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Suijin 22-12-2018 05:40

Balmar alternator repair help please!
 
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My tachometer has been working intermittently ever since I installed a new Balmar alternator with external regulator a few years ago. Problem was finally traced to the post for the connection between the stator and the regulator. Cracked the case and am a bit mystified by what’s revealed. Pen tip in the picture below is pointing to a ring terminal that is just “laying” against the post plate. Can anyone tell me how this is supposed to be attached/configured? Almost looks like a manufacturing flaw.

Combed the net for any info and found nothing.

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hellosailor 22-12-2018 14:22

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Certainly looks like some just didn't install the terminal properly, but after this many years, it would be very generous of Balmar to fix it as a manufacturing defect.

More likely, it just needs to be properly screwed down someplace and that will solve the problem?

EngNate 22-12-2018 22:03

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does the terminal have two varnished solid wires like the windings? If so it would be one of the stator winding connections. There are three such connections, each going to a pair of the six rectifiers. The tach connection is to (any) one of these

NYSail 23-12-2018 00:17

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Did you call balmar and discuss? Dale in the tech department is very helpful and I am sure he can advise you. As mentioned might be just attach. But I am wondering how it has stayed in place all these years if it’s just “laying” there.

Greg

thereefgeek 23-12-2018 07:52

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Definitely get ahold of Balmar and ask if this is normal.
Probably should've done that a few years ago when you first noticed the tach issue.
Either way, they can warrantee it out, or at least fix it for you at less than the cost of a new alternator.

Suijin 23-12-2018 09:51

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Took this long to figure out because I did not really need the tach. I know the rpm ranges I use by sound.

So went ahead and soldered the connection. May not like vibration; all the other posts have rivet connections. Will fix it properly if the solder ever breaks.

NYSail 23-12-2018 10:09

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Does it now work

Suijin 23-12-2018 10:55

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Not installed yet lol. Will not have it in until Wednesday. I’m fairly certain it will; appears to be a manufacturing defect that worked (intermittently) and passed testing as it was generally in contact.

pitlaw 23-12-2018 11:28

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I am sure you already know this but Pasco Battery off West St in Annapolis is a Balmar authorized rebuilder. They could surely look at it and advise.

guyrj33 23-12-2018 14:41

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Solder will break in time.

GoAway 24-12-2018 07:03

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If you do call Balmar or take it to Pasco, please let us know what they say. I also have a Balmar alternator and occasionally, my tach stops working briefly. It happens shortly after starting engine and I have always attributed it to somewhat low voltage (although never below 60% SOC) at that time. Perhaps there is another cause.

EngNate 24-12-2018 09:52

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It is quite common to temporarily lose the tach signal when a multi-stage regulator switches to float. The voltage setting has just been dropped and the battery is higher than the setting at that point so the alternator goes completely off for a time. Turn some accessory loads on and it will come back more quickly.

GoAway 24-12-2018 10:06

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How clever EngNate. I would have never thought of that, but it sure makes sense. Thanks

Suijin 04-01-2019 07:51

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Problem solved, so the post was the issue.

A mechanic friend end of mine mentioned that this is a common problem (aside from the specific cause of mine which appeared to be a manufacturing defect) caused by over tightening the nut on the stator contact without putting another wrench on the retaining but. He sees them broken inside with some regularity.

Balmars have a feature to keep the tach working when the charging voltage drops so that should not be an issue other than a momentary lapse.

LittleWing77 04-01-2019 08:06

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Thanks very much for the resolution post, Suijin. I was following this, as I'm seeking to broaden my tech knowledge.

Happy New Year!
LittleWing


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