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goboats 11-04-2018 18:50

volvo md11 water in the oil
 
Bought an 82 323 pearson with an engine prob. Head was rusted inside leaking water into combustion chamber , replaced the head to find water now filling the crankcase and pressurising the raw water system. Any experience with trouble shooting ?? please . SO far replacing o rings in crankcase and impeller seals.

shakey doug 11-04-2018 19:22

Re: volvo md11 water in the oil
 
Exhaust manifold corroded through.

MartinR 11-04-2018 20:35

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Sea-water cooled?

goboats 12-04-2018 02:46

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Sea water yes...manifold tested positive...maybe a small leak in the gasket but water came in at 1 litre an hour

shakey doug 12-04-2018 03:42

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Head studs may require resetting & sealing in Block.

MartinR 12-04-2018 04:48

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This is a well-built engine, but antique.

I would start to check the sea water pump shaft seals. Cheap item. Then pressure test the block. As this is sea water cooled, there may be cracks or holes from corrosion. If I remember correctly, this engine has loose cylinder liners, their seals may be a source of leaks. Exhaust elbow, of course.

goboats 12-04-2018 05:11

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Head studs are threaded into the block ok...and no water passages in the block at all on the md11

goboats 12-04-2018 05:21

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Doing the water pump seals today and putting engine back together . Will update with crossed fingers

MartinR 12-04-2018 05:24

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Yes, you are right, there are no water passages, but there should be water around the cylinder liners. If my memory serves me right this engine uses loose liners. Maybe a cracked head or cylinder liner. Would not be strange at this age.

MartinR 12-04-2018 05:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goboats (Post 2614490)
Doing the water pump seals today and putting engine back together . Will update with crossed fingers

Yes, this would be an easy fix. Good thing, spare parts are still available for these.

These are great engines.

goboats 12-04-2018 05:34

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Thanks Martin..hard to pressure test the liners but I did have them off and they held water ok with no leaks. Bought new o rings but finding it difficult to find a good mechanic to replace them with the right tools . They have to be presision set for proper compression ratio. So I just honed them and put them back on

SCarns 12-04-2018 09:01

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I had same problem. I had an MD2B that I rebuilt with the Volvo gasket kit. Ran it for a short period of time and it developed water in the crankcase. What I discovered was the Volvo head gaskets have a seam in the metal cylinder ring. Eventually it failed and the heads leaked water into the cylinders. I replaced the gaskets with Sierra head gaskets (which are much cheaper) that donít have the seam. Problem solved. Never had another issue with the engine again.

Then, I upgraded to a rebuilt MD3B and ran that pretty hard for about a month when it develop the same problem. Rather than go through another rebuild, my solution was to pull the engine and install a Westerbeke. No more water in the oil.

goboats 12-04-2018 09:19

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Wow nereseus that's very interesting and great info..will look for that . How much water did enter the oil ? And did it blow white smoke and pressureize the water system? I have tiny bubbles in my exhaust water and it seems like a light flow of water....maybe not enough flow

DougR 12-04-2018 10:02

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Pressurized water system?...... Maybe a leaking injector copper tube in the head...Pushes combustion gasses into the water when running and could leak water the other way when not running.

DougR

MartinR 12-04-2018 10:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goboats (Post 2614609)
Wow nereseus that's very interesting and great info..will look for that . How much water did enter the oil ? And did it blow white smoke and pressureize the water system? I have tiny bubbles in my exhaust water and it seems like a light flow of water....maybe not enough flow

We are getting there. White smoke means you are getting water into the combustion chamber and not only into the crankcase and bubbly pressurised water means that you get exhaust into the water system. So somewhere is a connection. Cylinder heads, cylinder liners. My first guess would be head gaskets or a crack/corrosion in one head. Probably the head gasket in the cylinder head you replaced. Happened to me once, new gasket failed. Changed brand, then OK.


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