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chook 31-03-2019 08:56

Corinth Canal - Why so expensive
 
Hi all,

We recently passed through the Corinth Canal and we enjoyed the experience. We found it to be expensive, 224 Euro for a 13.4 metre sail boat in winter. I was wondering why it's so expensive? I understand it cuts off a lot of time and they would need to dredge/work on the canal with 12000 boats going through per year. Also does anyone know if anyone has crashed into the walls of the canal? Just interested. Thanks guys, fair winds :)

Our video of our Corinth Canal journey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX36ycM-ep0

john61ct 31-03-2019 09:07

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Answered your own question you did.

It isn't a charity, you can afford it, lots cheaper than going around the long way.

In the end, because they can.

Gruz 31-03-2019 09:45

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Why asking here, you should ask Greek government, or main reason for "question" is to leave video and get some clicks.

You could ask same question without video and my answer would be the same, I do not know, ask Greek government.


No offend.

Montanan 31-03-2019 10:01

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The toll is not insubstantial nor onerous. E.g., if it was too expensive, you would not have used the passage way.

And it sure beats using the portage created by Periander, 2,600 years ago or the 700 kilometer route around the coastline of the peninsula.

By way of comparison, the 40 mile [65km] Panama canal cost $800.00 to transit with a <50 foot recreational vessel.

Construction of the modern Corinth Canal—which is 6.4 kilometers long (4 miles)—was started in 1882 and completed by 1893. The canal is narrow (only 21.3 meters, or 70 feet), making many ships too wide for it. Landslides from the steep walls have occasionally blocked the canal, while channeled winds and tides also can make navigation difficult.

chook 31-03-2019 10:25

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Thanks Montana, great info, didn't know the Panama was that expensive. We really liked the experience of the Corinth, was just not that long so thought it was expensive, but yes like most comments we paid it because well it's better than going around the long way haha.

Gruz no offense taken hahaha, thought people might be interested in the video as this forum had no info before we went through.

Does anyone know if anyone has crashed? Thanks for the reply's guys

boatman61 31-03-2019 10:28

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You do know you dont pay going back dont you..???

Montanan 31-03-2019 11:21

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As to the fees? Hey it's Greek to me! Reference the canal company's income statement below: At least I think this is the statement, being a Yank, Greek is a mystery, my bad. Revenue and income appear to be modest.

As to crashing into the sidewalls of the canal, I'm sure it happens more times then one thinks it should, especially if a strong wind channels the canal and a strong current [up to 3 knots]. But then that is what one has rub rails for, right?. :biggrin: Just navigate by braille, scrap, opps, too far to starboard, scrap again, opps, too far to port. :banghead:

Now it would be a real achievement to sail the canal, obviously with just a tail wind as tacking to a head wind with a 70 foot width of channel would become quite the bother. If you accomplished such it would be an achievement to brag about [after you were let out of a Greek jail], kind of like driving UP Lombard Street in San Francisco instead of down the hill. SF where one leaves their heart. :smitten:

I suspect that occasionally the tug boats fail to keep the large ships centered and something scraps and then recenters the ship into the deeper part. As a Captain of the large ship, one would just need to put trust in the tugboat operator, and sit back and drink cocktails as ya are just going along for quite the ride.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q1a0xkaYUE

mikecambrai 01-04-2019 08:50

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With regards to large vessels under tow not hitting the sides, I used to have a 39m Peniche and travelled through the European waterways. When you get to a lock or a cutting, you find that the water at the front of the barge has to go somewhere so it will go under the barge and along the sides of the barge. Otherwise, you would be like a piston in a cylinder. This keeps the barge away from the sides of the narrow passage. If the water is shallow you will get the shallow water effect which can cause the boat to sheer, so you need to keep the speed down to avoid this.

Montanan 01-04-2019 09:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecambrai (Post 2860813)
With regards to large vessels under tow not hitting the sides, I used to have a 39m Peniche and travelled through the European waterways. When you get to a lock or a cutting, you find that the water at the front of the barge has to go somewhere so it will go under the barge and along the sides of the barge. Otherwise, you would be like a piston in a cylinder. This keeps the barge away from the sides of the narrow passage. If the water is shallow you will get the shallow water effect which can cause the boat to sheer, so you need to keep the speed down to avoid this.

Thanks Mike for that explanation, that would be comforting to have such hydraulic bumper mechanism working for a tight squeeze. :thumb:

georgy.goshin 01-04-2019 11:08

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Göta canal will cost you 1500 eur

georgy.goshin 01-04-2019 11:09

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Kiel canal will be free of charge

Montanan 01-04-2019 11:57

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Originally Posted by georgy.goshin (Post 2860928)
Göta canal will cost you 1500 eur

Wow, at that cost it could be named in English: GOTCHAnal.

But then it has to cost a lot to maintain and operate what with all the locks to transit and its limited months of availability for use [about 5 months] due to icing.

From Wikipedia:

Modern usage
Parts of the canal are still used to transport cargo, but it is now primarily used as a tourist and recreational attraction, dubbed Sveriges blå band ("Sweden's Blue Ribbon"). Around two million people visit the canal each year on pleasure cruises - either on own boats or on one of the many cruise ships - and related activities. The canal is called the "divorce ditch" because of the troubles that couples have to endure while trying to navigate the narrow canal and the many locks by themselves. :smitten:

georgy.goshin 01-04-2019 12:02

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Originally Posted by Montanan (Post 2860971)
WThe canal is called the "divorce ditch" because of the troubles that couples have to endure while trying to navigate the narrow canal and the many locks by themselves.[/SIZE][/B] :smitten:

great side effect, will keep in mind, thanks

Scaramanga F25 01-04-2019 14:10

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That is quite inexpensive...try the Panama Canal...LOL yachts under 50 feet figure $1875.oo US dollars in cash.

Maple Leaf 01-04-2019 21:39

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Thanks for the video! I enjoyed and lea not something. Fair Winds

Uncle Bob 01-04-2019 22:24

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Originally Posted by Scaramanga F25 (Post 2861057)
That is quite inexpensive...try the Panama Canal...LOL yachts under 50 feet figure $1875.oo US dollars in cash.

Ah, try US$800.00 for yachts under 50 feet. :rolleyes:

CatNewBee 02-04-2019 03:22

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I am not sure, but if I recall for the Panama Canal, 1900US$ includes a refundable deposit in case you break down in between and need a tug.

Mistress Sirena 03-04-2019 10:57

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Originally Posted by Gruz (Post 2860099)
Why asking here, you should ask Greek government, or main reason for "question" is to leave video and get some clicks.

You could ask same question without video and my answer would be the same, I do not know, ask Greek government.


No offend.

A LEGITIMATE QUESTION FOR THIS FORUM I ENJOYED THE VIDEO VERY MUCH THANKS::thumb:

chook 06-04-2019 04:14

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Thanks Mistress Sirena, glad you enjoyed :) Thanks everyone else also who tried to answer my question, appreciate it!

Greg K 09-04-2019 07:42

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Talking about going into the walls of the Corinth. Do they still do the bungee jumping off the bridge? Quite startling to see someone dangling in the middle of the canal passage.


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