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24-02-2015, 14:26
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Samyoed on boat in caribbean
Any one has experience Have a Samoyed on board.
Just dun know if they can cope with the wet salty environment
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24-02-2015, 15:15
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Re: Samyoed on boat in caribbean
We have a samoyed, lab, husky mix who hates boats and water. Makes it tough. Hopefully yours will like it more.
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24-02-2015, 15:57
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Re: Samyoed on boat in caribbean
Our Sammy never adjusted to warm/hot weather or confined spaces and hated being onboard. Wrong breed for a boat dog. They love cold and running as they were originally bred in Siberia.
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24-02-2015, 16:01
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Re: Samyoed on boat in caribbean
Our Sammy hates being outside in the Florida heat. Tried taking him out on a sail once and he was miserable.
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24-02-2015, 16:14
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Re: Samyoed on boat in caribbean
Hot, wet, salty, sandy fur will lead to a sick dog with skin infections and a miserable stench aboard the yacht. BTDT. Don't even think about it. For your own sake but even more so, for the dog's.
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24-02-2015, 17:07
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Re: Samyoed on boat in caribbean
If this is a serious question, talk to your vet about how to help the dog through it. For instance, a fresh water rinse off after swimming. You don't want to bathe a dog too much, they need their natural skin oils, and a Samoyed, like the other working snow dogs, is double coated and relies on oil for a tad of waterproofness. I did meet one in a warm humid environment, whose hair was trimmed, like a "butch" haircut. He was getting on just fine.
Dogs foot pads are tough, but also slippery, your dog may not like sailing at all. My Malemute, another snow working dog breed, used to suffer from motion sickness. Don't know about a Sammy.
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24-02-2015, 23:39
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Re: Samyoed on boat in caribbean
Thx all. I think it is tough for my dog too. We had him in hongkong in an apartment n we moved to Vancouver. Yes. He like cold weather.
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25-02-2015, 00:44
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Re: Samyoed on boat in caribbean
Here's our chow/shepherd bitsa with a summer cut and her winter coat for contrast...
Brought her to Singapore she definitely sought out the air conditioner. Taking her for walks was cruel and unusual punishment. "Why are you doing this to me?"
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25-02-2015, 10:39
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Re: Samyoed on boat in caribbean
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Originally Posted by Gpolar
Any one has experience Have a Samoyed on board.
Just dun know if they can cope with the wet salty environment
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Don't do it to the poor animal. They are not made for the tropics.
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27-02-2015, 15:54
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Re: Samyoed on boat in caribbean
I'm a longtime Samoyed owner and a lifetime sailor. A few years back, we had one of the top winning Samoyeds in the US. We live in South Texas.
Unlike some think, Samoyeds actually do quite well in warm weather. Dogs don't sweat like people. They cool through the pads on their feet, and by panting. A well insulated dog will do better in the heat than one that has been shaved, AS LONG AS they don't get overheated to start with, and they have plenty of fresh cool water. Their white coat reflects the sun.
That being said, few of our dogs ever seemed to "like" being on a boat. But, most dogs don't, in my experience.
About being wet. When we were showing dogs, our dogs were ALWAYS wet. Heck about 1/4 of the time, sometimes. And when it rains, same thing. Some of our dogs loved the water, others hated them. Deuce, our top winning dog, LOVED riding waves in the gulf. He'd swim out 2 or 3 sandbars, just to ride waves! We'd just hose him off with freshwater, he'd shake it out, and in a few hours be dry. Boat rides were just another adventure for him. But, he was an unusual dog/Sam.
Saltwater, however is different. So, if you decide to cruise with him/her, plenty of fresh water for rinsing will be required. Regular combing will keep the coat and skin clean and dry. A good Samoyed coat is self-cleaning, with combing. Buy a GOOD comb. Greyhound combs are expensive, but worth it. In the long run, it will depend very much on the dog, rather than the breed.
On a note above about bathing too much. During show season, our dogs were bathed every week, sometimes twice. A high quality shampoo for dogs will also restore any lost oils. And yes, they are double coated, the fine undercoat is what sheds in massive quantities. And when I say massive, it is an understatement.
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27-02-2015, 16:00
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Re: Samyoed on boat in caribbean
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Originally Posted by bstreep
I'm a longtime Samoyed owner and a lifetime sailor. A few years back, we had one of the top winning Samoyeds in the US. We live in South Texas.
Unlike some think, Samoyeds actually do quite well in warm weather. Dogs don't sweat like people. They cool through the pads on their feet, and by panting. A well insulated dog will do better in the heat than one that has been shaved, AS LONG AS they don't get overheated to start with, and they have plenty of fresh cool water. Their white coat reflects the sun.
That being said, few of our dogs ever seemed to "like" being on a boat. But, most dogs don't, in my experience.
About being wet. When we were showing dogs, our dogs were ALWAYS wet. Heck about 1/4 of the time, sometimes. And when it rains, same thing. Some of our dogs loved the water, others hated them. Deuce, our top winning dog, LOVED riding waves in the gulf. He'd swim out 2 or 3 sandbars, just to ride waves! We'd just hose him off with freshwater, he'd shake it out, and in a few hours be dry. Boat rides were just another adventure for him. But, he was an unusual dog/Sam.
Saltwater, however is different. So, if you decide to cruise with him/her, plenty of fresh water for rinsing will be required. Regular combing will keep the coat and skin clean and dry. A good Samoyed coat is self-cleaning, with combing. Buy a GOOD comb. Greyhound combs are expensive, but worth it. In the long run, it will depend very much on the dog, rather than the breed.
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Ditto on the Greyhound combs.
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27-02-2015, 16:08
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Re: Samyoed on boat in caribbean
bstreep,
A chuckle from me about the "massive amounts" of undercoat shed. An example from my malemute, who had never been on the boat. Sailed from SF to Hawaii. Woke up in the morning to see one of his undercoat hairs floating in the sunbeam from the hatch!
My daughter used to save the hair from his undercoat, spin it into knitting "wool". It works best with 1/3 sheep wool added, for the staple, but there you go. Three months worth made a dog sweater for a friends smaller pooch.
Sorry for the hijack, just sharing.
Ann
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27-02-2015, 16:12
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Re: Samyoed on boat in caribbean
I AM NOT THE PERSON IN THIS VIDEO. Just so you know!
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27-02-2015, 16:22
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Re: Samyoed on boat in caribbean
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Originally Posted by Ann T. Cate
bstreep,
A chuckle from me about the "massive amounts" of undercoat shed. An example from my malemute, who had never been on the boat. Sailed from SF to Hawaii. Woke up in the morning to see one of his undercoat hairs floating in the sunbeam from the hatch!
My daughter used to save the hair from his undercoat, spin it into knitting "wool". It works best with 1/3 sheep wool added, for the staple, but there you go. Three months worth made a dog sweater for a friends smaller pooch.
Sorry for the hijack, just sharing.
Ann
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It wasn't a hijack. Funny but true. You should have been using the Greyhound comb. Builds your arms up.
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