Hello from the great white north

[whay]

Hello all new user on a journey to sell it all and move to the water.
I look forward to interacting with the members here and gaining some insight as I embark on this new adventure.

[GordMay]

Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, whay.

[Huey2]

Welcome aboard!
Bring your sailboat down to Marco Island Florida for a nice warm winter. We are from the Lake St. Clair area in the summer.

[whay]

Thanks for the invite I Wish I could but work ties me here. We're currently in the process of chucking it all and moving on aboard in the spring. The search begins


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[Curious Sailor]

Welcome! Sounds like an awesome journey!


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[RigelKent]

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[Pegu Club]

Welcome aboard,
It's a beauty way to go.

[whay]

Update on the journey
About to sign the papers to sell the house. Going boat hunting this weekend.
We decided to buy a condo as well and depending on how the summer goes either renting it out or moving in for the winter.
This will be our primary residence for the summer and perhaps beyond. See if the wife enjoys it as much as I do.
Looking at several different boats and hoping someone can pass on any info about them.
Tartan offshore ketch is the one I most fancy.
C&C 38 landfall speaking to the broker has some deck issues.
C&C 40 aft cabin. Sale is pending but could fall through depending on survey.
A Hugh's aura 40' a little over my budget of 50 k Canadian
And a Pearson 40 which is across the lake in Buffalo at RCR yachts.
Our long term goal is to get a boat that will comfortably house the 2 of us and our 2 old huskies, sail nicely around Lake Ontario for the next 5 years then pulling up the anchor and globetrotting around the world. Something I could single hand if nessacery
Having reviewed the above boats and according to Tom Dove sail calculator they are all blue water capable.
If any other boats come to mind please mention them.

Thanks all



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[AiniA]

My first reaction is that you are limiting your search to Lake Ontario and this is not a good idea. There just are not a lot of 'blue water' boats on the lake to choose from. When we were looking we checked out boats from Maine to Annapolis before finding our Bristol in eastern Connecticut. You will find that boats there are typically better-equipped than those on the lake. One problem with LO boats is that wear and tear is so limited that you will find 30+ year old boats with lots of working, original equipment. On the coast, especially New England boats are kept up to date, often with something close to an open cheque book. Boats greater than 40' under 50k loonies are likely to be pretty tired which means a lot more money and time needed to fix them up. Of the boats you list the C&Cs probably are best. The 40 might have much greater draft than you want for the lake or ICW.

[Island Time O25]

Originally Posted by AiniA

My first reaction is that you are limiting your search to Lake Ontario and this is not a good idea. There just are not a lot of 'blue water' boats on the lake to choose from. When we were looking we checked out boats from Maine to Annapolis before finding our Bristol in eastern Connecticut. You will find that boats there are typically better-equipped than those on the lake. One problem with LO boats is that wear and tear is so limited that you will find 30+ year old boats with lots of working, original equipment. On the coast, especially New England boats are kept up to date, often with something close to an open cheque book. Boats greater than 40' under 50k loonies are likely to be pretty tired which means a lot more money and time needed to fix them up. Of the boats you list the C&Cs probably are best. The 40 might have much greater draft than you want for the lake or ICW.

On the other hand a boat that spent 20-30 years in salt free environment and with a short season to boot is probably a better alternative to a salt water one. As far as electronics, unless the buyer is super lucky and finds a boat which had its electronics replaced very recently (less than 3-5 years), I don't see a big difference between 30 and 10-15 year old packages as both are candidates for replacement anyway.

[redhead]

I am torn about the advice to expand your search area since I'm not familiar with the Great Lakes area but am fairly sure there are a ton of boats for sale there. We were in NY and spent over 4 years (probably more like 7 years) looking for "the"boat. We had a particular type of boat in mind, not mainstream so they were as rare as hen's teeth.

We lived on Yachtworld and For Sale by Owner websites and traveled to
Rhode Is, Annapolis, Oriental NC, Charleston, Ft. Lauderdale, Marathon,San Diego, San Francisco, Poulsbo WA and Pender Harbour, British Columbia. In retrospect we wasted many thousands of dollars and weeks,perhaps months on this search and although we're very happy with what we ended up with I wouldn't recommend this as the best way to find a boat.

My point being you are in a huge boating area and there must be hundreds of boats that fit your criteria. Considering that you have narrowed your search to some pretty fine boats you should be able to limit the areas you search in to something a bit more reasonable than we did. I think, without realizing it at the time, "the search" became a hobby for us and delayed our actually buying the boat.

Good luck to you!

[uncle stinkybob]

Hey to the great white north!! Welcome aboard! It's sound's like you have the dream and the way's and means to reach out and grab them. I wish you good luck on finding the right boat.
Fair Winds!!

[Ungvar]

I think Ontario seems like a reasonable place to look for boats, considering C &C's and Hughes boats were built in Ontario. There are no shortage of boats by either manufacturer in excellent condition on Lake Ontario, especially around Toronto and Kingston.

Unless electronics were replaced within the last couple of years, they'll be obsolete by the time you head down south in 5 years. You don't need much in the way of electronics on Lake Ontario, the lake is like a fish bowl, for the most part deep right up to the shore.

Buying a boat for Lake Ontario based on soon to be obsolete electronics seems to be a mistake to me. Buy a boat in good shape, for Canadian dollars, close to home, without the need to pay import tarrifs. No need to go to salt water to buy a boat, have your currency killed by the exchange rate, pay Transport costs and pay import tarrifs including on electronics you really won't need for another 5 years.

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[whay]

So the saga continues. House is sold and we've moved to an apartment wife needs a land base for now.
Closing date is soon and once we have the cash it's time to kick some keels and get the boat of our dreams.
I here you all about expanding my search outside of Lake Ontario and to that note I think I might of found something of interest. Unfortunately it is sitting in Huntington New York. It,s a C&C 42 landfall and listed on POP yachts. Hoping that someone on here might have seen her or know a little more about her. Boat name is WhiteCap . From the photo and the little info I can gather on this particular boat it looks like a good fit for us. Price is right and well within our budget. So that being said if anyone has any inside on this boat please let me know. We were also looking at a person 35 and a CS 36 last weekend at the port credit boat show but they seemed to be a little on the small size. Oh and if anyone is looking for a tartan 26 she'll be up for sale soon.

WHAY


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[whay]

Boat bought
C&C 38 landfall
Picking her up from Kingston this week.


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