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21-12-2014, 16:15
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Re: Catamaran Vs MonoHull The Ultimate comparison
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Originally Posted by thinwater
Fly a hull! Of course, this requires a large measure of commitment and attentiveness on a cruising cat.
Or you could just lean your head. Same difference.
Oh, now I get it. For a given length, the leaner gets to enjoy the passage for longer .
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No, not the same thing. Without flying a hull no deal, more fun on a mono hull. Yes I know that on a cat that is not easy even if fun... but not impossible even on a cruising cat:
Lebreton SIG 45 - Vidéo Dailymotion
that's why I find trimarans more fun: Much safer to fly a ama and the same fun.
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21-12-2014, 16:25
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#32
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Re: Catamaran Vs MonoHull The Ultimate comparison
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Originally Posted by weavis
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The concept makes sense but I have tried and I cannot like the looks of that boat. Besides It takes the amas out of the water but in a sluggish way and it is not sailing that fast (compare with the Dragonfly I posted on the previous post).
It seems that for a condo multihul it is the fastest one can have but the performance is overrated. Some years ago I sailed side by side with a 45 Neel, while sailing a Salona 41 in very light wind (5/6K) on those conditions upwind the Salona was way faster.
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22-12-2014, 18:29
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Re: Catamaran Vs MonoHull The Ultimate comparison
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Originally Posted by 2Hulls
Flying a hull? Phooey.
How about levitation?
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You owe me a new phone, i just spit crown and coke all over mine Loll
I was just funning with this thread We enjoy sailing both, and don't discriminate.
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22-12-2014, 19:39
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#34
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Re: Catamaran Vs MonoHull The Ultimate comparison
Multihulls are so out of style!
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24-12-2014, 12:15
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Re: Catamaran Vs MonoHull The Ultimate comparison
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Originally Posted by Dulcesuenos
You owe me a new phone, i just spit crown and coke all over mine Loll
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Glad to oblige.
But crown and coke? How power boat! You shouldn't ruin Crown that way!
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24-12-2014, 14:01
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Re: Catamaran Vs MonoHull The Ultimate comparison
Heeling for an hour or so can be fun...by the time you hit 4-5 hrs, it gets old. Doing it for days on end, you can have my tough guy points. Seriously, do you run a square rigger with no winches because...it's more fun?
Solution: Hang a a monohull sailing dingy off the stern of your cat. You can heel for a 1/2 hr or so when you feel the need and then can live like a civilized person the rest of the time.
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24-12-2014, 14:14
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Re: Catamaran Vs MonoHull The Ultimate comparison
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Originally Posted by valhalla360
Heeling for an hour or so can be fun...by the time you hit 4-5 hrs, it gets old. Doing it for days on end, you can have my tough guy points. Seriously, do you run a square rigger with no winches because...it's more fun?
Solution: Hang a a monohull sailing dingy off the stern of your cat. You can heel for a 1/2 hr or so when you feel the need and then can live like a civilized person the rest of the time.
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LOLOLOL
I once seriously considered designing a boat with a gimballed interior and deck!
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24-12-2014, 14:39
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Re: Catamaran Vs MonoHull The Ultimate comparison
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Originally Posted by s/v Jedi
Multihulls are so out of style!
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It's a nice looking boat. Too bad he couldn't find any else who wanted to sail on it. Never been a problem with our cat.
And is it so boring to sail you need TVs at the helm?
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26-12-2014, 15:59
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Re: Catamaran Vs MonoHull The Ultimate comparison
Since the Op was generalizing, the mono was over-canvased and the cat crew cannot hold a tune to save their lives...
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10-01-2015, 13:34
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Re: Catamaran Vs MonoHull The Ultimate comparison
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Originally Posted by Celestialsailor
Since the Op was generalizing, the mono was over-canvased and the cat crew cannot hold a tune to save their lives...
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I'd rather sell my cat and lean all the way across the Atlantic then hear those guys sing again! ouch!
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11-01-2015, 07:47
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Re: Catamaran Vs MonoHull The Ultimate comparison
I spend my work day on a big cat then go home to relax on my monohull. Both boats rock. Both have different pros and cons.
I prefer a mono in big seas (cats seem to have a tendency to work themselves apart over time).
In strong currents and shallow waters- cats blow monos out of the water. And they're much more comfy.
Another huge plus for monos- I can afford one.
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11-01-2015, 09:05
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Re: Catamaran Vs MonoHull The Ultimate comparison
I've never been on a Catamaran that didn't sail like a shoe.
They make a great Boatominium though.
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11-01-2015, 09:27
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Re: Catamaran Vs MonoHull The Ultimate comparison
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Originally Posted by rourkeh
I've never been on a Catamaran that didn't sail like a shoe.
They make a great Boatominium though.
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Really? That's a major cat turn off for me is in my opinion they make poor dockominiums.
You can never find a downtown slip for them.
I like a boat that behaves like a boat when you need it to be a boat, and you can park downtown and use it as a dockominium when you don't have time to go sailing.
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11-01-2015, 09:55
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Re: Catamaran Vs MonoHull The Ultimate comparison
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Originally Posted by FamilyVan
Really? That's a major cat turn off for me is in my opinion they make poor dockominiums.
You can never find a downtown slip for them.
I like a boat that behaves like a boat when you need it to be a boat, and you can park downtown and use it as a dockominium when you don't have time to go sailing.
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There is a cat made for you, I think it is a German one: Great condo that when not sailing becomes thinner, with almost the beam of a modern beamy monohull. Not a big sales success I would say but an interesting one.
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11-01-2015, 10:00
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Re: Catamaran Vs MonoHull The Ultimate comparison
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Originally Posted by Polux
There is a cat made for you, I think it is a German one: Great condo that when not sailing becomes thinner, with almost the beam of a modern beamy monohull. Not a big sales success I would say but an interesting one.
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Would you be referring to the Futura (or something like that) cat with telescopic arms and all the accommodation in the centre pod..??
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