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Old 05-12-2021, 04:50   #31
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Re: New and lost...is the road to the happiness clinic?

Escape Plan,

Welcome!

I must add my voice to the chorus; walk the docks, take a few classes, join a YC, or at least put up a flyer volunteering to crew.

I also recommend checking it YouTube, pick a boat and you'll find someone posting a video of it.

I also recommend Captain Q's channel. He does the window shopping for the rest of us. Dozens of different boats and styles. (if I refer his channel one more time I should get an honorable mention from him lol)
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This one's easy --- join (cheap$) the Lake Monroe Sailing Association in Sanford -
great spot, great club, and great people - ACTIVE sailing community, and WELCOMING to new members, and always looking for crew - based on location, small (ish) boats in fleet, but a great, CLOSE, safe place to learn from some very experienced, competitive sailors


http://www.flalmsa.org/


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Old 07-12-2021, 07:20   #33
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I'm sure there will be more than a few scarey moments. Also sure that 'perfect' boat will take you a few years to accomplish as nothing really is.
And didn't Paul Attriedes say that about fear? Just let it pass through you.
One of the things I look forward to is being offshore where I can see no land. The thought that my survival is in my own hands is an exhilarating circumstance. Not sure it will be as much fun as looking down at the speedometer on a motorcycle and seeing it past the 100 MPH mark. But I am certain it will be similar and probably safer.


Indeed, Paul he did say that.
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Escape Plan,

Welcome!

I must add my voice to the chorus; walk the docks, take a few classes, join a YC, or at least put up a flyer volunteering to crew.

I also recommend checking it YouTube, pick a boat and you'll find someone posting a video of it.

I also recommend Captain Q's channel. He does the window shopping for the rest of us. Dozens of different boats and styles. (if I refer his channel one more time I should get an honorable mention from him lol)
Thank you for the recommendations. I've seen Captain Q's channel. Funny old man...loves his Dinty Moore. I'll make sure I have a can for visitors. Vegetarian here. That and the stuffed dogs are a hoot. He knows a lot about the boats he shows. Pity I'm in Florida and he's way up north.
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This one's easy --- join (cheap$) the Lake Monroe Sailing Association in Sanford -
great spot, great club, and great people - ACTIVE sailing community, and WELCOMING to new members, and always looking for crew - based on location, small (ish) boats in fleet, but a great, CLOSE, safe place to learn from some very experienced, competitive sailors


http://www.flalmsa.org/


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Thank you very much for this. I will definitely be checking it out. Sanford is close to me so I can do weekends for sure.
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I know a guy actively involved with this group. You join as a member, and have access to the boats. They have a Catalina 22. This isn't far from Orlando and would seem like a good way to get introduced to it.
Thank you very much for the recommendation. I will definitely check it out.
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And didn't Paul Attriedes say that about fear? Just let it pass through you.
Nah, it was Peter Puppy

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FWIW, I agree/sympathize with most of the comments above. But ... as far as your itinerary ... the Caribbean is lovely and vast. You have left many phenomenal places off your short list. You'll find magic in many places. But your short list??? Jamaica and Haiti are both borderline hostile although beautiful in their own right. Unfortunately, Venezuela is truly "no go".

Good luck and much fun.
Yeah, the more I look the more I will probably pass on Haiti. Pity I really wanted to spend some time there. At one point they were the richest colony in the entire world...well they weren't rich, all the money went back to France. As a Haitian friend told me, 'without Haiti there would be no modern France'.

Jamaica will be a careful choice. Been there many times and as long as it's not the election season and I stay out of Kingston, everything is fine. Friendliest people this side of Ireland. But in some places people live on less than $5 a day. Desperate people do desperate things.

I was fortunate enough to be in Caracas implementing software for a large multinational corp when Hugo Chavez ran and won the presidency for the first time. One hell of a party after he won. Three days of music, booze/weed, and food in the streets of Caracas. Had a senior executive take me to some of Chavez's rallies. It was definitely a high water mark for hope. Regrettably I may have to give it a pass. Not sure I'd get a friendly reception. But there is Margarita Island...that might work.

I only have one long distance goal, Buenos Aires. Did a six month project there and loved it. But that will take at least a couple of years before the skill level is close enough to give it a try. Will try to hook up with some better sailors for the trip.

As for the approach to sailing, as a project manager, I learned that the perfect anything is not a cost effective approach. The difference between a 95% effective boat choice and a 99% choice is only 4 percent. However, you remember those functions in school where the line get's close to the Y axis but never touches it? The X axis is effectiveness but the Y axis is effort and it's a lot more than 4% more effort, sometimes it can be 100% more or worse. So I'll get everything 'close enough'. The boat, the skills, enough to get started, then go.

The moment I retired my perspective of time unexpectedly changed. I now see it not as time, but as time remaining and I'm in a race to stuff in as much as I can.

Escaped from Mississippi to Australia as a child and I've been nomadic ever since. But with retirement came a return to the US and the end of corporate sponsorship. Sailing was the logical choice to continue the adventure.

32 countries and counting.

As for destinations, as long as nobody is shooting at me, I'm good.
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Nah, it was Peter Puppy

https://youtu.be/m9t9_anttOY
Hahaha....good one.

Thanks for the chuckle.
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Good plan. Welcome. Go for it!
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As for the approach to sailing, as a project manager, I learned that the perfect anything is not a cost effective approach. The difference between a 95% effective boat choice and a 99% choice is only 4 percent. However, you remember those functions in school where the line get's close to the Y axis but never touches it? The X axis is effectiveness but the Y axis is effort and it's a lot more than 4% more effort, sometimes it can be 100% more or worse. So I'll get everything 'close enough'. The boat, the skills, enough to get started, then go.

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I think you're describing what I learned was called "The Excess Perfection Curve."


A truly Slippery Slope, eh?
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I think you're describing what I learned was called "The Excess Perfection Curve."


A truly Slippery Slope, eh?
Absolutely agree!

I worked for years with a 10% bonus scheme for my projects: on time and under budget and passing the final customer satisfaction survey = $$. I missed the bonus on my first two projects as the project manager and the project team was not happy with me. But after that I dialed it in and never missed another one.

Aiming for perfection was why we missed it in both instances. I learned to make sure the 999,999,999 regular instances are covered first, then deal with the 1 in a million occurrence that some middle management idiot is over emphasizing in the requirements gathering meetings.

'Obscura ad nauseum' we called it.
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Good plan. Welcome. Go for it!
Thanks...I look forward to a finite list of mistakes, hopefully none of them fatal.

But as I've told management, I'd rather die in a storm on a sailboat than in an Intensive Care Unit from Covid struggling to breathe, or wetting my bed in an old folks home.

She thought that was an improvement over my previous idea, dying in my first ever bank robbery.

(she married a smart ass with a dark sense of humor)
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Welcome.

I would suggest updating your profile with your boat make & model or “Looking” in the "Boat" category. This info shows up under your UserName in every post in the web view. Many questions are boat and/or location dependent and having these tidbits under your UserName saves answering those questions repeatedly. If you need help setting up your profile then click on this link: https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...ml#post3308797

I would happily help more if the link above is not enough.
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