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01-08-2010, 10:24
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Port Ludlow Wa
Boat: Makela,Ingrid38,Idora
Posts: 2,049
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Garbage
The flip side of good food on board is Garbage!!! I love to cook underway and get a great kick out of an excellent meal as the world slides by. Up to this point limiting garbage has required the elimination of all glass bottles in favor of collapsable containers and limited use of paper products. I end up storing bags of garbage in the dingy for disposal at the next appropriate port. I need to find a better method.
How do you deal with garbage?
Todd
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01-08-2010, 10:55
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Wash DC
Boat: PETERSON 44
Posts: 3,165
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get rid of as much packaging before it comes on board, When ever we go ashore we bring small amounts in. Some more rural boatyards don't mind if you use their dumsters others well. Most places still don't have municipal recycling.  so more then anything keep it off the boat, Cans get rinsed before they go into the bag to help keep the smell down.
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01-08-2010, 12:30
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Underway in the Med -
Boat: Jeanneau 40 DS SoulMates
Posts: 2,274
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this is the biggest complaint from the Admiral -- in the bahamas we opened cans at both ends and sank them in very very deep water - paper was burned on shore at selected locations - some stuff we just kept in plastic bags until we got someplace to get rid of them - we never try to bring glass on board -
chuck patty and svsoulmates
on the hook deltaville va
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01-08-2010, 12:47
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: A real life Zombie from FL
Boat: Gulfstar 53 - Osiris
Posts: 5,416
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Glass is a no-no if it can be avoided. When it cannot I put the bottle into an athletic sock so that it cannot rattle and crash/break when the boat moves. Wine bottles are put into the straight "tube socks" and then they can be stacked or placed up against each other without any problems.
- - Be very careful of liquids, especially liquid soaps, purchases in the store in plastic bottles. Some of the plastics in use are made deliberately "biodegradable" and after about a year the plastic bottle fails and you have a gallon/quart of liquid soap in the bilge. I transfer all long term store bought plastic bottle stuff into stronger kitchen "tupper-ware" type bottles.
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01-08-2010, 12:52
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Underway in the Med -
Boat: Jeanneau 40 DS SoulMates
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box wine works great -- we took 13 boxes with us last year (and ran out) - no bottles to deal with - actually found out here in cheaspeake some of the bars are using box wine as a house wine --
but stock up before florida - in fla can only get 3 liter boxes but outside fla can get 5 liter boxes --
chuck patty and svsoulmates
on the hook deltaville va
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01-08-2010, 13:01
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Port Ludlow Wa
Boat: Makela,Ingrid38,Idora
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Thanks folks, I appreciate all the suggestions. Please keep them comming. I never thought about plastic bottle failure outside of freez dammage. I guess I feel like I am chuming when I am towing the dingy as a garbage scow. Next I will have seagulls following me.
Todd
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01-08-2010, 14:02
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto
Boat: CS36Merlin, "La Belle Aurore"
Posts: 7,557
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We break our glass wine bottles in deep water. Trash including beer cans we burn or drop off where there is a dump.
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Toronto in summer, Bahamas in winter.
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01-08-2010, 16:13
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 391
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We toss glass over in deep water... It's just sand, after all.....
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Currently on the hard, looking for a boat
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01-08-2010, 16:30
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cruiser
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Tampa to New York
Boat: Morgan 33 OutIsland, Magic and 33' offshore scott design "Cutting Edge"
Posts: 1,594
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Garbage bag
We have a large topgun bag that hangs off the stern rail. It works so well I thought Id make some up and try ebay. Fat chance, after running multiple auctions at a price that barely covered materials, I gave them away to friends. Anyway it is held on rail with a flap with 3 commonsense fasteners, has a handle on bottom for emptying into dumpsters and easily holds a months worth of trash. drawstring closure. To clean it we just invert it and hang it in water overnight.
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01-08-2010, 17:26
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Kingston, Wa.
Boat: 1966 Buchan 37
Posts: 302
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Don't break the glass
Don't bother breaking the glass bottles, just sink them, small animals can make their home in them. I have done many clean up dives on arificial fishing reefs and was told to leave any bottles as it's good for the residents. I don't know how deep of water this can apply to but unbroken glass in no worse than broken.
My .02
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Maelstrom
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01-08-2010, 17:41
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Brisbane, Australia.
Posts: 1,338
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Plastic always goes back to shore, everything else is over the side in deep water.
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Bavaria 50 Cruiser
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01-08-2010, 18:30
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: South Pacific
Boat: Islander 36
Posts: 1,601
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It's a problem
Not intended as thread drift. I feel this is very related.
Trash/rubbish/garbage that has been carefully stored while your waiting to get to a "responsible" spot to dispose of it, does not (maybe, rarely?) make it's way to a landfill.
Im my experience, there are times when locals with come by to collect your trash (and a fee), which they then dispose of by throwing into whatever spot works for them. Landfills are for more wealthy countries.
I'm thinking that those plasctic bags we try to be so careful about have a good chance of finding their way into the water with very little effort.
So the problem starts with buying packaged goods. It's a tough one.
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Minggat
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01-08-2010, 18:47
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: sausalito
Boat: 14 meter sloop
Posts: 7,260
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back in the days before I turned into a rabid environmentalist, I used to toss glass bottles overboard when the seas were calm and use the bottles for target practice. I always figured that it didn't matter if I missed, they'd sink soon enough anyway.
Oops. Didn't mean to turn this into another gun thread.
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01-08-2010, 19:19
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Brisbane, Australia.
Posts: 1,338
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A lot of rubbish in the island groups does not go to land fill, but ground up and put on a barge that is taken well out to sea and dumped. I still worry about plastics.
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Simon
Bavaria 50 Cruiser
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01-08-2010, 19:31
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Bay of Islands, New Zealand
Boat: Mason 53
Posts: 652
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G'day, mates. We wash the plastic and cut it into small plieces for disposal later ashore. We are down to generating about a 1/2 cubic foot / week using the above mentioned techniques. Cheers.
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