I Need a Knot

[doublewide]

I like to tie mine on the spoke, not on the rim. It serves the same purpose.

[estarzinger]

I used electrical tape

[Seaworthy Lass]

Originally Posted by estarzinger

I used electrical tape

Probable saved a few grey hairs .

I am now eagerly looking around trying to see what else this could be used for. We have a tiller, so I can't even make use of it on a wheel. I now have one attractive PVC Tee piece and that's it .

SWL

[redsky49]

Starting with baby steps I got this far. Discovered that using a section of rubber hose for practice isn't ideal due to the higher friction. Need to use a smooth non-friction surface to make the loops equal and be able to snug the knot tight. It's been raining and the cockpit isn't the coziest spot to be, so I am down below, away from the wheel.

Tomorrow, a 3L version!

Found lots of inspiration at Paracord Guild, videos on Youtube.

Will also go back and practice the Alpine Butterfly Bend. In my haste today, used a sheetbend just because I was in a hurry. Need to really make it one of those knots that I can do with my eyes closed.

This is kinda fun!

[StuM]

Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass

Probable saved a few grey hairs .

I am now eagerly looking around trying to see what else this could be used for. We have a tiller, so I can't even make use of it on a wheel. I now have one attractive PVC Tee piece and that's it .

SWL

A few ideas:
CUrchin Knot

[redsky49]

Originally Posted by redsky49

Starting with baby steps I got this far. Discovered that using a section of rubber hose for practice isn't ideal due to the higher friction. Need to use a smooth non-friction surface to make the loops equal and be able to snug the knot tight. It's been raining and the cockpit isn't the coziest spot to be, so I am down below, away from the wheel.

Tomorrow, a 3L version!

Found lots of inspiration at Paracord Guild, videos on Youtube.

Will also go back and practice the Alpine Butterfly Bend. In my haste today, used a sheetbend just because I was in a hurry. Need to really make it one of those knots that I can do with my eyes closed.

This is kinda fun!

Meant to say Zeppelin Bend.

[dhays]

I have put Turks heads on my wheels for a long time. Because my boat doesn't have a King spoke I wrap it on the rim. The advantage of that I you have a tactile feedback as to the centered position.

I also have them wrapped on boat hooks, flashlights, boat brushes etc... I tend to use line for every possible purpose including shackles.




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[redsky49]

"I have put Turks heads on my wheels for a long time. Because my boat doesn't have a King spoke I wrap it on the rim. The advantage of that I you have a tactile feedback as to the centered position.

I also have them wrapped on boat hooks, flashlights, boat brushes etc... I tend to use line for every possible purpose including shackles."

So post some pics!

[Seaworthy Lass]

Originally Posted by redsky49

Starting with baby steps I got this far. Discovered that using a section of rubber hose for practice isn't ideal due to the higher friction. Need to use a smooth non-friction surface to make the loops equal and be able to snug the knot tight. It's been raining and the cockpit isn't the coziest spot to be, so I am down below, away from the wheel.

Tomorrow, a 3L version!

This is kinda fun!

Redsky, how is it progressing? It is fun isn't it! .
So far I have just been using my hand as a mandrel, so friction hasn't been an issue.

By the way, the photo you posted is of a 3L version. Was it a five or four you were planning to try out next?

Just in case anyone is having a play with the 5 lead version, although it is based on a 3 lead, it does not work with a mule if you try the Grog 3L version. You need to start the same way as in lesson 1 above to produce an even number of side loops (bights) for the easy 'mule method' to work. I learned that the hard way after trying multiple times thinking I was making errors!

SWL

[Seaworthy Lass]

Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass

After the initial completion of the five leads, I wove the cord around another five times, producing two parallel strands, known as a 5 lead/9 bight (the bights are the number of times you go around after the initial one).

Correction:
I have been doing a bit of reading and found I comleyely misinterpreted what "bights" are . The bights are actually the number of "curves" visible on the side edge. They are determined by the number of initial crossovers or overhands if you start with a 3 lead or two lead. Determining how many bights was appropriate was what stuffed me up initially when trying to follow lesson 2 (far less were needed than I thought).

This shows what one bight is:

[sanibel sailor]

Ancient thread, but it's still hard to find a good explanation of how to split it over a spoke online.
After a couple unsuccessful tries, I just made a regular 3 bight, 4 lead knot on the rim. Leads are not the number of parallel lines. This is a 4 pass construct. Once I had the general plan, it was easy to pick where I wanted the spoke to go. Put the tail end under, close to spike rather than on outer rim. Disassemble knot to that spoke opening point, slid it down and relaid prior turns and completed to plan.
I used paracord guild site also.

I guessed I would need about 48", cut about 5 feet of paracord.. Barely enough left to complete, had to tighten prior to last passes which increased difficulty. Six feet would be better.

This is prior to trimming ends. Not much waste!

[dan104]

I have a nice old knot book on my site to share


www.fullsail.done-that.com - /Docs/


look in "19. Knot Books" for the knot book it was published 1932 by New England Cordage company

[StuM]

Originally Posted by dan104

I have a nice old knot book on my site to share


www.fullsail.done-that.com - /Docs/


look in "19. Knot Books" for the knot book it was published 1932 by New England Cordage company

Interesting that their bowline is a cowboy/left handed bowline (tail outside the loop) ABOK #1034½ which Ashley rates as "distinctly inferior" but that later in the "quickie" section, they show a true bowline.