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Old 02-11-2016, 17:15   #91
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Wow, that density view is fantastic. It would be really valuable for trip planning, even in the high density areas like the English Channel. We could plan for the less traveled (even if they are very highly traveled) strips of water. Thanks for pointing us to that.
It is a great function, and I have been playing with it since I learned about it on this thread.

BUT....

I get the feeling that the colour code is not quite as straight forward as you'd like. I.e., it is a RELATIVE colour chart. That is to say, RELATIVE to everywhere else you have visible on the chart at the moment... this bit is busy (red), this bit is less busy... etc. So you get much the same colour for bits of the English Channel as you do for a bit of water near our house, where I know for sure only two or three ships pass per day.

However, for all that, it is a truly excellent addition to trip planning and I am really glad it was pointed out to me. +1 for C.F. and members.

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one other advantage of moving vs hove-to; boat is instantly manoeverable if a hazard is woken up to. Not that i havent dropped all the sails and gone below knowing the engine is ready to start - probably about as quick, by time the windvane is disengaged from steering...
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one other advantage of moving vs hove-to; boat is instantly manoeverable if a hazard is woken up to. Not that i havent dropped all the sails and gone below knowing the engine is ready to start - probably about as quick, by time the windvane is disengaged from steering...


I don't have a wind vane. Plus when alone I need peace and quiet sometimes as in making lunch. I am not in a hurry. I sail for the magic of the sea. There is something about heaving-to that calms the sea . I don't yet understand why but I do understand how....I am not young any more so I tend to be very careful.
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Re: Transitioning to longer solo trips

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'Why' is that it "stops the boat," and the boat motion is fairly stable heeled, plus slowly up and down, depending on the wave period. It does not really calm the seas, but the change in motion calms us!

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bill,

'Why' is that it "stops the boat," and the boat motion is fairly stable heeled, plus slowly up and down, depending on the wave period. It does not really calm the seas, but the change in motion calms us!

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It can calm the seas to a certain extent since you are often drifting slightly downwind through your own "wind shadow" or "slick".
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It can calm the seas to a certain extent since you are often drifting slightly downwind through your own "wind shadow" or "slick".
True when actually hove to in the classical sense, making no headway at all... then the slick, or upwelling of water from under the sideways-moving keel, does tend to keep seas from breaking upon you.

Most modern boats will not achieve that state, rather fore reaching slowly as well as making a lot of leeway. Then you get the reduction of motion and heel angle, but not the protection of the slick. That's what we get when we "heave to" in our fin keel, shallow hull Solent sloop.

The Pardey's promoted technique of using a very small parachute sea anchor canted off with a line to an after winch claims to help achieve the desired drift down wind. They make a good case for it, but I've never tried it myself, nor has anyone that I know personally... maybe a good thing, maybe not.

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My Cal 2 27 when hove-to fits Jim's description perfectly. The slick was quite large. The seas were running 4 or 5 feet and all seemed calm. It was if we were in a 5 foot hole in the sea. I remember thinking I can't see the horizon in any direction nor feel any wind.
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