About NOT power setting the anchor

[valhalla360]

Originally Posted by dave907

This might help you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion

It's not an issue of understanding the laws of motion.

If you come in at full throttle doing 15-20kt, dropping the anchor on the fly never easing up on the throttle...sure, that might do some damage but it in no way invalidates the idea of power setting the anchor.

Power setting the anchor as described in this thread...if you are at risk of damaging the fiberglass, you need to reinforce the fiberglass.

If you drop the anchor, let out a reasonable scope and then back down on it in a reasonable manner, there should be zero risk of damaging the fiberglass. Obviously, a boat with a pair of 500hp diesels doesn't need to go full throttle to get an effect similar to a sailboat with a single 30hp giving it 25% throttle to set the anchor.

[malbert73]

Ok, last night anchored near NYC between city island and rat island- here’s why you powerset. I set lightly and felt the anchor grab well (go Mantus with just tip engaged). Light air most of night and thank goodness squalls only brought rain and not wind.
What a surprise this morning when this came up. From now on power set with full reverse.
Oh yes, there was a rock reef 200 yards downwind…

[boat driver]

Originally Posted by malbert73

Ok, last night anchored near NYC between city island and rat island- here’s why you powerset. I set lightly and felt the anchor grab well (go Mantus with just tip engaged). Light air most of night and thank goodness squalls only brought rain and not wind.
What a surprise this morning when this came up. From now on power set with full reverse.
Oh yes, there was a rock reef 200 yards downwind…
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thats extra charge. And I assume you brought it ashore and disposed of properly?
Power setting, not power setting, a good amount of opinions which suggests that every location worldwide may be interesting. This examples why the charts suggest samples of the bottom and coast pilots suggest local anchoring tips.
Anchoring is not one method of set and forget=- it is a standard of seamanship which includes watchkeeping after weighing risk of dragging.

[Nepidae]

Interestingly, we had a similar occurrence on the Chesapeake in Still Pond.

What are the odds of dropping an anchor in the middle of a truck tire?

Our 55# Rocna dropped right in the middle so it was first, quite stuck around the plow of the anchor and initially, we thought someone was going to need to go overboard to free the anchor, BUT, our newly affixed LoFrans Tigres windlass did the job of pulling the whole mess to the surface.

Second, it was a PITA to get it off the anchor.

Don't have a picture, just the fond memories.

[malbert73]

Originally Posted by boat driver

thats extra charge. And I assume you brought it ashore and disposed of properly?

Power setting, not power setting, a good amount of opinions which suggests that every location worldwide may be interesting. This examples why the charts suggest samples of the bottom and coast pilots suggest local anchoring tips.

Anchoring is not one method of set and forget=- it is a standard of seamanship which includes watchkeeping after weighing risk of dragging.

No I saved it for an extra fender- wanna raft up? [emoji3]

[Shooze]

Why are charter boats able to be licensed with such inadequate ground tackle ? The equipment supplied is fine for a lunch stop but totally inadequate when required to be deployed in earnest.

We were heading up to Kithnos from Seriphos on an old Ocean Star 56 when the starboard cap shroud parted. We sent a picture to the charter company who were confident the mast would hold up - we were not so sure

So we set about nursing the boat back up to the charter base in Alimos, motoring at 3 knots with a tiny bit of main set to steady the boat in lumpy seas and 40 knots of wind. By the time we had made the crossing to the mainland it was 9 p.m. and we were already very tired. The prospect of another 25 miles and entering the marina in the darkness of the early hours in a F9 with no assistance did not appeal, so I looked at the chart for some refuge for the night.

There were 2 cats and a mono at Palea Fokea and they looked pretty snug for the night despite the wind shrieking through the cove from the north west. We took down the sprayhood to reduce windage and deployed the undersize CQR and every link of chain in the locker. The anemometer showed 53 knots and the wind howled derision at our puny ground tackle as we dragged and reset, dragged and reset, dragged and reset etc. The cove has a rocky lee shore to the south and the cats were both anchored close in, so it was only the mono that we had to avoid and we managed to stay out of his way and did not foul his chain as the drag and reset process went on through the night. The wind gradually abated to the mid 30s and we were able to get some respite when the anchor finally held around 3.30 a.m.

Before I get pilloried for endangering another vessel or scouring the sea bed, we stayed to leeward of the anchored mono so we were dragging away from him and toward the lee shore, as uncomfortable as it was. Any potential damage to the sea bed is regrettable and while my thinking may have been clouded by exhaustion, it felt like we were in a survival situation from the vessel's perspective.

All this drama could have been avoided by the outlay for a suitably sized, modern anchor with high holding power - and a re-rig after 10-15 years would have been helpful

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Shooze

Why are charter boats able to be licensed with such inadequate ground tackle ? The equipment supplied is fine for a lunch stop but totally inadequate when required to be deployed in earnest.

We were heading up to Kithnos from Seriphos on an old Ocean Star 56 when the starboard cap shroud parted. We sent a picture to the charter company who were confident the mast would hold up - we were not so sure

So we set about nursing the boat back up to the charter base in Alimos, motoring at 3 knots with a tiny bit of main set to steady the boat in lumpy seas and 40 knots of wind. By the time we had made the crossing to the mainland it was 9 p.m. and we were already very tired. The prospect of another 25 miles and entering the marina in the darkness of the early hours in a F9 with no assistance did not appeal, so I looked at the chart for some refuge for the night.

There were 2 cats and a mono at Palea Fokea and they looked pretty snug for the night despite the wind shrieking through the cove from the north west. We took down the sprayhood to reduce windage and deployed the undersize CQR and every link of chain in the locker. The anemometer showed 53 knots and the wind howled derision at our puny ground tackle as we dragged and reset, dragged and reset, dragged and reset etc. The cove has a rocky lee shore to the south and the cats were both anchored close in, so it was only the mono that we had to avoid and we managed to stay out of his way and did not foul his chain as the drag and reset process went on through the night. The wind gradually abated to the mid 30s and we were able to get some respite when the anchor finally held around 3.30 a.m.

Before I get pilloried for endangering another vessel or scouring the sea bed, we stayed to leeward of the anchored mono so we were dragging away from him and toward the lee shore, as uncomfortable as it was. Any potential damage to the sea bed is regrettable and while my thinking may have been clouded by exhaustion, it felt like we were in a survival situation from the vessel's perspective.

All this drama could have been avoided by the outlay for a suitably sized, modern anchor with high holding power - and a re-rig after 10-15 years would have been helpful

Never had an issue with my 35 pound CQR on 5/16 chain. But undersized is never an option .