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15-03-2014, 20:13
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Re: Drinking Rainwater with Tiny Bugs Swimming in It
Hiya Steve! There is no point convincing those who are accustomed to doing things their way for a long while, irrespective of medical innovations. There are millions of folks who still swim, wash and directly drink from the Ganges, Nile and Amazon rivers, among other bodies of water. Others, have never heard of acid rain. I am just amazed at the lack of healthy living in so many folks.
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15-03-2014, 20:37
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Re: Drinking Rainwater with Tiny Bugs Swimming in It
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Originally Posted by Teknav
Hiya Steve! There is no point convincing those who are accustomed to doing things their way for a long while, irrespective of medical innovations. There are millions of folks who still swim, wash and directly drink from the Ganges, Nile and Amazon rivers, among other bodies of water. Others, have never heard of acid rain. I am just amazed at the lack of healthy living in so many folks.
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I don't think anyone here suggested that we whose bodies are unused to defending against the pathogens of the Ganges or Amazon drink of those waters without boiling.
This was a discussion about using rain water, which may be a lot cleaner some places than others.
I think we're in danger of drifting into political waters here.
Bye.
Ann
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15-03-2014, 20:58
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Re: Drinking Rainwater with Tiny Bugs Swimming in It
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Originally Posted by Teknav
Hiya Steve! There is no point convincing those who are accustomed to doing things their way for a long while, irrespective of medical innovations.
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I am just amazed at the lack of healthy living in so many folks.
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Mauritz, as a Board Certified Pharmacist, perhaps you could educate the many folks who drink catchment rainwater of the medical innovations that contravene their practice of "doing things their way for a long while"?
Does not the fact of multitudes successfully practicing such activities seem to indicate that it is indeed a healthy way of life? (This does not refer to river water... just rainwater collected in rural Australia and other similar venues). As I mentioned before, I am unaware of any epidemiological data that suggest the contrary. Again, perhaps you could point us toward a citation supporting your statement.
And for Steve, I believe that most of the discussion here was directed at macro, not micro biota. Not even us yotties think we can see bacteria.
Oh BTW, the OP mentioned something about "biological transmutation of elements" or something like that. That will be of extreme interest to all alchemists, who have been stuffing about for centuries with wet chemistry techniques to do that. But I digress...
Jim
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15-03-2014, 21:04
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Re: Drinking Rainwater with Tiny Bugs Swimming in It
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Does not the fact of multitudes successfully practicing such activities seem to indicate that it is indeed a healthy way of life?
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Lots of people sucessfully engage in the practice of smoking cigarettes too. For decades, even. Doesn't make it a healthy way of life.
Just sayin'.
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15-03-2014, 21:05
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Re: Drinking Rainwater with Tiny Bugs Swimming in It
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It is just lame. A person needs to throw out the title in here. I was a licensed Pharmacist a long long time a go. I went back to school because I prefer to be call Doctor.
I don't mind to drink rain water either. I don't need bottle water to survive. I use common sense to survive.
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15-03-2014, 21:12
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Re: Drinking Rainwater with Tiny Bugs Swimming in It
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Lots of people sucessfully engage in the practice of smoking cigarettes too. For decades, even. Doesn't make it a healthy way of life.
Just sayin'. 
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But fstbttms, there is a GREAT deal of epidemiological evidence that cigarette smoking is NOT healthy. My point is that such evidence is lacking in the rainwater discussion.
Jim
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15-03-2014, 21:16
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Re: Drinking Rainwater with Tiny Bugs Swimming in It
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Mauritz, as a Board Certified Pharmacist,
Jim
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Jim,
Mauritz stated as a "Pharmacy" not "Pharmacist'.
I have not idea what Board Certified Pharmacist or board certified Pharmacy is.
We often see Dr. xxx is a board certified oncologist or cardiologist.
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15-03-2014, 21:21
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Re: Drinking Rainwater with Tiny Bugs Swimming in It
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15-03-2014, 21:44
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Re: Drinking Rainwater with Tiny Bugs Swimming in It
That's a relief, cal40john, because flexibility about water sourcing looks like being an increasingly crucial issue for Australians in the challenging century to come.
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15-03-2014, 21:47
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Re: Drinking Rainwater with Tiny Bugs Swimming in It
When I was stationed in Hawaii, we did a survival course before they would consider sending you to Ranger school. We were issued iodine tablets for the times we couldn't find "steady moving" water. Never for a moment even considered getting sick from drinking water from a stream, waterfall or rain catch rig. I grew up drinking water from what is now considered hazardous. Never had an issue, that is until we did some training with the Aussies in Darwin. Drank from the same source dozens of other troops drank from and I was the only one that got ill. It wasn't bad and passed pretty quickly, but the lesson learned is that water anywhere can affect each of us differently. When in doubt, boil it out!!
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15-03-2014, 22:07
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Re: Drinking Rainwater with Tiny Bugs Swimming in It
I grew up drinking water from streams in the Sierra Nevada, North Georgia, the Appalachians, Minnesota lakes, etc. Never sick. But now Giardia lamblia is widespread, and it's worse than a couple of days of the runs. Once it's in a stream it doesn't go away. Spread by fecal matter from infected animals.
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15-03-2014, 23:19
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Re: Drinking Rainwater with Tiny Bugs Swimming in It
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Where you would build a concrete block basement, we build a water tank. We have no air pollution so our rain water is directly piped thru the house by a wellpump/pressure tank system. Our coral stone shingles, coated with white lime wash purifies the water. Google Bermuda roof and see our clinker-built construction.
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No basements here in South Texas, and out here in the boonies, not much air pollution (compared to most of the US, not Bermuda). My former homes in the Rio Grande Valley had oyster shell/lime roofing until I replaced with standard shingles. That shell was good hurricane-proof stuff (well...), until a damned tree trimmer dropped a huge bo tree limb through it  .
As far as rainwater, I catch a little to drink sometimes, good stuff; but most of our water comes from an aquifer deep underground, filtered through thousands of feet of limestone, clean and pure (so far). In the Valley that stuff drawn from the Rio Grande was pretty bad tasting, full of sediment and crud (and probably pathogens), bleccch...
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16-03-2014, 00:41
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Re: Drinking Rainwater with Tiny Bugs Swimming in It
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Originally Posted by rockDAWG
Jim,
Mauritz stated as a "Pharmacy" not "Pharmacist'.
I have not idea what Board Certified Pharmacist or board certified Pharmacy is.
We often see Dr. xxx is a board certified oncologist or cardiologist. 
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Maybe I can get from him pills to treat my waterborne illness?
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16-03-2014, 01:35
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Re: Drinking Rainwater with Tiny Bugs Swimming in It
Well now we have people emptying there Un composted nature's/air heads in the woods we should be boiling the once pristine water flowing from the hills down to the Anchorage.
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16-03-2014, 02:19
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Re: Drinking Rainwater with Tiny Bugs Swimming in It
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I think we're in danger of drifting into political waters here.
Ann
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Now that is water you really need to avoid... it will make you real crook...
Just remember not to eat the yellow snow and she'll be right..
I've been drinking roof/tank water here at Casa Ping for 40 years.. no probs.
And no... that's not the real name of mi Casa
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