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08-06-2020, 10:09
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#16
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Plymoith MA
Boat: Endeavour Catamaran 36'
Posts: 47
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Re: Trucker who plan join sailing
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Originally Posted by Robyd
Not planing to retire yet. Still too young. My plans are , since wife and kids are in Philippines I plan sail there and with them cruise Philippines, South Pacific and Asia for now. Of course if they want to sail with me. And for truck I’ll keep him, I can get monthly parking and let him sit , anytime I short on money I can come back do few months and go back out again. Part time trucking I guess. Let’s face it , money runs out sailing. And I looking forward not have traffic anymore. Need brake from road
How do you like living aboard? More space inside than in small cab?
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More room than in a truck cab that's for sure but the bunks are still surrounded by three walls!
Like a lot of people we can't even imagine moving back to land at this point.
Long passages are different though, or even long trips for that matter.
We have a 36 ft catamaran.
Coming down the ICW this past fall was like driving a truck cross country at 6 miles an hour.
Our opportunities to get outside and actually sail were few and far between this past fall.
But, we love it!
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08-06-2020, 10:11
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#17
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Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 16
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Re: Trucker who plan join sailing
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Originally Posted by Adelie
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For now passage sailing, have no idea bout budget yet
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08-06-2020, 10:15
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#18
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Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 16
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Re: Trucker who plan join sailing
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Originally Posted by Mike Cunningham
More room than in a truck cab that's for sure but the bunks are still surrounded by three walls!
Like a lot of people we can't even imagine moving back to land at this point.
Long passages are different though, or even long trips for that matter.
We have a 36 ft catamaran.
Coming down the ICW this past fall was like driving a truck cross country at 6 miles an hour.
Our opportunities to get outside and actually sail were few and far between this past fall.
But, we love it!
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I can only imagine beauty of ocean and being on sailboat. , I do plan get monohull between 30 to 40 ft
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08-06-2020, 10:26
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#19
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Cabo Verde
Boat: Bruce Roberts Spray, 36' Steel Junk-Rigged Schooner
Posts: 1,245
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Re: Trucker who plan join sailing
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Originally Posted by Robyd
For now passage sailing, have no idea bout budget yet
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No doubt some will disagree, but if you are planning long single-handed passages, but stil want space for your family to come sailing, you should be looking at around 36-42' monohull with a full keel. The fibreglass boats from the 60-80's are all pretty solid as well as being good value for money. Obviously you will want to work up slowly to it before you consider an ocean passage.
I highly recommend a wind vane auto pilot over an electrical one, as they are easier to fix, and manning the helm 24/7 is not possible single handed.
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08-06-2020, 10:33
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Re: Trucker who plan join sailing
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Originally Posted by Captn_Black
No doubt some will disagree, but if you are planning long single-handed passages, but stil want space for your family to come sailing, you should be looking at around 36-42' monohull with a full keel. The fibreglass boats from the 60-80's are all pretty solid as well as being good value for money. Obviously you will want to work up slowly to it before you consider an ocean passage.
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Good info I apretiate , I saw one and I kinda don’t mind do some remodeling. I did thought getting between 60-80 ‘s , to be honest don’t want get expensive and newer

I’m interested in this one and she needs a lot of work before passages
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08-06-2020, 10:40
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#21
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Plymoith MA
Boat: Endeavour Catamaran 36'
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Re: Trucker who plan join sailing
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Originally Posted by Robyd
I can only imagine beauty of ocean and being on sailboat. , I do plan get monohull between 30 to 40 ft
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Sounds like you will be looking for a boat that is set up for single-handing. Also, I guess I should mention (don't know where you're based) that sailing to The Philippines from the US is an...um... AMBITIOUS undertaking for any sailor, even the most experienced.
Do you have sailing or boating experience or an agenda for getting same?
Have you settled on a geographic area to begin your journey?
Obviously, some places will afford you better access to ALL aspects of our sport/lifestyle than others.
For instance, if you're in a landlocked state, you can learn the rudiments of boating/sailing on lakes fine, but you'll not get to deal with the salt water environment, weather, tides, currents etc, which when SAILING affect every aspect of your day, week and trip.
This forum can be a world of knowledge for you as you embark on your adventure.
Hope to share your success.
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08-06-2020, 10:53
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#22
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Join Date: Jun 2020
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Re: Trucker who plan join sailing
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Originally Posted by Mike Cunningham
Sounds like you will be looking for a boat that is set up for single-handing. Also, I guess I should mention (don't know where you're based) that sailing to The Philippines from the US is an...um... AMBITIOUS undertaking for any sailor, even the most experienced.
Do you have sailing or boating experience or an agenda for getting same?
Have you settled on a geographic area to begin your journey?
Obviously, some places will afford you better access to ALL aspects of our sport/lifestyle than others.
For instance, if you're in a landlocked state, you can learn the rudiments of boating/sailing on lakes fine, but you'll not get to deal with the salt water environment, weather, tides, currents etc, which when SAILING affect every aspect of your day, week and trip.
This forum can be a world of knowledge for you as you embark on your adventure.
Hope to share your success.
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I live in Clearwater fl and I do plan crossing later not right away. Now I’m reading pilot books watching you tubers sailors , practicing my mind first. When I get one will do obviously remodeling and practice on short runs , try get some experience. I know can’t happen everything over nite , but slowly it will. I’m determined
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08-06-2020, 10:59
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#23
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Location: Cabo Verde
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Re: Trucker who plan join sailing
Yea, you don't necessarily need to purchase a boat that is already set up for single handing, you can fit her out yourself, though as well as research, the best way to do that is to gradually increase the length of your passages - you will soon learn what you need to make life comfortable and safe. Yea, the ship you linked is thinking along the right lines imo. Though if you want to sail with your family you probably don't want smaller than that.
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08-06-2020, 11:11
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#24
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Location: Cabo Verde
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Re: Trucker who plan join sailing
I would estimate, assuming that you're a relatively handy guy, that you would need about 10k to prepare an otherwise sound boat for single handing. About 3-4k of that is the wind vane auto pilot. So if you do find one that is already set up for single handing, then factor that into the cost.
You'll be wanting to install things such as jacklines and related safety gear such as harnesses, a liferaft, EPIRB, a wind and/or solar system with suitable battery bank that is sufficient to keep your essential luxuries and other systems powered even if you are sailing on a tack with no direct run for most of the day, and probably a bunch of other small alterations - leecloths for your berth, good quality non-skid surfaces for the deck, etc etc.
Am happy to advise myself, as I'm sure are others, and you will find plenty of books on the subject too.
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08-06-2020, 16:46
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#25
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Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 16
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Re: Trucker who plan join sailing
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Originally Posted by Captn_Black
I would estimate, assuming that you're a relatively handy guy, that you would need about 10k to prepare an otherwise sound boat for single handing. About 3-4k of that is the wind vane auto pilot. So if you do find one that is already set up for single handing, then factor that into the cost.
You'll be wanting to install things such as jacklines and related safety gear such as harnesses, a liferaft, EPIRB, a wind and/or solar system with suitable battery bank that is sufficient to keep your essential luxuries and other systems powered even if you are sailing on a tack with no direct run for most of the day, and probably a bunch of other small alterations - leecloths for your berth, good quality non-skid surfaces for the deck, etc etc.
Am happy to advise myself, as I'm sure are others, and you will find plenty of books on the subject too.
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I really love this site, you can get so much good advice from experienced sailors. Really appreciate info.
I’m owner operator and doing a lot repairs my self in order to save some cash. Not good with fiberglassing , but I believe I can learn as I go. It is my plan to do mostly refitting my self as much I can. Engine department and around engine i got no problems. And that boat, dealer told me it is strong boat good for passages but need a lot of work before it goes. Honestly I don’t mind do some work, that way you know you done it , makes you feel secure
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09-06-2020, 04:24
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#26
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Cabo Verde
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Re: Trucker who plan join sailing
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Originally Posted by Robyd
I really love this site, you can get so much good advice from experienced sailors. Really appreciate info.
I’m owner operator and doing a lot repairs my self in order to save some cash. Not good with fiberglassing , but I believe I can learn as I go. It is my plan to do mostly refitting my self as much I can. Engine department and around engine i got no problems. And that boat, dealer told me it is strong boat good for passages but need a lot of work before it goes. Honestly I don’t mind do some work, that way you know you done it , makes you feel secure
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I absolutely agree, the price reduction on boats that need work is based on having to pay others to do the work, to some extent, so being able to do it yourself means that you can save a lot of cash. Plus doing the work yourself helps you become familiar with the ship and learn new skills. I would still steer clear of boats with osmosis though, especially without a survey, as the problem can be more extensive than it appears.
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10-06-2020, 15:41
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#27
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Lake City MN
Boat: C&C 27 Mk III
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Re: Trucker who plan join sailing
You know how you learn new skills? By doing the same activity over and over. :-)
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16-06-2020, 07:43
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#28
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Re: Trucker who plan join sailing
I’m looking at boats and see one and not sure if is good for ocean passages. Owner said it has few soft spots on deck. Is that concerning
https://www.ebay.com/itm/193517489314
Thx
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16-06-2020, 08:04
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#29
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Re: Trucker who plan join sailing
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Originally Posted by Robyd
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Hey, nah, if you're going to learn glassing, rather on the deck than below the waterline 
But I personally would prefer a fuller keel and a skegged rudder. Price is good though, and opinions differ on full keels, but I think an unskegged rudder is just increasing the chances of a total-loss/abandonment disaster at sea.
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16-06-2020, 08:09
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#30
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Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 16
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Re: Trucker who plan join sailing
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Originally Posted by Captn_Black
Hey, nah, if you're going to learn glassing, rather on the deck than below the waterline 
But I personally would prefer a fuller keel and a skegged rudder.
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Thanks greatly appreciate. Who knows how is underneath
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