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rebel heart 14-08-2013 21:00

A Decent "Bluewater Boat" List
 
Rather than rattle off what is and what isn't, I thought this list is rather telling. It's Latitude 38's partial list of circumnavigators. I'd submit that if you can see a boat appear several times on this list, well, there you go.

Latitude 38 - West Coast Circumnavigators' List

A quick check:

- 0 catalinas
- 2 hunters
- 2 jeanneaus
- 3 beneteaus

- 11 valiants

nbourbaki 14-08-2013 21:23

Not knowing or caring too much about specific brands or boats I am most impressed by the sheer variety of boats that have done it! I am surprised how few catamarans. Would this look different if not west coast based?

rebel heart 14-08-2013 21:40

Re: A Decent "Bluewater Boat" List
 
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Originally Posted by nbourbaki (Post 1312341)
Not knowing or caring too much about specific brands or boats I am most impressed by the sheer variety of boats that have done it! I am surprised how few catamarans. Would this look different if not west coast based?

I'm sure it would, and it's quite US-centric as well (obviously).

I agree on the variety though, everything from 90' custom steel schooners down to little Nor'Sea 27's.

One thing I thought was weird was some of the <2 year circumnavigations. That's pretty quick.

neilpride 14-08-2013 21:43

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This list is just a small portion of the cake,,, Mostly a west coast sailors list, and we know this dudes dont choose often a bene for a RTW, anyway, whats the point???:whistling:

rebel heart 14-08-2013 21:45

Re: A Decent "Bluewater Boat" List
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neilpride (Post 1312347)
This list is just a small portion of the cake,,, Mostly a west coast sailors list, and we know this dudes dont choose often a bene for a RTW, anyway, whats the point???:whistling:

The countless "what's a good bluewater boat" question.

rebel heart 14-08-2013 21:49

Re: A Decent "Bluewater Boat" List
 
Two Albin Vegas 27's!

neilpride 14-08-2013 21:57

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Okey, in that case i pick the swan 65!!:D not kiding , the west coast is a popular place to wacht truly wonderfull boats... Look mama a westsail 28 doing a circun:deadhorsebeat:navigation!! wow Nuts!!!!

o_q 14-08-2013 22:15

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Originally Posted by neilpride (Post 1312355)
:deadhorsebeat:navigation!! wow Nuts!!!!

Are you hitting that horse in the nuts?

zboss 15-08-2013 12:18

Re: A Decent "Bluewater Boat" List
 
I am surprised there are no Cabo Ricos' Listed :(

beverley 15-08-2013 12:35

Re: A Decent "Bluewater Boat" List
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rebel heart (Post 1312333)
Rather than rattle off what is and what isn't, I thought this list is rather telling. It's Latitude 38's partial list of circumnavigators. I'd submit that if you can see a boat appear several times on this list, well, there you go.

Just out of curiosity, how many Hans Christian 36's?

:whistling:

(Not that I can actually whistle!)

Celestialsailor 16-08-2013 16:17

Re: A Decent "Bluewater Boat" List
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zboss (Post 1313021)
I am surprised there are no Cabo Ricos' Listed :(

me too since I will be looking at them in a few years.
But really...there have been coastal craft that have done it under 30. But...experienced and a little crazy types.

OutOfControl 16-08-2013 16:27

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"Just out of curiosity, how many Hans Christian 36's?"

:whistling:

beverly, looks like 0 from the list provided at Latitude 38.

Earl, Harley & Jennifer / Sausalito / 2004-06 / Hans Christian 41 / Manu Kai

Ellison, Buddy & Ruth / San Francisco / 1996-2007 / Hans Christian 48 / Annapurna

Gillespie, Ty & Helen / San Francisco / 1990-96 / Hans Christian 38 / Azura

OutOfControl

barnakiel 16-08-2013 16:53

Re: A Decent "Bluewater Boat" List
 
I think the list would be hundreds of makes long. Maybe an easier task make a list of boats that are not decent. (?)

I would be very reluctant to say a boat is a decent bluewater boat only because someone rtwed in one.

b.

Rhapsody-NS27 16-08-2013 17:48

Re: A Decent "Bluewater Boat" List
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rebel heart (Post 1312346)
down to little Nor'Sea 27's.

I saw two of them on the list, but I've heard there are 4 total that have gone around. One of them, I believe, may have taken 10yrs or so. Not sure of the others.

rebel heart 16-08-2013 19:51

Re: A Decent "Bluewater Boat" List
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barnakiel (Post 1314213)
I think the list would be hundreds of makes long. Maybe an easier task make a list of boats that are not decent. (?)

I would be very reluctant to say a boat is a decent bluewater boat only because someone rtwed in one.

b.

I think the value of this list is that "decent" and "sub par" are pretty subjective, so rather this is a rather empirical list that although not complete or finite by any means, is at least some hard facts in a land of opinion.

And to whomever asked "how many hc 36's", there's a union polaris 36 on the list which is the same boat, and then several other hans christians. The 36 was a very small production run.

capttman 17-08-2013 05:08

Hey I look at it this way, most boats can do a circumnavigation if you look at it as a bunch of day trips strung together... Who cares how long it takes you have to get a weather window sooner or later

Kenomac 17-08-2013 05:23

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Silly list in many ways, as it seems to only be USA inclusive. No Oysters that I could quickly see on the list even though over a 100 who have done the trip in addition to the 36 doing it now. If the list was more real world based, I think you'd see more catamarans, Hallberg Rassys and other European models included. Even more Hans Christians, as I know of one friend making the trip very slowly on a HC43.

The Australians seem to be all over the world on boats, primarily catamarans it seems.

Jim Cate 17-08-2013 07:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenomac (Post 1314537)
Silly list in many ways, as it seems to only be USA inclusive. No Oysters that I could quickly see on the list even though over a 100 who have done the trip in addition to the 36 doing it now. If the list was more real world based, I think you'd see more catamarans, Hallberg Rassys and other European models included. Even more Hans Christians, as I know of one friend making the trip very slowly on a HC43.

The Australians seem to be all over the world on boats, primarily catamarans it seems.

The list being USA inclusive is not too surprising since it is a compilation of West Coast based circumnavigators. One would not expect to find non-USA vessels listed. It is published by Latitude 38 which is a San Francisco Bay area based magazine.

Jim

David_Old_Jersey 17-08-2013 07:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Cate (Post 1314654)
The list being USA inclusive is not too surprising since it is a compilation of West Coast based circumnavigators. One would not expect to find non-USA vessels listed. It is published by Latitude 38 which is a San Francisco Bay area based magazine.

Jim

+1

And I don't read that as being stereotypically parochial ("they also make boats in Yourope?" :p) - just aimed at their readership, be stupid to do otherwise.

Gadagirl 17-08-2013 09:16

Re: A Decent "Bluewater Boat" List
 
About half way down this page there is quite a longer list;
Mahina Expedition - Selecting A Boat for Offshore Cruising

and an extensive conversation here,
Updated Offshore Cruising Boat List - January 2008 - SailNet Community

Celestialsailor 17-08-2013 11:07

Re: A Decent "Bluewater Boat" List
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadagirl (Post 1314758)
About half way down this page there is quite a longer list;
Mahina Expedition - Selecting A Boat for Offshore Cruising

and an extensive conversation here,
Updated Offshore Cruising Boat List - January 2008 - SailNet Community

I've seen the Mahina list before and think it's a good one since that's all John Neal has ever done is cruise.

SkiprJohn 17-08-2013 12:11

Re: A Decent "Bluewater Boat" List
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rebel heart (Post 1312333)
Rather than rattle off what is and what isn't, I thought this list is rather telling. It's Latitude 38's partial list of circumnavigators. I'd submit that if you can see a boat appear several times on this list, well, there you go.

Latitude 38 - West Coast Circumnavigators' List

A quick check:

- 0 catalinas
- 2 hunters
- 2 jeanneaus
- 3 beneteaus

- 11 valiants

Lots of Cals there, Columbia, Coronado, Cascade but no Catalinas. Interesting list. Even has a wood Folkboat and a Contessa 26.

svmariane 17-08-2013 13:27

Re: A Decent "Bluewater Boat" List
 
Just to add to the mix, check these
10 Best Sailboats: You Have Not Heard Of (But Should Know) - Waves Jordan Yacht Brokerage

That they included my Celestial 48 didn't influence me to make this post whatsoever.... :whistling: :whistling:

Krogensailor 17-08-2013 15:29

Re: A Decent "Bluewater Boat" List
 
I made the list! Kadey/Krogen 38

SkiprJohn 17-08-2013 15:47

Re: A Decent "Bluewater Boat" List
 
I really never considered circumnavigation with my fin keel Catalina 22 anyway. Probably could have in my Mariner 35 Garden ketch but it was never a goal of mine. Could still do it in my current Cascade if I ever get it seaworthy again. It still wouldn't be a goal of mine.


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