Has the all-electric galley come of age?

[Arthur Garfield]

SV Delos characters went Lith in April

Great vid here->

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvDCLtN22jY

Dockhead, pretty easy fabing a gimbaled stove top- it's in the video

The lifepo batts. used are spendy! $990 per 100AH-$10K for a bank?

Think they got them to promote vendor for sure!

As for heating water (1-8 cups) -an electric water heater is Quite efficient Much more so than a Microwave by order of magnitude

Enjoy


All The Best

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

Why do you dislike using your genset? Noise?....

For me, it is the most versatile charging system on board and should be exercised regularly to keep functional.


At anchor profile:
Run our 12kw Gen in the morning for one hour
to bulk up House Bank so Solar can then top up, same time make water, freeze plates, cook up meals on induction, rice cooker and heat water.

That's 1-2 liters of diesel ($2) and is dependable regardless of Sun or Wind.

Diesel Generators are your friend and if installed properly can be silent inside and out.

Its pretty quiet, can't hear it in the cockpit and its not intrusive inside.
I just prefer to not use it which in summer, with high sun, we rarely do.

But its a wonderful thing when we need it.
7kva does bulk battery, hot water and handles the 240v refrigeration cycling on but try and run a toaster or electric kettle at the same time and it complains.

[Arthur Garfield]

ZULU40

Do you have images to share of what you describe below?

"manufactured gimbals out of castor wheel parts so that the stove and oven could be locked level"

Tks.


All the Best

[travellerw]

Originally Posted by Simi 60

That's about 3x faster rate of usage than us based on our 2 years aboard.
Just checked our records and usually over 3mths for a 8.5kg (bit less than 20lb) bottle

We have 2250w of solar but would not consider all electric yet.
I dislike using the genset, rarely need to run it.

We are cooking for 5 people.. My wife also likes to bake... A LOT. We make bread, bagels, casserols, ect. Our oven is used at least 3 times a week.

[mikedefieslife]

Those with induction stoves/plates, how well do your pots and pans stay on the stove whilst underway?

Most induction countertops I've seen are just flat glossy glass. Currently I have a non-gimbaled gas stove (catamaran), and it seems I can happily boil water, make pasta etc.. whilst in some serious chop or waves on the beam without the pan going anywhere. I'm not sure I could do the same with induction.

[jmh2002]

To be sure I guess you could install a removable and adjustable sea rail and pan clamp frame externally into the countertop around the induction hob surface much the same as marine gas hob already has.

[ZULU40]

Originally Posted by Simi 60

I always thought metho stoves to be incredibly dangerous.

Dometic are not pressurized fuel, and there are few moving parts. If you spilled and ignited the fuel its pretty easy to put out in the quantities we are talking about for a stove. You could use an extinguisher but really just water is fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf12KDIr8As

[mikedefieslife]

Originally Posted by jmh2002

To be sure I guess you could install a removable and adjustable sea rail and pan clamp frame externally into the countertop around the induction hob surface much the same as marine gas hob already has.

Ah Catamarans don't tend to have sea rails or pan clamps on stoves. I can imagine how it will work though if the top of the stove sunk into the counter a little rather than being flush, then you could fashion a rail system using spares from an old gas stove.

A little more research has shown that there are silicon nonslip mats for induction stoves. I've not sure how well they work, or if they take away a little efficiency.

[ZULU40]

Originally Posted by Arthur Garfield

ZULU40

Do you have images to share of what you describe below?

"manufactured gimbals out of castor wheel parts so that the stove and oven could be locked level"

Tks.


All the Best

not as such but I can do some work on it for you if needs be. It was all a bit of a jiggle to fit at first
I couldn't get the exact castors I used but below are example wheel castors, one has a brake which also locks the wheel direction, the other is just a freewheel.

I simply removed the wheels, drilled an additional hole and put a block of hardwood in place. The blocks of wood are seen here just roughly positioned in place. The device sits sideways so it uses the castoring bearing set. The one that locks is on the left and you can just see the brake lever poking above.

The stove is carried on aluminum side plates bolted to the tops of the castor frames which sit sideways, and to the lower part of the stove. Also connected is a marine ply box bolted to the lower side of the plates which carries the convection oven. Since all the weight is carried below the castoring bearings it hangs easily.

Ok now it gets complicated. Since the stove also has to open to refill it (maybe look at the video in post #52 to explain that), that adds a complication. So when opened the stove by virtue of the open top is ballasted with more weight to the rear. This rather neatly puts the fuel cans in the position recommended by Dometic to fill them without removing them.

What you can see in my rather poor images, a closeup of the stove labeled with some camera shake. A wheel castor with a brake and one without. The four holes are bolted to the aluminum side plates. I hope that works for you

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by mikedefieslife

Those with induction stoves/plates, how well do your pots and pans stay on the stove whilst underway?

Most induction countertops I've seen are just flat glossy glass. Currently I have a non-gimbaled gas stove (catamaran), and it seems I can happily boil water, make pasta etc.. whilst in some serious chop or waves on the beam without the pan going anywhere. I'm not sure I could do the same with induction.

There is a secret trick how to do that in choppy seas on a induction cooktop...

Dont tell, pssst...

Go to a kittchen supply store and buy a thin silicon baking mat. Place it between pots and pans and the glas cooktop.
They will stay in place while cooking, but the contents may spill in choppy seas...

[emoji12] [emoji108]

[Adelie]

For $50 you could get an 1800w induction hotplate and let us know how well it works.

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by CatNewBee

There is a secret trick how to do that in choppy seas on a induction cooktop...

Dont tell, pssst...

Go to a kittchen supply store and buy a thin silicon baking mat. Place it between pots and pans and the glas cooktop.
They will stay in place while cooking, but the contents may spill in choppy seas...

[emoji12] [emoji108]

Thanks for that!

At first I thought you were joking, then I Googled and found this:
https://www.ebay.com/p/True-Inductio...Mat/1237387086

Seems pricy my guess is because they market for Induction.

I would prefer a rectangular sheet to fit the whole 4 element surface as standard use even at anchor.

Any suggestions with links?

I built an adjustable slotted rail and grid system to hold pots when underway, but we don't usually cook when rough...just reheat via microwave

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

Thanks for that!

At first I thought you were joking, then I Googled and found this:
https://www.ebay.com/p/True-Inductio...Mat/1237387086

Seems pricy my guess is because they market for Induction.

I would prefer a rectangular sheet to fit the whole 4 element surface as standard use even at anchor.

Any suggestions with links?

I built an adjustable slotted rail and grid system to hold pots when underway, but we don't usually cook when rough...just reheat via microwave

I've got 2 of 30x40cm baking mats, each 4 EUR in a ordinary store. Fit great on my cooktop with vario fields (90cm x 45cm) I don't know, if there are larger mats around for a standard 60 x 50 cm array.

[Jammer]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

Any suggestions with links?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[ursuss]

We have an induction stove and a diesel (yes, diesel) stove and oven.
The diesel stove is a bit sluggish and hard to control the temperature, but the oven is super awesome.
And of course the induction stove is great (we have 1600W solar and LiFePo batteries, no generator)
Link to oven: Wallas | Wallas 86 D boat oven | 86 D diesel oven | Convection oven for boats