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Old 28-11-2021, 10:28   #181
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Re: Groceries: How do you get them to the boat?

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We sprout.
Our garden is in a couple-three dozen Mason jars.
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Although regulating our garden output took a while -- always had more than we could eat -- we finally achieved 'just right'.
During that process, we added sprouts to all our smoothies, stews, and baked goods.
We dehydrated sprouts, we freeze-dried sprouts, we gave sprouts to everybody in the flotilla.
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Gulls are fond of sprouts.
Who'da guessed!
That's a heck of a lot of sprouts .

I use this system of stackable trays. I start one, and then a few days later the next, and just keep rotating. Once we get going we have a constant supply coming on stream. Seems to work great on our little boat.


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Old 28-11-2021, 11:20   #182
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We sprout.
Our garden is in a couple-three dozen Mason jars.
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Although regulating our garden output took a while -- always had more than we could eat -- we finally achieved 'just right'.
During that process, we added sprouts to all our smoothies, stews, and baked goods.
We dehydrated sprouts, we freeze-dried sprouts, we gave sprouts to everybody in the flotilla.
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Gulls are fond of sprouts.
Who'da guessed!
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Back on topic...
During our rare excursions into 'civilization', each of us pushes a jogger-stroller.
Aluminum and plastics, they fold into an almost-nothing, and hang out-of-the-way until needed.
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We acquire twenty-pound bags of organic sproutable seeds.
These immediately go in the freezer, then into five-gallon buckets.
A sprinkle of diatomaceous earth, and bugs are minimal.
A couple-three times a year, we rent a cylinder of nitrogen, and purge the air from the bottoms up.
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An aside:
We forage sea-vegetables from the near-beach zone, any foods growing near the beach are investigated.
Anything to postpone going to town.
If you knew us, you might say we barely tolerate 'civilization', carnivals, 'night-life'.
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Old 28-11-2021, 12:16   #183
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...I can’t eat yolks...powdered eggs...for baking.
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For us, complete eggs or complete freeze-dried eggs are essential for the lutein.
To complement our dietary lutein, we take lutein supplements.
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According to research, lutein helps protect the eyeball lining... and is said to deter macular degeneration.
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Powdered eggs in flan!
Add some pumpkin for pumpkin flan!
Add some ground herbs and a splash of coconut vinegar for savory flan!
(If your body can tolerate the nightshade family -- tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, eggplant) add some tomato sauce, sausage, and ground potatoes for goulash-ish flan!
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Old 28-11-2021, 12:21   #184
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For sprouting we love the Asian style “taugee” which is from Mung beans. We developed a very handy system for use aboard back in 2012, using some ziplock containers. I’m pretty sure someone on this forum translated our blog posts to English and posted that here
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For us, complete eggs or complete freeze-dried eggs are essential for the lutein.
To complement our dietary lutein, we take lutein supplements.
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According to research, lutein helps protect the eyeball lining... and is said to deter macular degeneration.
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Powdered eggs in flan!
Add some pumpkin for pumpkin flan!
Add some ground herbs and a splash of coconut vinegar for savory flan!
(If your body can tolerate the nightshade family -- tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, eggplant) add some tomato sauce, sausage, and ground potatoes for goulash-ish flan!


Yes yes. Fantastic sounding stuff. I used to love that type of stuff.

However, widow maker heart attack and dairy allergy (brought on by epoxy exposure) means none of that for me anymore.

It’s a completely different food menu now, but, it’s fun to try new things anyway. I’m pretty happy that I got to try a bunch of new stuff that I didn’t know existed before the boat building related problems.

I eat plenty of broccoli, leafy greens, pistachios, etc. these are higher than eggs in lutein anyway. So no shortage here just using egg whites.

“ Lutein is a xanthophyll and one of 600 known naturally occurring carotenoids. Lutein is synthesized only by plants, and like other xanthophylls is found in high quantities in green leafy vegetables such as spinach, kale and yellow carrots. -Wikipedia”
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Just some examples of what I wrote about before.

Example: the pancake mix only needs water as milk, butter, eggs etc. are all in there already
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Just some examples of what I wrote about before.

Example: the pancake mix only needs water as milk, butter, eggs etc. are all in there already
Sure you could survive on that but pancakes are much better with fresh fruit and a side of bacon.
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Just some examples of what I wrote about before.

Example: the pancake mix only needs water as milk, butter, eggs etc. are all in there already
That type of pancake mix is available in every little tienda in Mexico and everywhere else where we ever looked for it.
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Beautiful work, Jedi!

I have the same canner and love it.

During Covid, we went in a bit of a different direction. I had always done exactly what you are doing in these photos.

After a lot of careful thought, and not being able to get canning lids because they ran out, I decided to go with freezing instead. Big-time freezing. Now instead of canning I use a freezer to preserve most of the things that I would have done with the canner in the past. The freezer runs from solar and it’s huge.

The pandemic taught me that Canning is a little bit too dependent on other people when it comes to more of the survival side of things. Which I also like to participate in. For sure, I hate going to the grocery store often because it’s a waste of time, but, if anything ever did go wrong, I like to have all of my food lined up already. And I’ve now used freezers for that instead.

I thought canning was impervious to disruption, but those damn lids. They are disposable. And you need a constant supply.
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Sure you could survive on that but pancakes are much better with fresh fruit and a side of bacon.
Of course but we never managed to get fresh fruit and bacon into the mix package. We now use canned fruit or jam and bacon from the freezer
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That type of pancake mix is available in every little tienda in Mexico and everywhere else where we ever looked for it.
Pretty sure they never had Dutch pancakes so no, it isn’t available anywhere outside Holland apart for some expat specialty shops.

Also, commercial mixes always have genetically modified corn products like high fructose syrup.
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After a lot of careful thought, and not being able to get canning lids because they ran out, I decided to go with freezing instead. Big-time freezing. Now instead of canning I use a freezer to preserve most of the things that I would have done with the canner in the past. The freezer runs from solar and it’s huge.

The pandemic taught me that Canning is a little bit too dependent on other people when it comes to more of the survival side of things. Which I also like to participate in. For sure, I hate going to the grocery store often because it’s a waste of time, but, if anything ever did go wrong, I like to have all of my food lined up already. And I’ve now used freezers for that instead.

I thought canning was impervious to disruption, but those damn lids. They are disposable. And you need a constant supply.
We do a lot of freezing as well, mostly product that don’t can well. The pictures show a creamy curry sauce, but guacamole is even more successful. For this we use a chamber vacuum which allows powdery as well as liquid contents. The size bag is standardized and when flattened and frozen, they fit in the freezers like index cards.

For shortage of lids, we switched to reusable Tattler lids
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Oh I found a good picture of freezer storage with our “index card” system. Top right packages is ground beef, at 1 lb each.
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Yep. It’s all a crapshoot. One I’m not willing to mess with anymore. As I said a moment ago, it’s no different than building a boat from epoxy. If you keep eating those fish, eventually, your number is up. You don’t know when. But eventually it happens. I have learned my lesson to stay away from those fish and epoxy as well. My number was already up.
Chotu, you can order canning lids online.
Forget trying to find them in the stores.
As I'm not a seafood, fish eater, but I understand.
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