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20-04-2011, 17:29
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Location: USA
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Re: CNG Conversion
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Originally Posted by SVHALLEL
Does anyone have a link where I could find jets to convert a cng stove/oven to propane. CNG is really expensive and being a live aboard you need to cook. My friend bought a kit for 300.00 US but there has to be a better way. Thanks.
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Yes a good coal stove you make your own coal from your own trees but you have been outlawed and the Coast Gard will not let you have it.
So your options are CNG,Propain,Methain, and the OIL company loves you.
Or go Electric. Or put in a fan that will blow the gas out if there is a leek.
Have a good year.
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21-04-2011, 12:18
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Location: Annapolis MD
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Re: CNG Conversion
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21-04-2011, 20:09
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ventura ca
Boat: 1988 Morgan Classic 41 "HALLEL"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by funjohnson
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Very good. Where are you installing the tanks?
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21-04-2011, 20:58
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Re: CNG Conversion
There is a sealed locker already installed from the factory with a vent overboard. I have to use the 6lb LPG bottles to fit, but its worth it not having to mess with rebuilding the locker.
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21-04-2011, 21:14
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Location: ventura ca
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Quote:
Originally Posted by funjohnson
There is a sealed locker already installed from the factory with a vent overboard. I have to use the 6lb LPG bottles to fit, but its worth it not having to mess with rebuilding the locker.
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That works. I will need to make a sealed box or install on the rail. But like you I can get Congress right now so while I am just coastal cruising I have 3 extra cng bottles so it will be a future project for sure. I enjoyed checking out your projects. Thanks and happy sails.
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21-04-2011, 21:16
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Location: ventura ca
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SVHALLEL
That works. I will need to make a sealed box or install on the rail. But like you I can get Congress right now so while I am just coastal cruising I have 3 extra cng bottles so it will be a future project for sure. I enjoyed checking out your projects. Thanks and happy sails.
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Ha spell check got me on cng and put Congress.
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21-04-2011, 21:32
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Location: Narragansett Bay
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Re: CNG Conversion
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Originally Posted by NativeUSAindian
Use your toylet storage tanks at 334 gallons per person. Put a water gas regulater on your out line and run this to your srove as a Methain stove.
keep tank at 70F then you can cook for free for one or two Hrs a day.
Be Green
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Great idea ! What daily quantity of beans will produce this result ?
Are the dried varieties better or worse ?
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18-10-2011, 19:47
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Isla Saboga, Las Perlas, Panama
Boat: 1988 48' Offshore
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Re: CNG Conversion - (Update)
Just talked to Todd at Sure Marine about converting my 1994 Seaward CNG stove/oven over to propane, and he told me the conversion kits are no longer available. They ran out of stock about a month ago, and since the company that manufactured the control valve went out of business, there are no more to be had.
So now my options seem to be buy a brand-new stove/oven for $900 to $1000 or find a good used one.
I've been planning to do this conversion for two years, and kept putting it off to go sailing and take care of other issues that I thought were more important, and now I've screwed myself.
I've already installed the propane locker and tank, and this was going to be the final step.
Do I have any good options?
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18-10-2011, 21:30
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Re: CNG Conversion
I am burning propane in a CNG stove right now.The person who sold it to me said he put a different size jet in two of the three burners.But I cant tell the difference.They all burn the same .The only thing I dont like is the flame adjustment when I want the flame really low.It needs a delicate touch and I am not sure how it will go when the boat is rocking and rolling.I say,if you can do it without great expense,connect the stove to propane and see what it does.
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19-10-2011, 08:16
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Location: Isla Saboga, Las Perlas, Panama
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Re: CNG Conversion
From talking to Todd, the main problem is the oven. The burners all have jets that are easy to unscrew and replace. The oven has this zinc casting that controls the pilot light and the temperature. This is the part that is no longer available.
The oven control is supposed to have a screw that switches the gas flow from a CNG orifice to a propane orifice that is pre-drilled in the casting at the factory - thus making it easy to change the oven from CNG to propane. But, Seaward, to save a couple of bucks, supposedly had the controls made without the propane orifice. So the screw does nothing but cut off the gas flow entirely.
Maybe I can live without the oven and just use it for extra storage. How often do cruisers use their ovens?
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19-10-2011, 11:47
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Location: Virginia
Boat: Island Packet 380, now sold
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Re: CNG Conversion
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Originally Posted by oldjags
...How often do cruisers use their ovens?
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It just so happens there's a thread on that topic...
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ven-54957.html
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19-10-2011, 12:14
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Location: Isla Saboga, Las Perlas, Panama
Boat: 1988 48' Offshore
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Re: CNG Conversion
OK, now I'm hungry. I read the whole thread, and it looks like its about 50/50 on whether or not an oven is useful on the boat.
So, like in all other areas of life, my wife gets to decide.
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19-10-2011, 12:29
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
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Re: CNG Conversion
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Originally Posted by oldjags
... So, like in all other areas of life, my wife gets to decide.
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ALWAYS a good policy.
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20-10-2011, 14:12
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Chesapeake & BVI
Boat: Cal 34 & Pearson 424
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Re: CNG Conversion
Try an appliance repair shop, or an RV parts supplier.
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