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Old 22-05-2021, 16:21   #16
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Re: Anchoring advice

IMO, having tested them and having anchored with both all-chain and practical all-rope, a kellet is only useful with all-rope rodes, and only in specific situations.



With all chain, you will get the same effect by letting out another 15-20 feet of chain, which is MUCH easier. Conversely, it will only allow you to shorten scope about 15-20 feet.



With rope it does help with specific things:
  • Swing like boats using chain.
  • Keep rope away from keel.
  • Reduce yawing (light winds only).
I would not bother with a chain rode. Waste of time. With rope I occasionally use one, and it is actually about 15 feet of chain tied up in loops with a soft shackle; much easier to use than a heavy weight (can feed right over the roller).
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Old 23-05-2021, 00:01   #17
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A plow anchor holds better then anything else here although danforth is a close second.
So, how do you know this? Goes against test results pretty universally...

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A plow anchor holds better then anything else here although danforth is a close second.
Hi, I would most humbly suggest that you review the anchor test results of Steve Goodwin, S/V Panope, and perhaps reconsider that statement.
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Old 23-05-2021, 03:51   #19
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A plow anchor holds better then anything else here although danforth is a close second.


What are you calling a plow? Cqr? Delta?
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Old 23-05-2021, 04:28   #20
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Hi, I would most humbly suggest that you review the anchor test results of Steve Goodwin, S/V Panope, and perhaps reconsider that statement.
Saw this recently in the club skip. I didn't have the slightest desire to fish it out and away it went to be re-cycled into something else.

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So, how do you know this? Goes against test results pretty universally...

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That is my experience in the conditions one finds in West Florida. I’ve anchored here probably 500 times and this Is just my observation
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What are you calling a plow? Cqr? Delta?
Delta.
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Hi, I would most humbly suggest that you review the anchor test results of Steve Goodwin, S/V Panope, and perhaps reconsider that statement.
My statement is based on personal experience in the waters of West Florida: AKA “here”.
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My statement is based on personal experience in the waters of West Florida: AKA “here”.
So you found a Delta works better for you than a Spade or Mantus? You traded those for a Delta?
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As others have said, a kellet was traditionally a heavy weight which was run down a rode on a special pully, to help keep the main anchor rode on the bottom. However, they had no actual bottom-holding power of their own.
PO should take a look at an article on my website, which uses a second anchor as a form of kellet, but with much greater advantages. A drag proof method of anchoring
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I understand what a Kellet is and how it works. I simply asked if anyone had used one and what luck they had. I’ll have a look at your website

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Hi Michael, stay loose mate... I reckon a Bruce is the best anchor out there and consider these so called 'tests' a load of hogwash if you've ever watched them.. low angled and biased sets which have no reflection on real life variables.
Just set up to support the manufacturers blarney and boost sales.. Stick with what you like and Bugga the nay sayers.
Some don't want to upset the advertisers on this site..
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I reckon a Bruce is the best anchor out there [...]
The problem with using Bruces as anchors is that they start to rot and disintegrate after some time. And Fishes love to nibble on them too. So you need a constant supply of Bruces, which is a bit hard these days. I would advise to go for Kevins, Bills or Mikes instead, they're easier to find and drag into a dark alley.
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Well I guess that is one way of getting a crew. Didn't Her Maj's Navy used to do something similar
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The problem with using Bruces as anchors is that they start to rot and disintegrate after some time. And Fishes love to nibble on them too. So you need a constant supply of Bruces, which is a bit hard these days. I would advise to go for Kevins, Bills or Mikes instead, they're easier to find and drag into a dark alley.
Mike might disagree!
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The problem with using Bruces as anchors is that they start to rot and disintegrate after some time. And Fishes love to nibble on them too. So you need a constant supply of Bruces, which is a bit hard these days. I would advise to go for Kevins, Bills or Mikes instead, they're easier to find and drag into a dark alley.
I find the biggest problems are the Sheila's..
Genuine Bruce's don't do drag..
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