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31-10-2016, 09:21
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Location: Nova Scotia until Spring 2021
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Re: Turning into the wind
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Originally Posted by Sailmonkey
When I've had this happen to me I've turned down wind and backed into the wind, then completed the turn with the stern to. Works quite well and our boats are quite similar.
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Yes, I've gotten out of tight spots this way. Awkward, but less of a fight.
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31-10-2016, 17:32
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Kingston Ont Canada
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Re: Turning into the wind
If you can't get the bow into the wind, change your thinking...and put the stern into the wind.
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31-10-2016, 17:33
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Kingston Ont Canada
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Re: Turning into the wind
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Originally Posted by S/V Alchemy
Yes, I've gotten out of tight spots this way. Awkward, but less of a fight.
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The trick is to let the wind work for you, not fight it.
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31-10-2016, 23:24
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Arctic Ocean
Boat: Under construction 35' ketch (and +3 smaller)
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Re: Turning into the wind
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Originally Posted by donradcliffe
Some boats just don't maneuver well.
While it doesn't apply to singlehanders, I saw some impressive seamanship on a small freighter in Panama. The wind was blowing hard down the main channel. The ship was trying to turn from a side channel into the main channel and the wind. It wasn't going to make it, and it was headed for the yacht club docks (and my boat). All of a sudden a guy pops out of the wheelhouse, runs the length of the ship, and drops the anchor on short scope. The anchor grabs enough that the bow swings into the wind. The anchor is raised, and the ship steams off.
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Second this..
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01-11-2016, 00:34
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: 1962 Columbia 29 MK 1 #37
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Re: Turning into the wind
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Originally Posted by Sailmonkey
When I've had this happen to me I've turned down wind and backed into the wind, then completed the turn with the stern to. Works quite well and our boats are quite similar.
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I had to do the same with a Cheoy Lee Luders 30 some time back. Very tight quarters and the wind was not going to give me room, even to try goosing the wash against the rudder. I ended up backing out, and didn't even hit one boat! Backing up I did have to straighten her up a couple times with a few gooses.
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01-11-2016, 02:23
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Join Date: Nov 2015
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Re: Turning into the wind
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Originally Posted by dmksails
I have a Tashiba-31 sailboat with a full keel. I recently completed a trip where I got to the marina just as the wind started whipping up strong. Just prior to entering the marina I called ahead for a slip and was told there would be a number of them on the guest pier and this would allow a straight approach - just pull over and dock
Ok, so I'm now in the marina going down along the guest pier and there is nothing - a few spaces that might hold a dinghy. The pier - and the wind - are on my port side. I'm getting close to the end and reach the conclusion that I have to turn around. The boat backs like a pig on ice.
Not enough room to turn at speed, so I try to back and fill. I'm now stuck perpendicular in the fairway and unable to get the bow beyond 45 degrees to the wind. I'm seriously stuck. Also I'm alone.
As luck had it, there was a large fishing boat just up the fairway and the tide was pushing me that way. I backed and filled - basically heading down the fairway sideways until I got into the wind shadow of the fishing boat where I was finally able to get the bow up and get the hell out of there.
Is there any way to turn a boat like mine into the wind?
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I suppose you have a wrong propeller, either a solid blades or even worse a folding prop.
Considering the fact that you have a full keel boat, mooring into strong winds becomes a difficult operation. You should upgrade to a feathering propeller and all will become much easier !
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01-11-2016, 11:09
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Join Date: Jun 2015
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Re: Turning into the wind
Quote: "crank wheel over hard and goose engine."
Ah - Zeehag :-) You made my day. I LOVE pithy answers ;-0)!
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01-11-2016, 11:16
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
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Re: Turning into the wind
Learn which way your prop walk works. Turn the direction that will allow you to use that.
-turn, go to neutral
-Reverse the engine and gun it , back to neutral
-Reverse the rudder and gun it ahead.
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01-11-2016, 15:53
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Port Townsend, WA
Boat: Tashiba-31
Posts: 484
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Re: Turning into the wind
Thanks for all the advice. My boat actually has pretty good prop walk and on a calm day I can spin it almost in it's own length. The challenge is when the wind is blowing and determining the point at which the wind is just too strong to bring the bow into the wind. Experience pays all and as I get more familiar with her and get out and practice in different conditions then I will figure it out.
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