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Old 15-04-2017, 16:18   #61
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Re: Ketogenesis friendly provisioning without refrigeration?

Ok, I said it before - canning your own meat and meals makes sense when you don't have refigeration. Now I can give one more reason - butter!
I don't know about you, but our low carb diet requires butter. Good tasty real butter! Have you looked at the price of canned butter? $$$ state side any way! I am definitely going to try this one.
Here in Mexico one can get butter, but mostly by the single stick or, often, with soy oil added (we will never do soy ever) There is butter out there but it's not super easy to find. So...
https://www.justapinch.com/recipes/s...ng-butter.html
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Re: Ketogenesis friendly provisioning without refrigeration?

Was looking at entrance requirements for the BVI, the other day.

Entry Requirements | The British Virgin Islands

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Yacht owners, charter guests and visitors may bring food into the British Virgin Islands. For the time being, however, because of the worldwide threat of Hoof and Mouth and Mad Cow Disease, a law is in effect which bans the importation of any meat products unless an application is submitted to the Department of Agriculture for approval. Approved permits cost $25.00. For more information, please call the Department of Agriculture at 284-495-2532. Visitors coming from the North America with meat products for consumption during their stay will not have to fill out the application if they are bringing less than 40 lbs. of meat.
I'm pretty sure that they're not the only place with restrictions on what types of foodstuffs you can bring into the country.

I'd hesitate to carry more stored food than I could afford to lose, without being very careful to make sure it was allowed for import anywhere I'd planned to go.
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Wow, virgins are just so unappealing. Ugh.
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Ok, I said it before - canning your own meat and meals makes sense when you don't have refigeration. Now I can give one more reason - butter!
I don't know about you, but our low carb diet requires butter. Good tasty real butter! Have you looked at the price of canned butter? $$$ state side any way! I am definitely going to try this one.
Here in Mexico one can get butter, but mostly by the single stick or, often, with soy oil added (we will never do soy ever) There is butter out there but it's not super easy to find. So...
https://www.justapinch.com/recipes/s...ng-butter.html
Thanks for the warning on the Mexican butter situation. I assumed they would have real butter. Guess I will have to stock up before going should I find myself there.

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Re: Ketogenesis friendly provisioning without refrigeration?

Unless I missed it I can't believe no one's mentioned vacuum sealing. I recommend using mason jars . you can buy a special attachment and use something as simple as a brake line bleeder , there are YouTube videos on it . Keep fats from going rancid, jerky from getting mold. Walnuts that were three years old tasted great and before I started vacuum Sealing I've had them go off in less than a month. I also buy the large jars of mayonnaise and separate into pint size jars and I've never had one go off. No Refrigeration just vacuum sealed . use at your own risk. I've never gotten around to making pemmican but you might want to look into that. I have a refrigerator so I don't can a lot of food but my 6-quart pressure cooker can can 5 one pint jars. Highly recommend one not just for canning but I use it for cooking almost every day.PS I also recommend foil pouch packaged Meats. Tuna that was over 3 years old tasted good. packages store in less space than cans and of course don't rust
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Re: Ketogenesis friendly provisioning without refrigeration?

Wow, this thread comes up every year. One thing that no one has mentioned yet are the excellent canned cheese from Washington State University's creamery. https://creamery.wsu.edu/cougar-cheese/
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Re: Ketogenesis friendly provisioning without refrigeration?

[QUOTE=KetoNomad;2368606]Oh cool I will check those out when I get back to Canada.

Is Sam's Club worth the membership fee for a single guy buying only food for trucking and sailing? I'm thinking of either getting a Costco card or Sam's Club but am unsure if its a good idea. I can't do much with monstrous cans of things.

Canned butter? That sounds awesome! Definitely trying that! Thanks!

This brings up another question about the "big box" stores. When one is provisioning for one or two, are their buys in small size cans and packages attractive or are they best for those who buy in bulk?
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Re: Ketogenesis friendly provisioning without refrigeration?

The 117 year old Italian woman who just passed away

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She also defied health advice, Bava said Saturday. Some doctors had warned her against eating....
You have to read the article....

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/world/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/news/world/an-italian-woman-believed-to-be-the-last-surviving-person-born-in-the-1800s-has-died


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Re: Ketogenesis friendly provisioning without refrigeration?

KetoNomad:

I'm impressed with how cordial this thread
has been. Thanks for starting it. I'm also
impressed with how many are positive about
the keto lifestyle. There indeed are many
reasons to go keto.

About eggs, I've kept eggs for several weeks
without refrigeration. Put them in a locker
against the hull with some blankets, towels
tshirts or something over them and turn them
every few days. The theory is that the yolk
must stay suspended and not contact the
porous shell and get oxygen which oxidizes
it (turns it rancid) The whites though can
handle some oxygen and they have very strong
antibiotic elements in them. No need to be
nervous about it. Just crack the eggs into
a bowl and if the yolk has no integrity, discard
that one but don't throw the whole group out.

Now, about fats, the closer to saturated the
fat, the longer it will keep without needing to be
airtight or lower temp. Monounsaturated
fat (e.g. olive oil) has more attachment points
on the molecules for oxygen to attach (ergo
becoming rancid) Polyunsaturated fat (e.g.
vegetable oils and seed oils) have many (poly)
attachment points for oxygen, allowing them
to go rancid much quicker under any conditions.
That is why you saw bacon unrefrigerated with
no problems. Bacon fat is highly saturated.
Saturated fat is quite healthy for humans and
there has never been any evidence
showing a link between consuming saturated
fat and any form of heart disease. (Hoenselaar,
Robert, 2011 Saturated fat and cardiovascular
disease: The discrepancy between the scientific
literature and dietary advice. Nutrition) and
(Chowdhury, R et al 2014 Association of Dietary,
circulating and supplement fatty acids with
coronary risk: A systematic review and
meta-analysis. Annals of Int Med.)

You could always carry a pig and a few chickens
like the Polynesians did.
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Re: Ketogenesis friendly provisioning without refrigeration?

And in further support of Keto, especially as we age is this research showing we probably need double the amount of protein than we have been recommended to have.


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...61561408001179

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The recommended dietary allowance (RDA) for protein, as promulgated by the Food and Nutrition Board of the United States National Academy of Science, is 0.8 g protein/kg body weight/day for adults, regardless of age. This value represents the minimum amount of protein required to avoid progressive loss of lean body mass in most individuals. There is an evidence that the RDA for elderly may be greater than 0.8 g/kg/day. Evidence indicates that protein intake greater than the RDA can improve muscle mass, strength and function in elderly. In addition, other factors, including immune status, wound healing, blood pressure and bone health may be improved by increasing protein intake above the RDA. Furthermore, the RDA does not address the recommended intake of protein in the context of a balanced diet. Concerns about potential detrimental effects of increased protein intake on bone health, renal function, neurological function and cardiovascular function are generally unfounded. In fact, many of these factors are improved in elderly ingesting elevated quantities of protein. It appears that an intake of 1.5 g protein/kg/day, or about 15–20% of total caloric intake, is a reasonable target for elderly individuals wishing to optimize protein intake in terms of health and function
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The 117 year old Italian woman who just passed away



You have to read the article....

An Italian woman believed to be the last surviving person born in the 1800s has died at 117


So, since I eat 7 or 8 eggs a day, I'll live to be 175...
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