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15-02-2022, 11:59
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Docking Alongside
I’m looking at a Fort Lauderdale property that has a dock for alongside tie ups. In the past I’ve docked this way with springs and plenty of fenders, but this has been for transient docking. My “permanent” slip has had four point tying to pilings. If I’m doing long term alongside tie-up, any thoughts on making it secure? I’m concerned that over the long term, fenders might abrade the topsides. Powerboaters use those whips, but they don’t look substantial enough for a heavier sailboat (40 ft monohull).
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15-02-2022, 12:03
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Re: Docking Alongside
Use fender socks to protect against abrasion.
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15-02-2022, 12:12
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Re: Docking Alongside
I have seen pretty large sailboats using those same whips. I nearly bought a 45' that had been stored that way for years.
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15-02-2022, 12:15
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Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Rochester, NY
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Re: Docking Alongside
They do make those whips in pretty large, heavy-duty sizes. You'd have to look around and see if someone sells a set suitable for the weight of your boat.
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15-02-2022, 12:15
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Location: Urbanna, Virginia
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Re: Docking Alongside
You can use fender boards as well which will help keep the fenders from getting chewed up. If your tie up is in a protected area without much wave action, they make stand-offs which may work for you, they kind of look like fishing poles.
I guess maybe they're called "whips"
https://www.defender.com/product.jsp...76168&id=30092
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15-02-2022, 13:52
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Re: Docking Alongside
How much to install 2-3 pilings?
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15-02-2022, 16:07
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Re: Docking Alongside
I don't get it why boat owners fuss so much about scoffed topsides. To me they are like age wrinkles on your long time partner's face. You still love them, right?
Plus as a bonus, having scoffed topsides announces to other boaters to keep away from your boat. Just as the wrinkles on your partner do.
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15-02-2022, 16:13
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Re: Docking Alongside
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Originally Posted by Island Time O25
I don't get it why boat owners fuss so much about scoffed topsides. To me they are like age wrinkles on your long time partner's face. You still love them, right?
Plus as a bonus, having scoffed topsides announces to other boaters to keep away from your boat. Just as the wrinkles on your partner do.
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I was told by an officials in new zealand they would not have detained me if I had painted my boat.
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15-02-2022, 16:24
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Re: Docking Alongside
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Originally Posted by seandepagnier
I was told by an officials in new zealand they would not have detained me if I had painted my boat.
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That's a clear demonstration of colorism! Henry Ford would not approve.
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16-02-2022, 05:18
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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Re: Docking Alongside
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Originally Posted by Island Time O25
That's a clear demonstration of colorism! Henry Ford would not approve.
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Only if it were to be a color other than black....
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05-03-2022, 03:03
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Oxfordshire UK
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Re: Docking Alongside
We have an alongside permanent berth in Littlehampton, Sussex, UK. It is in the lower estuary of the fastest flowing river in England.
Affixed to the boat I have four heavy tube fenders with fendersocks, two 500cm ball fenders and three 300cm ball fenders fixed to the dock.
In two seasons, fender rub has not marked the topsides.
We have just had three named storms this winter, our boat is blown hard against the dock in SW and W winds. These are the predominant winds in the UK.
Correctly set up with large fenders, good warps and springs you are unlikely to have trouble.
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05-03-2022, 05:19
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Re: Docking Alongside
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Originally Posted by rotrax
. . . I have four heavy tube fenders with fendersocks, two 500cm ball fenders and three 300cm ball fenders fixed to the dock. . .
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I believe you mean 50cm and 30cm… otherwise you’d have the largest fenders I’d have seen in quite a while! [emoji1]
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05-03-2022, 07:30
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Oxfordshire UK
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Re: Docking Alongside
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Originally Posted by Jamme
I believe you mean 50cm and 30cm… otherwise you’d have the largest fenders I’d have seen in quite a while! [emoji1]
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Quite right! Well spotted.
Would have been OK in mm!
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05-03-2022, 13:35
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Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
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Re: Docking Alongside
Do you have room from a breast anchor? That is a anchor either off the mid ship cleat or attached to the bow and stern cleats to hold the boat off of the dock. Mark the anchor location with a buoy.
I have only ever seen one in use twice; once in Newport, RI and once in the Abacos.
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29-03-2022, 02:25
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Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Brisbane/Norway
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Posts: 342
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Re: Docking Alongside
My dock has a built in full length fender. It makes life pretty damn easy not having to mess with fenders and looks after the boat well. They're pretty common around here.
https://www.pontoonfenders.com.au/
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