Cadence 25-07-2019 14:19

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Originally Posted by bauer965 (Post 2938866)
It's 5 years. Don't worry about it. Go by the 2024 date shown.

The form is a 2004 form, which the "fine print" is a part of. Obviously, the form hasn't been updated to reflect to recent new 5-yr Documentation. People do make mistakes and overlook these things and/or didn't want to throw thousands of printed 2004 forms in the trash and print thousands more to replace them, saving you the taxpayer money.

I think you nailed it.

jmschmidt 25-07-2019 15:30

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They obviously forgot to rewrite the text on the backside of the form when they came out with the new 5-year documentation. In other words they didn't use the extra money they charge to hire intelligent and detail-oriented people in their documents section. Makes you wonder about their shipbuilding department?

letsgetsailing3 25-07-2019 16:05

Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmschmidt (Post 2939030)
They obviously forgot to rewrite the text on the backside of the form when they came out with the new 5-year documentation. In other words they didn't use the extra money they charge to hire intelligent and detail-oriented people in their documents section. Makes you wonder about their shipbuilding department?


They didn't redo the form at all.

This is far from the worst problem in government paperwork, or even USCG documentation paperwork.

I'm just glad you can renew for 5 years now.


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