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01-12-2014, 19:56
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#181
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Port Moresby,Papua New Guinea
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Re: New Sea Shepherd vessel and shes a beauty
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Originally Posted by Pelagic
Who cares if they exaggerate, over dramatize...
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Anyone that cares about the truth!
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01-12-2014, 20:35
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#182
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cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,129
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Re: New Sea Shepherd vessel and shes a beauty
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Originally Posted by StuM
Anyone that cares about the truth!
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Both of them?
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01-12-2014, 21:25
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#183
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 10,258
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Re: New Sea Shepherd vessel and shes a beauty
Anyone who has sailed the oceans for 30 years would acknowledge that the sea life has been severely changed by the demands and actions of mankind.
That is a Truth!
Whether you think that is worth discussing is an opinion.
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01-12-2014, 21:34
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#184
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Registered User

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Location: Florida/Alberta
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Re: New Sea Shepherd vessel and shes a beauty
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Originally Posted by Pelagic
Anyone who has sailed the oceans for 30 years would acknowledge that the sea life has been severely changed by the demands and actions of mankind.
That is a Truth!
Whether you think that is worth discussing is an opinion.
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No one disputes that (I think).
In dispute is whether criminal actions that Watson and crew have undertaken are the right thing. It shocks me that some sailors actually support the blatant disregard for COLREGs on the high seas.
There are some very legitimate and credible organizations (World Wildlife as an example) that are much more effective in the long run by not being PR whores. My views of Watson/Sea Shepard are not positive.
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01-12-2014, 21:43
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#185
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CF Adviser
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Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
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Re: New Sea Shepherd vessel and shes a beauty
Avb3 we agree on the opinion of Watson as I have been stiffed by him in the past for unpaid debts.
But looking at the bigger picture and those who have joined the fight....... I believe they are honourable and serve an important function as dedicated environmentalists.
To them it is a War and do Navies follow COLREGS?? 
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01-12-2014, 21:56
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#186
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2014
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Re: New Sea Shepherd vessel and shes a beauty
If by "navies" you mean the ccg that spawned this whore. I support Greenpeace, I really believe in what they do. But I have no use for pirates. None. No matter what cloaks they wear.
Watson's a pirate.
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01-12-2014, 22:27
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#187
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Join Date: Nov 2014
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Re: New Sea Shepherd vessel and shes a beauty
Watson is from my town, my neighbourhood. Was in the the sierra club with my dad. Sailed in the same coast guard I did. He went to my highschool.
When he decided to run down native fisherman. He chose a side.
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01-12-2014, 23:57
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#188
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cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Seattle
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Re: New Sea Shepherd vessel and shes a beauty
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Originally Posted by Pelagic
To them it is a War and do Navies follow COLREGS??
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Are you seriously trying to compare him to navies?
And are you really trying to call what he does a "fight"?
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02-12-2014, 00:17
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#189
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
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Re: New Sea Shepherd vessel and shes a beauty
To the environmentalists it is a fight and their weapon is not guns but confrontation to create public outrage via headlines
When the Chinese Navy rams a Filipino fish boat in the contested South China Sea area.... Nobody talks about COLREGS
The intimidation goes both ways and is a bluffing game of exaggerated spin on both sides.
I don't believe it or get involved.... but then again .....neither do I condemn it.
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02-12-2014, 05:04
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#190
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Registered User
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Re: New Sea Shepherd vessel and shes a beauty
Watson is an environmentalist in the same way Jeff Probst is a survivor. If you chose to be entertained by whale wars and snookie losing her drawers, cool, but don't tell the rest of us we''re evil because we feed our babies non-vegan breast milk. Sea Shepard s moto isn't "think globally act locally", it's "think globally act in front of a camera for money".
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02-12-2014, 05:07
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#191
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Re: New Sea Shepherd vessel and shes a beauty
Guys
Please keep the thread on track regarding boats and cruising and seamanship and keep the politics out of it or else the thread will be deemed to have run its course.
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02-12-2014, 05:52
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#192
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cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Seattle
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Re: New Sea Shepherd vessel and shes a beauty
Pelagic, you're confused about what a navy is and what a naval fight is.
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02-12-2014, 05:57
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#193
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Re: New Sea Shepherd vessel and shes a beauty
If the thread was supporting another terrorist organisation like Al Qaeda it would have been shut down already.
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