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01-02-2016, 12:14
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: South Africa
Boat: Hunter 38
Posts: 21
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Anchor Bridal to stop yawing
I currently own a Hunter 38 which sails up and down when at anchor. I use a 10mm chain with 16mm x 50 m rode combo to offset any snatching in heavy weather and have heard of using a bridal to help minimise the constant yawing,Firstly does a bridal minamise yaw ?and secondly how does one attach the bridal to the anchor rode? using a full chain one can use a mantas hook etc.
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01-02-2016, 14:00
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Hobart
Boat: Alloy Peterson 40
Posts: 3,919
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Re: Anchor Bridal to stop yawing
In my experience a bridle on a mono doesn't help much, if any due to the narrow bow, but it still might be worth a try, you can rolling hitch a bridle line onto your warp, or use a dyneema prussic loop.
Other approach's might be to rig a riding sail aft, drop another anchor or a pile of chain under the bow, or hook some sort or drag device, like a big fender onto the warp near the bow.
The stretch of the warp is a big part of the problem. More chain would help reduce sailing at anchor.
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01-02-2016, 15:00
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
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Re: Anchor Bridal to stop yawing
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Originally Posted by Force Five
I currently own a Hunter 38 which sails up and down when at anchor. I use a 10mm chain with 16mm x 50 m rode combo to offset any snatching in heavy weather and have heard of using a bridal to help minimise the constant yawing,Firstly does a bridal minamise yaw ?and secondly how does one attach the bridal to the anchor rode? using a full chain one can use a mantas hook etc.
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i think a woman in a white wedding dress isnt gonna be any help at all. nor will the bridal party, which is made of women in dresses supporting the bride.
you might consider a BRIDLE, however, as yawing, which is what you are complaining about, is damped by a BRIDLE.,
and there are many threads on this topic. you can see them when you speel the word bridle correctly.
ps welcome.
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01-02-2016, 15:10
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: On board Sarah, currently lying in Jacksonville, FL
Boat: Pearson, 424, 42', Sarah
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Re: Anchor Bridal to stop yawing
I often use two chain snubbers as a bridle on my P424, but it does little to stop the sailing at anchor. It does provide a fair lead on the snubber that is taking most of the strain when the boat sails to one side or the other. A single snubber can sometimes rub against the stem.
So I use two snubbers when the boat is sailing a lot at anchor, but not to have any significant effect on that sailing.
John
Edited to add: Here is a link to a picture of that bridle arrangement. As you can see the angle between the snubbers is very small and does not exert much a restraining force on the sailing at anchor.
http://www.svsarah.com/Sailing/Image...326_155529.jpg
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02-02-2016, 11:49
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: South Africa
Boat: Hunter 38
Posts: 21
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Re: Anchor Bridal to stop yawing
Nice one Zeehag e posting late at nite does not help my speeling 
will do a search in the morning when braan sells are more astute
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17-02-2016, 18:52
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Southport CT
Boat: Sabre 402
Posts: 2,222
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Re: Anchor Bridal to stop yawing
We've found that dragging a bucket or two off the transom helps to stop yawing around at anchor. Make sure they have strong handles!
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17-02-2016, 20:53
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
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Re: Anchor Bridal to stop yawing
My wife was invited to a bridle shower.
Everyone had brought their horse.
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17-02-2016, 21:39
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Port Credit, Ontario or Bahamas
Boat: Benford 38 Fantail Cruiser
Posts: 5,718
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Re: Anchor Bridal to stop yawing
Running a snubber off to one side cured the problem for me over the last 25yrs. it holds the stem slightly off the wind.
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17-02-2016, 22:25
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Good question
Boat: Rafiki 37
Posts: 12,986
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Re: Anchor Bridal to stop yawing
Interesting ... we always set two snubbers; rolling hitches to chain, tied to port and stbrd bow cleats. They're closely but not evenly set. This arrangement definitely dampens yawing on our full keeler. Although I have to admit, it's not a bit issue for our boat.
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18-02-2016, 06:09
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Maine
Boat: Kadey Krogen 42
Posts: 197
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Re: Anchor Bridal to stop yawing
If you really want to stop hunting at anchor, try anchoring off the stern. Your boat will sit still at anchor and you can up anchor by your self from the cockpit.
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18-02-2016, 09:20
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Now based on Florida's West coast
Boat: Pearson 34-II
Posts: 2,465
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Re: Anchor Bridal to stop yawing
Quote:
Originally Posted by boatpoker
Running a snubber off to one side cured the problem for me over the last 25yrs. it holds the stem slightly off the wind.
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Boatpoker,
Can you explain this more clearly? I'm not certain I understand your diagram. Our boat sails, at times, up to 45 degrees in a strong blow. We have tried every combination known to civilized Man. Perhaps you can provide a less civilized approach? Perhaps this concern with "civilized" has been our problem since the beginning. Thanks
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18-02-2016, 09:23
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Now based on Florida's West coast
Boat: Pearson 34-II
Posts: 2,465
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Re: Anchor Bridal to stop yawing
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Originally Posted by AnsleyS
If you really want to stop hunting at anchor, try anchoring off the stern. Your boat will sit still at anchor and you can up anchor by your self from the cockpit.
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Ansley,
I'd hate to retrieve my hook from the stern in a strong blow with building waves unless you have a double-ender. Have you tried it?
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18-02-2016, 09:38
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One of Those
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Colorado
Boat: Catalac 12M (sold)
Posts: 3,218
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Re: Anchor Bridal to stop yawing
Run a line from an amidships cleat to a point on your anchor line and make roughly an equilateral triangle out of the geometry? Basically establish a baseline between your bow and the amidships cleat. Kinda like a breast line, but I don't know the correct term. Snubber?
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18-02-2016, 09:57
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Onboard (Boot Key Harbor)
Boat: Cornado 25
Posts: 494
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Re: Anchor Bridal to stop yawing
Solitaire dances at anchor like a drunken gypsy.... Stern (instead of bow) anchoring works very well in light weather. Other option we use is a riding sail on the backstay. Cheap one here... Anchor Riding Sail
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18-02-2016, 10:02
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Now based on Florida's West coast
Boat: Pearson 34-II
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Re: Anchor Bridal to stop yawing
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canibul
Run a line from an amidships cleat to a point on your anchor line and make roughly an equilateral triangle out of the geometry? Basically establish a baseline between your bow and the amidships cleat. Kinda like a breast line, but I don't know the correct term. Snubber?
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Canibul,
Can you provide a drawing?
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