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conachair 08-03-2015 23:35

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Originally Posted by Polux (Post 1768934)
I wonder why you assume I have not been there:

Apologies, getting you mixed up with another poster.

rwidman 09-03-2015 05:28

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Originally Posted by Polux (Post 1769500)
I never used a pumping station and I use the black water tank always when I am at an anchorage or marina. Like most I empty the black water tank offshore.

:thumb::thumb::thumb:

Your poop can mix with that of the fish and marine mammals. Away from other boaters, swimmers and homeowners. Nature will take care of it.

boatman61 09-03-2015 05:49

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Yeah well... you have the FDA..
and they'll say anything to boost Pharmacutical sales by spreadung paranoia..
Take this to feel better.. but.. it could blind you, destroy your kidneys and liver, heart failure etc... but you'll be okay for a bike ride...:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggri n:
The sea's a boogered not because of sailors poop.. or even their AF.. its the frickin toxins sold by Monsanto, ICI etc for agriculture which then wash off into streams, rivers etc..
But.. for a some on here that'd affect their stocks n shares quite likely so... push the blame elsewhere..
Rising Asthma etc is still used to beat up the smoker.. despite falling sales.. funny no ones concerned about the black particles floating out of motor exhausts into the faces of kids in trendy buggies at exhaust level.. great for Mom n Dads fashion cred.. but a pretty crappy life for the kid.. and pretty crappy for adults to.. but hell.. we grew up in clean air so are more able to deal with it.
But no... lets stay petty.. more profits..
Sheeesshhhh... :facepalm:

Polux 09-03-2015 10:06

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Originally Posted by conachair (Post 1769558)
Apologies, getting you mixed up with another poster.

No need to but nice of you:flowers:

Kenomac 10-03-2015 10:32

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Originally Posted by rwidman (Post 1768398)
I'm not going to stay away as a favor to you or anyone. I have no desire to go there and plenty to see on my side of the ocean.

If you choose to come here, just be aware that there are laws for boat sanitary systems and they are enforced. Your boat can be boarded by armed officers and the sanitary system can be inspected. There are some pretty big fines for non-compliance. :nonono:

That's why I'll continue to cruise where common sense prevails, in pristine waters and far away from the poop police. The mullets and I will be smiling later today when I flush.

weavis 10-03-2015 10:33

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Originally Posted by Kenomac (Post 1771024)
That's why I'll continue to cruise where common sense prevails, in pristine waters and far away from the poop police. The mullets and I will be smiling later today when I flush.

I think you and I need to have a talk about the smiling Mullet ........ :whistling:

:thumb:

Kenomac 10-03-2015 10:44

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Smiling because we're in a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship. Neither of us listening or caring at all what the greenies think about us.

weavis 10-03-2015 10:48

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Originally Posted by Kenomac (Post 1771041)
Smiling because we're in a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship. Neither of us listening or caring at all what the greenies think about us.

Guess it saves on a bag of fishfood.........


:smile:

Barra 10-03-2015 21:50

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Funny thread - thanks for the chuckles guys.

Like others have said in practice pump outs dont happen (even in Turkey barring Gocek) and yet the water looks at least cleaner than anywhere ive sailed.
Been in french marinas for months at a time and hardly ever seen the pump out stations used which meant when i dropped my best fishing rod over the side while berthed and had to swim down to get it out of the "mud" I felt the need to cleanse my mouth with a few shots of rum afterwards...

Sailing proverb - If the fish are fat and the marina toilets are closed dont swim in the marina

Prairie Chicken 11-03-2015 03:59

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I'm thankful for this thread as I now know what those fat fish are. Mullet--didn't know that before!

boatman61 11-03-2015 04:52

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Originally Posted by weavis (Post 1771029)
I think you and I need to have a talk about the smiling Mullet ........ :whistling:

:thumb:

Weavis.. got a bit of news for you.. where do you think the 'free fish tapa's' thats served to tourists comes from... the marinas..:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

weavis 11-03-2015 04:57

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Originally Posted by boatman61 (Post 1771740)
Weavis.. got a bit of news for you.. where do you think the 'free fish tapa's' thats served to tourists comes from... the marinas..:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

You should see what they put on spuds..... :whistling:

Polux 15-03-2015 06:04

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Originally Posted by Prairie Chicken (Post 1771699)
I'm thankful for this thread as I now know what those fat fish are. Mullet--didn't know that before!

Beware, here we don't eat them but in Greece I see lots of them being sold to tourists. You can end up eating your own ****:biggrin:

Prairie Chicken 15-03-2015 06:14

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Thanks Polux but no risk. I know where those guys live and what they look like!

Kenomac 15-03-2015 07:39

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Originally Posted by Prairie Chicken (Post 1771699)
I'm thankful for this thread as I now know what those fat fish are. Mullet--didn't know that before!

They can grow to an enormous size in America.

Prairie Chicken 15-03-2015 08:17

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They can grow to an enormous size in America.
How can that be Ken? Apparently they don't 'feed' them in America. :biggrin:

sestina 31-03-2015 05:21

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At night I'll use the head rather than traipse up to the ablution block. My holding tank is for emergencies only. My marina has an average tidal range of 3.5m to wash things away. Thankfully we are upstream of the main sewage plant, which pongs abobominably at times, usually of detergents.

I regularly see an otter, swiming through the marina, so I guess the water quality is pretty good.

I can't see holding tanks getting much use in France. They have a much more robust attitude to poo.

Polux 31-03-2015 07:20

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Originally Posted by sestina (Post 1789562)
At night I'll use the head rather than traipse up to the ablution block. My holding tank is for emergencies only. ...

If something comes out of this thread is that many that have holding tanks on their boats rarely use them and that the several states that forbidden the dishware of any **** on territorial waters are not taken seriously.

When the RCD, more then 10 years ago, made mandatory the installation of holding tanks on cruising boats they assumed sailors would use them. Since it was not the case (with many users) the RCD has been changed:

"Any toilet fitted in a recreational craft shall be connected solely to a holding tank system or water treatment system."

That means now everybody has to use the holding tank since a Y connection is forbidden. No direct connection from the head to the sea.

I hope this will better the situation because if the situation of disposing of **** on marinas or near the shore will continue the next steep is obvious and it will be a self contained boat with the holding tank only being emptied by a pumping station facility. Then it would be very difficult to pollute the water with ****.

I really hope that they don't need to go that far to assure that all kip their **** away from the shores, but that is not up to them but to cruisers that have already the means to do that ....and in many cases refuse to do so.

rwidman 01-04-2015 12:24

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What's an "RCD"?

jeepbluetj 01-04-2015 12:29

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Originally Posted by Polux (Post 1789639)
forbidden the dishware of any **** on territorial waters...

Auto spell correct that needs to go to the Joke Thread... This was downright hilarious.

BTW, I don't dishware any sh:t either. It's not a good idea.

Polux 02-04-2015 08:07

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Originally Posted by jeepbluetj (Post 1790724)
Auto spell correct that needs to go to the Joke Thread... This was downright hilarious.

BTW, I don't dishware any sh:t either. It's not a good idea.

I noticed the mistake but no way to correct after some time. Obviously I meant to say discharge and I guess most would have understood. Yes you are correct: bad use of auto spell.

Polux 02-04-2015 08:11

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Originally Posted by rwidman (Post 1790717)
What's an "RCD"?

RCD means Recreational Craft Directive: All boats built or sold on Europe have to be built according a long set of rules that are expressed on the RCD.

As Europe is the leader in what regards sailing boats production RCD mandatory rules tend to become almost universal rules that are adopted by all industry.

SaltyMetals 20-05-2015 10:50

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This is a truly disgusting habit, not to use their holding tank if they have it, or worse still not to have a holding tank at all. Some countries are catching up and making it mandatory to have and to USE IT.

Kenomac, as a contributor to this thread, has an Oyster 53 which I know having owned one for about 6 yr, has it fitted as standard. But do these guys use their holding tanks or simply let their **** drift down in an anchorage onto others below them who think they are swimming in charmingly clear water. Until they see a turd floating by. Truly disgusting.


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