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boatman61 14-02-2016 09:21

What price should I ask for my boat...
 
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Its seems to me there's a load of fantasists trotting around making proclamations like..
If a boats advertised in the MED offer 50% less.. they always jack up the price for the sun..
or.. all sellers add 25-50% to get what they want..:rolleyes:
so offer them at least 40% less...:facepalm:
Where are these weird and wonderful things dreamt up...:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
1981 steel Van de Stadt 37 with hull lengthened to facilitate a swim platform resulting in an LOA of 11.9metres.
A sailaway and keep basic or.. a mobile project to mould around you.. steel makes life so easy internal furniture wise.. topsides.. functional but always room for improvement...
StuM... what dya reckon mate...:flowers:
Oppssss.... fore and aft cabin, salon galley and basic head/shower.. sorriiiieeeee

SaltyMonkey 14-02-2016 09:28

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Whatever you paid for it + 20-40% to cover whatever work you performed incl the transport time etc. You haven't had it that long :D

boatman61 14-02-2016 09:30

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Did not put 'Needs Work'.. its a boat.:whistling:

nauticalnomad 14-02-2016 09:34

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Rent the thing out Phil, on AirBnB for accommodation where you are..
You'll at least cover your costs for keeping it.

boatman61 14-02-2016 09:34

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Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey (Post 2045743)
Whatever you paid for it + 20-40% to cover whatever work you performed incl the transport time etc. You haven't had it that long :D

Owned her for 1 year this month.. took me from Malta to Sicily, Sardinia, Mallorca, Almerimar etc and up to Fig da Foz.. more boat than I want.. a 30ftr is more my style.. with a tiller:smitten:

boatman61 14-02-2016 09:41

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Originally Posted by nauticalnomad (Post 2045748)
Rent the thing out Phil, on AirBnB for accommodation where you are..
You'll at least cover your costs for keeping it.

Now that is a bloody good idea..
Just got new berth cushions V & Salon.. and when I've painted inside..
WooHooo.... 2 bed floating apt to let... dinghy and OB for easy access to the surf beach.. :thumb:
Thanks...:flowers::smitten:

SaltyMonkey 14-02-2016 10:36

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Originally Posted by boatman61 (Post 2045749)
Owned her for 1 year this month.. took me from Malta to Sicily, Sardinia, Mallorca, Almerimar etc and up to Fig da Foz.. more boat than I want.. a 30ftr is more my style.. with a tiller:smitten:

Aarrrrgggreeed. But you brought it to a nicey nice location, and brought 'er up some so you should at least ask for somethin'.

Too much boat for a monkey too. 30-34 √ Tiller √√ (but hard to find).

Boaty will find someone.

Ribbit 14-02-2016 10:56

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I suspect wheel steering may be future grounds for me not keeping the boat I am in the process of buying (even though it is my ideal size at 32ft, and I like the layout - well, it's about the same as nearly all boats tbh, beds in the pointy end, toilet handy for in the night, inadequate cupboards close by, seaty bit, cooky bit, then stairs up to work, with another sleepy bit at the bottom of the stairs too).

I wonder if it is horribly expensive to convert one to tiller? Must look into that.

Best of luck with the boat selling boaty. I haven't got a clue what you should be asking for it. The seller of mine was asking a reasonable amount, so I wasn't cheeky, I offered a bit more than a couple not quite as nice went for (worked out at 20% off the asking), and that got a satisfactory response with us meeting in the middle, subject to survey and sea trial (so leeway left still). :smile:

TBH though, what some of the others are expecting to get for what aren't exactly well kept boats, I'd start with an offer at maybe even more than 75% off the asking price. There's a heck of a lot that obviously haven't had any TLC lavished on them since 2008.

boatman61 14-02-2016 11:42

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Its a tough selling ground.. the Portuguese start at 10% asking and work their way up.. :biggrin:

StuM 14-02-2016 14:28

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Thank you. I can now cross this one off my bucket list. :trash:

https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post2045140

JPA Cate 14-02-2016 20:53

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:wink:


MMMMmmmmm Maybe you should ask socaldmax? :biggrin:

Geaux, Boatie!

A

SaltyMonkey 14-02-2016 21:33

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Originally Posted by boatman61 (Post 2045849)
Its a tough selling ground.. the Portuguese start at 10% asking and work their way up.. :biggrin:

Then you need to take it to Scotland. Scots start at 90% OVER asking price and work their way down

jeepbluetj 14-02-2016 22:17

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Originally Posted by boatman61 (Post 2045744)
Did not put 'Needs Work'.. its a boat.:whistling:

Indeed. There should be a word between "needs" and "work" on any boat. Words like "an astonishing amount" or "just the typical" or whatever. It's a boat. (but I bet Boaty's boat is a pretty dang good boat that does not need an astonishing amount of work)

Am I alone or are there others that get all weirded out when Boaty changes his avatar? It's like there's a disruption in the force or something.

StuM 14-02-2016 22:24

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Must say I preferred his previous avatar :)

JPA Cate 15-02-2016 00:02

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Stu, this'll get rid of the new one for you: Oh, Boatie, I LOVE the new blue frock! Bwahahaha! <- was intended as a joke

Ann

DumnMad 15-02-2016 00:11

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Originally Posted by StuM (Post 2046354)
Must say I preferred his previous avatar :)

For some reason I think it should show him up the mast with binoccs in one hand and a bottle of rum in the other :biggrin:

StuM 15-02-2016 02:45

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Originally Posted by Ann T. Cate (Post 2046383)
Stu, this'll get rid of the new one for you: Oh, Boatie, I LOVE the new blue frock! Bwahahaha! <- was intended as a joke

Ann

Yep, it does look rather like one :)


(Steering well clear of any Mo..... Lew...... jokes here)

RKO 15-02-2016 04:39

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I couldn't agree more on the idea of a 30 footer with a tiller. Being fairly rookie, I fi ally worked my way up to 36 feet and the wheel I thought I had to have. Because I can only afford old boats, the 36 feet did nothing but jack up repair costs. The cabin wasn't any bigger than the 29 footer I have now, and man did I miss my tiller.

SaltyMonkey 15-02-2016 07:30

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Originally Posted by Ann T. Cate (Post 2046383)
Stu, this'll get rid of the new one for you: Oh, Boatie, I LOVE the new blue frock! Bwahahaha! <- was intended as a joke

Ann

I disagree with the joke ann. He looks like a NYC Artist.

boatman61 15-02-2016 07:50

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Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey (Post 2046546)
I disagree with the joke ann. He looks like a NYC Artist.

Now That is an insult...:facepalm:
I look nothing like that midget Woody Allen...:banghead:

boatman61 15-02-2016 07:56

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Originally Posted by jeepbluetj (Post 2046346)
Indeed. There should be a word between "needs" and "work" on any boat. Words like "an astonishing amount" or "just the typical" or whatever. It's a boat. (but I bet Boaty's boat is a pretty dang good boat that does not need an astonishing amount of work)

Am I alone or are there others that get all weirded out when Boaty changes his avatar? It's like there's a disruption in the force or something.

Well... Truth be told.. I dare not post an as is now pic.. looks like a bombs hit the interior..:biggrin:
No cushions.. bits in garage's here, there, everywhere and paint, rollers etc.. would take a week to get her to sailaway in an emergency... Armageddon whatever..:biggrin:
But.. I am prepared.. I watch Fox News via SatTv...:thumb:

SaltyMonkey 15-02-2016 08:07

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Originally Posted by boatman61 (Post 2046561)
Now That is an insult...:facepalm:
I look nothing like that midget Woody Allen...:banghead:

I NEVER thought Woody Allen is an artist. I don't even think him as a human being.

SaltyMonkey in coat at Boaty's last exhibit:

https://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...3_2002723b.jpg

Rustic Charm 15-02-2016 09:59

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Originally Posted by boatman61 (Post 2045737)
Its seems to me there's a load of fantasists trotting around making proclamations like..
If a boats advertised in the MED offer 50% less.. they always jack up the price for the sun..
or.. all sellers add 25-50% to get what they want..:rolleyes:
so offer them at least 40% less...:facepalm:
Where are these weird and wonderful things dreamt up...:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
1981 steel Van de Stadt 37 with hull lengthened to facilitate a swim platform resulting in an LOA of 11.9metres.
A sailaway and keep basic or.. a mobile project to mould around you.. steel makes life so easy internal furniture wise.. topsides.. functional but always room for improvement...
StuM... what dya reckon mate...:flowers:
Oppssss.... fore and aft cabin, salon galley and basic head/shower.. sorriiiieeeee

Swim platform is something I have planned for mine one day. A welder (who I didn't use this year for the first time in 4 years) was keen to do it this year, but I've spent enough money painting it.

Down here in Tassie, boat prices seem to routinely have 10k added to the price. I asked about this with Tassie's main boat seller and they said it's due to the 'strait' which is one of the silliest things I've heard. Because of this silly price inflation thing, many boats in Tassie sell exceptionally slowly and I'm talking years. There is a guy at my local marina who had wanted to sell his sloop for $69k for the past 4 years. Asking price is too much, but he won't have a bar of it. Over the past four years that he's been selling it and not using it, he's dished out another $14k in marina fees and hauled last year to antifoul.. :nonono: don't figure.

TrentePieds 15-02-2016 10:00

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"...a 30ftr is more my style.. with a tiller"

Good on yer, Mate :-0)!!

Rustic Charm 15-02-2016 10:00

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Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey (Post 2046574)
I NEVER thought Woody Allen is an artist. I don't even think him as a human being.

SaltyMonkey in coat at Boaty's last exhibit:

Boaty's and artist?

TrentePieds 15-02-2016 10:07

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"I wonder if it is horribly expensive to convert one to tiller? Must look into that."

Can't be all that expensive. Bit of work with a saw and some mat'n'resin. It a job I have to do. Summer after this. Drawings are on the drafting table now.

A wheel is an 'orrible affectation in a thirty-footer!

TrentePieds

hoppy 15-02-2016 10:47

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Boaty, don't forget to mention the recently rebuilt hydraulic steering :biggrin:

Perhaps you should jack up the price an extra 10% for CF members, after all it is an opportunity to buy a "famous" CF yacht :wink:

Regardless, I think you should get back to the boat and take dozens of photos and load them (hi res) to one of the many free blog sites. I think it is crazy to try to sell a boat with a limited number of photos or to not post hi res photos. Add a like to the photos on yachtworld or wherever it is being marketed.

akprb 15-02-2016 11:03

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From my broker days..........."it's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it" :-)

We would generally price a boat close to what we thought was market and then slowly lower until the phone started ringing (along with making sure we were getting the word out which is really easy to do these days!)

All the best!

glenn.225 15-02-2016 11:22

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Got a 27'er with with tiller, even trade:biggrin:. We can meet almost half way, say St. John's, NF.:whistling:

Oh wait, too big for my berth.:frown:

Rockyscience 15-02-2016 11:40

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Originally Posted by StuM (Post 2046354)
Must say I preferred his previous avatar :)

I'll drink to that ! I love steel hulls even if the chine is ugly.I would ask $41k Boatman.:thumb:

reed1v 15-02-2016 13:21

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Probably sell around $24k-32K, depending on location and condition. $16k would probably move the boat within 6 months, again assuming its in good condition.

SniperSailor 15-02-2016 14:04

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Originally Posted by nauticalnomad (Post 2045748)
Rent the thing out Phil, on AirBnB for accommodation where you are..
You'll at least cover your costs for keeping it.

An excellent idea. Ive been staying in AirB&B's during my trip avoiding snow this winter. Have met some interesting people.

Should you decide to sell, Ive learned that there are two prices,

1- The 'Sit' price which is what the owner thinks its worth including his/her emotional ties. It will usually sit until you reach the:

2-'Sell' price, which is the fair maket value, all else considered.

If you start to high you will miss all the folks who are ready to buy and they rarely come back for a second look.

boatman61 15-02-2016 14:35

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Right now its at get my money back price.. but if I start putting some serious effort into it Atoll style it'll go up to at least double..
Just hope a young (to me) carpenter comes along who wants a liveaboard and wants to sail where the timbers good and reasonably priced and a build his dream interior..

StuM 15-02-2016 15:05

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Originally Posted by Rustic Charm (Post 2046677)
Down here in Tassie, boat prices seem to routinely have 10k added to the price. I asked about this with Tassie's main boat seller and they said it's due to the 'strait' which is one of the silliest things I've heard.

Since there are many more potential buyers on the other side of the "strait". I would have thought you should deduct 10K from the price because most purchasers are going to have the expense of getting back to the mainland and thence to wherever they are based.

olaf hart 15-02-2016 15:22

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It will cost more than $10k to get most used boats into a condition to cross Bass Strait.

I have done it three times, and each time involved at least work to the engine and rig, and replacing autopilots.

Rustic Charm 15-02-2016 17:51

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Originally Posted by olaf hart (Post 2046955)
It will cost more than $10k to get most used boats into a condition to cross Bass Strait.

I have done it three times, and each time involved at least work to the engine and rig, and replacing autopilots.

Oh please :nonono:

If you pick your weather Bass Strait can be a dream. It's only when it turns nasty you need the extra. And travelling via the Islands, you can cross Bass Strait and always have land in sight.

Rustic Charm 15-02-2016 17:54

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Originally Posted by StuM (Post 2046940)
Since there are many more potential buyers on the other side of the "strait". I would have thought you should deduct 10K from the price because most purchasers are going to have the expense of getting back to the mainland and thence to wherever they are based.

:thumb: yes me too. I think what they are gambling on is that purchases will come from within Tasmania and not want to travel to the mainland to make a purchase. Which certainly didn't work for me. I very quickly started looking afield. I was willing to purchase from Sydney and Adelaide down. Then picked up what I thought was a bargain from Adelaide. It wasn't in the end, it was fairly priced. But in Tasmania I know it would have been at least 10k more, perhaps as much as 15k more. :nonono:

JPA Cate 15-02-2016 23:45

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Originally Posted by Rustic Charm (Post 2047062)
Oh please :nonono:

If you pick your weather Bass Strait can be a dream. It's only when it turns nasty you need the extra. And travelling via the Islands, you can cross Bass Strait and always have land in sight.

You're right, the Bass Straits crossing can be benign. However, if you're on a schedule, and want to shoot straight up to Sydney, it can be a bear.

We've known a number of folks who island hop across. Never done it ourselves. Mainly hop on a good weather window and truck to Eden, then wait for the next southerly to finish the next hop.

Ann

PS: Boatie, were you really serious about asking for forum input about pricing your boat?????

StuM 15-02-2016 23:51

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Originally Posted by Ann T. Cate (Post 2047221)
PS: Boatie, were you really serious about asking for forum input about pricing your boat?????

I suspect he was merely responding to my comment in another thread to the effect that I'd never seen such a post :)

Rustic Charm 16-02-2016 00:15

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Originally Posted by Ann T. Cate (Post 2047221)
You're right, the Bass Straits crossing can be benign. However, if you're on a schedule, and want to shoot straight up to Sydney, it can be a bear.

We've known a number of folks who island hop across. Never done it ourselves. Mainly hop on a good weather window and truck to Eden, then wait for the next southerly to finish the next hop.

Ann

PS: Boatie, were you really serious about asking for forum input about pricing your boat?????

Oh Ann, are you seriously telling me that of all the times you and Jim have come our way, you havnt stopped at Refuge Bay, or Deal Island or our beautiful Flinders? :nonono:


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