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Alenka 27-11-2013 03:37

Greek 'Pay as You Go' Data sim card
 
Can anyone recommend a good deal for a 'Pay as You Go' data sim card for Greece.

My intention is to install a mobile Wifi hub for internet use and then use 'Viber' for telephone calls.

I don't really want to pay for telephone minutes as I will never use them.

Thanks

beneteau-500 27-11-2013 03:44

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I use the vodafone package you can get a wifi transmitter thing ma jig its about half the size of a blackberry phone and can connect up to five devices to it it costs about 40 euros a month for I think up to 4 gb of data i used it every day for internet and used it to connect to skype to make phone calls

miyagimoon 27-11-2013 03:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alenka (Post 1401167)
Can anyone recommend a good deal for a 'Pay as You Go' data sim card for Greece.

My intention is to install a mobile Wifi hub for internet use and then use 'Viber' for telephone calls.

I don't really want to pay for telephone minutes as I will never use them.

Thanks

We use Cosmote. The best coverage comes from Cosmote followed probably by Vodafone then Wind.

You will need to purchase a USB WIFI Dongle about 30 Euro, Cosmote will charge 20 euro for 5GB (30 days) or 15 Euro for 2GB, Pay as you Go.

We do similar but use skype for telephone calls.

miyagimoon 27-11-2013 03:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beneteau-500 (Post 1401171)
I use the vodafone package you can get a wifi transmitter thing ma jig its about half the size of a blackberry phone and can connect up to five devices to it it costs about 40 euros a month for I think up to 4 gb of data i used it every day for internet and used it to connect to skype to make phone calls

Hi Dale,

How you doing. Send me a PM I'll update you on what everyone is up to.

Albert

beneteau-500 27-11-2013 04:04

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ok fat albert i am now ok sought of have lost part use of right arm at moment

PhilDuhs 27-11-2013 04:12

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If you can have multiple people on a PM add me to the conversation - would love to catch up on what's been going on. Phil.

Jacques2 27-11-2013 04:23

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You do not need to buy a dongle !
With COMSMOTE, you buy only the prepaid SIM card (the one for data only) and then, on your smartphone or tablet, you can activate "connection sharing" and it will work (wifi) with 4 other items...
We did it last spring, no problem, 2 or 5 Go, and something like 20 € a month

PhilDuhs 27-11-2013 04:28

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I do the same Jacques2 with Vodafone - means you need a spare phone though, or be willing to give up your "home" SIM card while the phone's being used with the Greek one. Some USB dongles work with multiple countries SIM cards so would be worth testing what you have already before paying for a new dongle. Another reason Vodafone is good - they're in multiple countries and one dongle will serve multiple SIM's as you travel around...

Jacques2 27-11-2013 04:36

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OK, it depends on the use you have. As i am concerned, I put the Cosmote SIM card in my iPad, so I can still use my iPhone for phoing function (without removing my SFR - french - Sim card inside) if necessary... When in Italy I buy a Vodaphone SIM card for the iPad, and so on...

miyagimoon 27-11-2013 10:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacques2 (Post 1401182)
You do not need to buy a dongle !
With COMSMOTE, you buy only the prepaid SIM card (the one for data only) and then, on your smartphone or tablet, you can activate "connection sharing" and it will work (wifi) with 4 other items...
We did it last spring, no problem, 2 or 5 Go, and something like 20 € a month

What happens if you are not an up to date trendy sailor and do not own a smart phone of tablet? Dongle me thinks!!:devil:

Jacques2 27-11-2013 15:23

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What is the use of a SIM data card if you have no smartphone or tablet ?

miyagimoon 27-11-2013 16:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacques2 (Post 1401627)
What is the use of a SIM data card if you have no smartphone or tablet ?

I'm not a telecoms expert and may be wrong. But I do believe that you need a Sim card to use in either a usb 3g / 4g dongle or a smartphone / tablet. The OP did not specify what it was to be used in.

I may be wrong but I also believe that a DATA Sim Card and a Sim Card are the same thing.

Alenka 27-11-2013 16:48

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Thanks to everyone for the comments.

Just to clarify…

I'm going to be using one of those stand alone hub thingies so that more than one person can access the internet and I don't want to be swapping sims in my phone. The cost is minimal for the device.

I use around 400megs of data a month and as I only spend around 8 weeks on the boat a monthly contract is a bit of overkill so 'pay as you go' works for me at €15 for 2Gb.

I asked the question because I was told that data only sims are not really that popular in some countries and not easy to come by. I don't want a standard sim that gives 100 mins of talk time, 500 SMS messages and just 250 megs of data
because i would be paying for elemens that would never get used.

Thanks again

goboatingnow 27-11-2013 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alenka (Post 1401679)
Thanks to everyone for the comments.

Just to clarify…

I'm going to be using one of those stand alone hub thingies so that more than one person can access the internet and I don't want to be swapping sims in my phone. The cost is minimal for the device.

I use around 400megs of data a month and as I only spend around 8 weeks on the boat a monthly contract is a bit of overkill so 'pay as you go' works for me at €15 for 2Gb.

I asked the question because I was told that data only sims are not really that popular in some countries and not easy to come by. I don't want a standard sim that gives 100 mins of talk time, 500 SMS messages and just 250 megs of data
because i would be paying for elemens that would never get used.

Thanks again

Why do you think standard sims give that setup. It varies all over the place.

Dave

goboatingnow 27-11-2013 18:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by miyagimoon (Post 1401659)

I'm not a telecoms expert and may be wrong. But I do believe that you need a Sim card to use in either a usb 3g / 4g dongle or a smartphone / tablet. The OP did not specify what it was to be used in.

I may be wrong but I also believe that a DATA Sim Card and a Sim Card are the same thing.

Technically there is no difference , but SIM cards can be provisioned to have voice 2G 3G or other selectable combinations. However some " data cards " Are provisioned for voice. Also data cards tend to be provisioned to prioritise 3G , wherease voice cards may not. Depends on the operators priority.

Note many providers will tell you you have to have data SIM cards in tablets. Generally not true.

Dave

Alenka 28-11-2013 01:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goboatingnow (Post 1401763)
Why do you think standard sims give that setup. It varies all over the place.

Dave

Thanks dave,

I appreciate deals vary. What I was trying to put over is that I don't want a deal that offers voice and SMS that I will never use.

It seems most people in the Greek region are suggesting the COMSMOTE network.

Jacques2 28-11-2013 01:49

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OK, what you are looking for is called a "Pocket wifi" by Cosmote in Greece :

COSMOTE

Alenka 28-11-2013 02:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacques2 (Post 1401962)
OK, what you are looking for is called a "Pocket wifi" by Cosmote in Greece :

COSMOTE

Thanks Jacques,

If it allows around four people to log on then it could be perfect for my needs.

Cheers

beneteau-500 28-11-2013 02:18

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infact on noosite a yachtie has posted the same thing i use a voda phone modem which i found great

Jacques2 28-11-2013 02:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alenka (Post 1401964)
Thanks Jacques,

If it allows around four people to log on then it could be perfect for my needs.

Cheers

Yes it allows 4 other devices to be connected.

miyagimoon 28-11-2013 03:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alenka (Post 1401956)
Thanks dave,

I appreciate deals vary. What I was trying to put over is that I don't want a deal that offers voice and SMS that I will never use.

It seems most people in the Greek region are suggesting the COMSMOTE network.

As I said in my first response. Cosmote have the best coverage, which is why most people in Greece use it.

We actually us their USB Dongle along with this TL-MR3020 - Welcome to TP-LINK. That way we can have multiple users no matter who'se network we are on.

N.B Some networks will only work using thier dongle / mifi. Turkcell is one for example.

Chris Robb 04-12-2013 10:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by miyagimoon (Post 1401997)
As I said in my first response. Cosmote have the best coverage, which is why most people in Greece use it.

We actually us their USB Dongle along with this TL-MR3020 - Welcome to TP-LINK. That way we can have multiple users no matter who'se network we are on.

N.B Some networks will only work using thier dongle / mifi. Turkcell is one for example.

Go for Cosmote, especially if its data you want. We were scarcely without 3G in the summer all the way from Ionionian to Leros. Before we have had Wind in the Cyclades which we found never had much better than the old GPRS system and pretty useless and last year we used Vodafone which was better but no where near Cosmote which picked up a strong data signal on Levitia presumably from miles away - Kalymnos perhaps?

Yofy 19-01-2014 04:30

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We used a WIND SIM card last summer with terrible results. Never could Skype. We wrote a blog about the whole thing we were so frustrated.

Good to hear there are better alternatives.
Robyn

Palarran 19-01-2014 07:07

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Alenka, When will you be returning to Greece? I need the exact same thing as your looking for. Would it be too much to post your results when you get it connected. They should have a Cosmote store in Messolonghi so I can get one when we arrive in May.

Alenka 19-01-2014 09:13

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Alas I won't be back on board until early May myself, but I will definately post findings once I am up and running.

Zai 19-01-2014 09:57

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We have been using a Cosmote 3G dongle for the past three years with no problems and VERY good coverage.
It is called "Internet on the go" and it costs 40 euro for the dongle and 40 euro for 30 days of access. As long as you use it at least once a year you don't need a new sim card.

Alenka 19-01-2014 10:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zai (Post 1444474)
We have been using a Cosmote 3G dongle for the past three years with no problems and VERY good coverage.
It is called "Internet on the go" and it costs 40 euro for the dongle and 40 euro for 30 days of access. As long as you use it at least once a year you don't need a new sim card.

Thanks for the info. I won't be giving it that much use to justify €40 pm. I will doing pay as you go.

Actually, compared to what I pay at home for ultra-fast broadband and my monthly iPhone package I think €40 pm is very steep!

Alenka 20-08-2014 02:05

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It's been a while since I visited the forum, but here goes with an update on my wifi onboard experiences.

First up if you are going down this route in Greece I CANNOT RECOMMEND Cosmote.

Yes they do have the best coverage but that's (for me) where it ends.

Day 1

Walked my feet off looking for the Cosmote shop - Guess what it doesn't say Cosmote on the outside!

Day 2

Better directions from shopkeepers in the area and found the shop but it closed at 14.00 for the day!

Day 3

Returned bright and early got a very brief overview about the mifi hardware I was looking for, but they couldn't sell it to me because you need your passport to sign up.

Day 4

Returned with passport. Transaction took an age, mainly because freinds and family kept coming through the shop and everything stopped whilst they had a chat!
Assured the box contained English instructions and pushed out the door with pay-as-you-go sim card and hardware.

Back at boat. The instructions inside the boxes are in Greek only! Managed to find English translations on the web at a nearby wifi cafe.

NB. This is not a plug and play system. First you must deactive the pin code on the sim card for which you will need an unlocked mobile phone, plus you need to know your way around the security menus on said phone.

Several hours later and with the sim security de-activated it was time to put the sim into the wifi device. Guess what, the adapter supplied didn't want to fit.

Day 5

Back to the shop. Please make this work and I am not leaving until you do. (first they had to sort out a German couple with excatly the same problem).
Making the sim fit was no problem for them - They forced it! It went in and I suspect it will never come out again, well not in one piece.
As you might expect setting it up was no problem for them either - they spoke Greek.
Checked iPad and iPhone in shop to make sure it would indeed work with both but when I asked about topping up online I was told it was not a good system. Sometimes your cedit card would be debited but your phone won't get the extra data you paid for - Advised only to buy top-ups in Cosmote shop!

When I said this wouldn't always be possible they were at a loss to suggest an alternative method. It took another customer to point out that all the little newsagent kiosks sold top up cards.

Having a Wifi network on the boat that we could all use at the same time is great. Well it was for 4 weeks until the sim had to be topped up (time limited). With top up cards in hand I went onto the english website of Cosmote and accessed 'My Cosmote' to access my account. The page that came up was in Greek! No english version!!
Even using Google translate to change it to English made little sense and when I entered my password details (as agreed in the shop) I was duly informed I didn't exist.

The couple on the boat alongside nodded their heads in sympathy. They have had all the same problems. They gave up with pay-as-you-go and signed up for yearly contract even though they only spend 5 months a year onboard.

Cosmote shops are few and far between in the Greek islands so I am now on the hunt for one that can get me up and working again.

One last sting in the tail. If I go more than 90 days without a top-up the sim card is cancelled and you have to start all over again!

Think I will check out Vodafone. If nothing else they seem to have far more shops than Cosmote!

monte 20-08-2014 02:08

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The best site for finding data sim details by country.
https://prepaidwithdata.wikia.com/wik..._SIM_with_data

Alenka 20-08-2014 02:46

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Originally Posted by monte (Post 1609651)
The best site for finding data sim details by country.
Pay as you go sim with data Wiki

Thanks for the info.

Note at the top that says you must provide proof of identity, this means Passport if you are not Greek. Other forms of photo ID are not accepted.

I'm back in the UK and looking at the deals where I can change my plan to operate in Europe and pay £2 per day but get the same free calls and data I would here. Using an iPhone as a network might not be the cheapest but it might be the less stress option.

There's a sort of irony to all of this. In most of Europe you can't buy a toaster without an getting an instruction book that covers every language going. But trying to get a simple sim card from Cosmote, the biggest phone company in Greece, that's a different story.

monte 20-08-2014 02:50

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Most countries we insert the data sim in an iPhone. Often the sales people think it won't work and needs to be in an iPad or dongle, but it ALWAYS works. We then have data and Skype while out and about and use it in personal hotspot mode to share on board.
Often the companies also state it can't be used as a hotspot or for VoIP calls such as Skype, but again, it always works.

Alenka 20-08-2014 03:20

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That's worth taking note of.

From July of next year (or thereabouts) roaming in Europe will be abolished and costs will be the same as for use in your home (european) country.
Seemingly the EU are fed up with phone companies ripping people off and the practice is stiffling investment in the industry.

4G is now far more common in Africa than in the Euro zone.

goboatingnow 20-08-2014 03:42

Greek 'Pay as You Go' Data sim card
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alenka (Post 1609675)
That's worth taking note of.



From July of next year (or thereabouts) roaming in Europe will be abolished and costs will be the same as for use in your home (european) country.

Seemingly the EU are fed up with phone companies ripping people off and the practice is stiffling investment in the industry.



4G is now far more common in Africa than in the Euro zone.


Absolute rot. Currently 4g in Europe is expected to hit 5% by end 2014 and 30% by 2020. Africa ( including Middle East btw ) is currently less then .5% and expected to be 5-7% by 2020 ( source statisica.com)

4G is in fact not an indication of anything

Dave

Alenka 20-08-2014 03:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goboatingnow (Post 1609690)
Absolute rot. Currently 4g in Europe is expected to hit 5% by end 2014 and 30% by 2020. Africa ( including Middle East btw ) is currently less then .5% and expected to be 5-7% by 2020 ( source statisica.com)

4G is in fact not an indication of anything

Dave

Ohh.. So the business editor of the Daily Telegraph is wrong. I will let him know if I bump into him!!

NornaBiron 25-08-2014 00:02

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In defence of Cosmote:

We purchased a PAYG sim on Symi last week. The guy in the shop was not at all helpful but once we got back to the boat and fitted the sim to our mifi the process to unlock and get going was very simple. We had to go out again to buy €30 of credit from the kiosk and then put this on our account. Once done we were able to purchase 5Gb/30 days coverage very simply.

In order to find cosmote you need to look for 'Germanos' or a multi network shop.

We tried a Wind sim the week before, the guy in the shop was the most unhelpful it is possible to be and the coverage was terrible. We haven't tried Vodafone.

We have good coverage even in a remote anchorage

Alenka 25-08-2014 00:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NornaBiron (Post 1613257)
In defence of Cosmote:

We purchased a PAYG sim on Symi last week. The guy in the shop was not at all helpful but once we got back to the boat and fitted the sim to our mifi the process to unlock and get going was very simple. We had to go out again to buy €30 of credit from the kiosk and then put this on our account. Once done we were able to purchase 5Gb/30 days coverage very simply.

In order to find cosmote you need to look for 'Germanos' or a multi network shop.

We tried a Wind sim the week before, the guy in the shop was the most unhelpful it is possible to be and the coverage was terrible. We haven't tried Vodafone.

We have good coverage even in a remote anchorage

Are you using an unlocked mifi device? I was told there is no way to unlock the sim on the Cosmote device and I needed an unlocked mobile phone to do it.

I have to agree the coverage is very good and hardly ever loses the signal but as you point out customer service is terrible. I cannot remember ever walking into a mobile phone shop elsewhere and not had sales people falling over themselves to sell me something.

I return to the boat in a couple of weeks and the girls in the chandlers say they will try and track down my account and top me up so I don't have to go hunting for another Germanos/Cosmote shop.

Personally, I have always been against wifi extenders. Somehow it doesn't feel right to use someones free wifi when I am not a paying cutomer in their coffee shop, but had I known about the effort required to use mifi in Greece I might have reconsidered.

NornaBiron 25-08-2014 00:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alenka (Post 1613264)
Are you using an unlocked mifi device? I was told there is no way to unlock the sim on the Cosmote device and I needed an unlocked mobile phone to do it.

I have to agree the coverage is very good and hardly ever loses the signal but as you point out customer service is terrible. I cannot remember ever walking into a mobile phone shop elsewhere and not had sales people falling over themselves to sell me something

We are using an unlocked mifi that we were given when we had a Wind contract last year.

We've had a few incidents with Germanos/Cosmote customer service. One guy told us that the head office had not e-mailed about our account whilst I was standing looking at the said e-mail! If you can get help from a Greek speaking person it all becomes much easier!

glkap 18-09-2016 03:10

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It's quite long time since last post in the current discussion, but I'd like to inform you about WiZiFi service currently offered in Greece, including rental of 4G MiFi device and "unlimited" Internet access, charged in daily basis.
In fact FUP is applied allowing full 4G speed for up to 1 GB per day, reducing the connection speed for the rest of the day, when volume limit is exceeded. Still connectivity is available at throttled speed. Everyday at midnight the speed is recovered to 4G.
MiFis and data SIM cards could be ordered online, or through their partners across Greece, and they are delivered at any address in Greece including hotels, enterprises, or apartments. Customers can also pick-up and drop-offtheirpackages from/at more than 180 PDPs (pick-up/drop-off points) across the country.
WiZiFi MiFi offers 4G/LTE Internet access up to 150 Mbps and allow to connect up to 10 devices for more than 10 hours of operation. The MiFi is easily fully recharged in about 2 hours. Optionally power bank battery and car charger could be rent extending outdoor life time.
Check their website wizifi.eu for applied daily rates.


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