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Old 14-06-2021, 18:01   #31
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That's for a smaller, lighter boat, and not very good either IMO. You might also consider a good flatbed trailer, like those for hauling cars, that is modified with an adjustable cradle. I considered that for my own boat at one time.
Hm... Seller He says "Yes, it is very much available
I had a 27ft O'Day on it that weighed at 6700 lbs"

Maybe he realized it wasn't a good idea
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OK here is a shot of the adjustable stands I was trying to explain. This is WAY more boat and much larger stands than you need, but if you look closely at the way the stands work, and they could be made out of 2x6s or 2x8s and 4x6s, (with a variety of pin locations as well as the screw in the pin) they can work on land or be adapted to a flatbed trailer.
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OK here is a shot of the adjustable stands I was trying to explain. This is WAY more boat and much larger stands than you need, but if you look closely at the way the stands work, and they could be made out of 2x6s or 2x8s and 4x6s, (with a variety of pin locations as well as the screw in the pin) they can work on land or be adapted to a flatbed trailer.
You can get there from here
Ooohhh... nice stands!!! (covet covet covet)

True, could be made.........
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Hm... Seller He says "Yes, it is very much available
I had a 27ft O'Day on it that weighed at 6700 lbs"

Maybe he realized it wasn't a good idea
Yeah, no. That trailer is *not* for your boat!

I'm so frustrated, as I've found a bunch of sailboat stands for sale - but they're all in the bloody US!!!

Hrumph.
LW77

So there's a set of 6 stands in Oshawa:
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-boat-parts-t...oat/1565778865

They've been posted for a month, so maybe you could offer half...?
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Old 14-06-2021, 18:33   #35
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I'm currently between Lansdowne and Mallorytown, and not picky about where I go except for cost (dockage, and getting her there, though I could launch near and find help to sail to a marina anywhere on lake Ontario or the Rideau or the Ontario part of the St Lawrence)
I only suggest anchoring out because dockage is not cheap in your area. If you can afford it, then definitely would be better to be tied off for now.

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I've got one of those big rolling stairs (braked, leveled, and blocked!!!) at the stern... i think I can get the mostly unsecured mast off... Would that be better than getting on to secure it? Not sure how it'd be moved then though... Alongside her???
I missed this, but how are you moving the boat from its current location to the water? And where are you launching? The mast for a G26 is not very large, so should be easy to hoist on the truck that eventually moves you down to the water.

So yes, if you can get the mast off without having to be on the boat, I'd do that. The boat just looks so unstable ... it would be a tragedy to have it topple over now.
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LittleWing77... I know?!?!?! (cursing Murphy)
It's awfully nice of you to have looked (hug)

Mike... Right... Will be anchoring as much as possible as soon as possible and very much obliged for your suggestions

I'll find someone (else!) who can move her... Been too occupied with this to start that but will start calling around tomorrow

The mast... Would remove a little weight... Would check to see if it's really going to come out that easily and if so, can probably find someone in a couple days to carefully pass it down to

Or leave it... Not climbing anywhere to untie anything

At least the wind is always against the discombobulating side, plus there's a big barn right there... Thank you wind
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Oh dear, I've missed several messages, i do apologize

She's still standing, and I'm working on figuring this out... Please insert a lot more thankyous here, and I'll answer more again later

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You have been getting a lot of solid advice about the stands. I have little to add.

I lost a boat when she blew over with poorly placed stands. In a good yard. They made a mistake. No one was hurt.

It does happen. More often than is usually discussed.

Iíve seen well placed stands. Iíve also seen yards that only use diagonally braced timbers to support quite large boats. You might consider a diagonal brace across your timber supports so the tops cannot move fore and aft.

And congratulations!
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You have been getting a lot of solid advice about the stands. I have little to add.

I lost a boat when she blew over with poorly placed stands. In a good yard. They made a mistake. No one was hurt.

It does happen. More often than is usually discussed.

Iíve seen well placed stands. Iíve also seen yards that only use diagonally braced timbers to support quite large boats. You might consider a diagonal brace across your timber supports so the tops cannot move fore and aft.

And congratulations!
Yes, it does happen. One time all the boats on the hard at a yard in NZ went down like a row of dominoes in a windy storm.

Do be careful, Ann. Too much at stake in terms of your own welfare not to.

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Btw, I did not mean to imply that the diagonally braced timberís were not solid. The yard I am thinking of in Scotland used only timberís and the boats there were solid stable and safe.
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Good evening,
Proper sailboat stands coming from Marine Outfitters asap... 1-3 days but I told them the story and they're going to try to get them here quicker

So far, marinas are full... Gananoque, for a week, beginning the 22... Don't want to wait that long

Tomorrow find somewhere to launch her and just go find that anchorage spot... Timing will depend on finding a boatmover i guess, better make those calls first

Meanwhile everything looks the same... But I'm in a tent at my friends' farm, with a big old barn 100 feet away, sailboat between... And I'm questioning every single one of the barn/farm noises that I've been hearing for six weeks now, listening for the sound of fibreglass...!!! Not sleeping much i admit
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Good evening,
Proper sailboat stands coming from Marine Outfitters asap... 1-3 days but I told them the story and they're going to try to get them here quicker

So far, marinas are full... Gananoque, for a week, beginning the 22... Don't want to wait that long

Tomorrow find somewhere to launch her and just go find that anchorage spot... Timing will depend on finding a boatmover i guess, better make those calls first

Meanwhile everything looks the same... But I'm in a tent at my friends' farm, with a big old barn 100 feet away, sailboat between... And I'm questioning every single one of the barn/farm noises that I've been hearing for six weeks now, listening for the sound of fibreglass...!!! Not sleeping much i admit
Very glad to hear you're getting proper stands from Marine Outfitters. They are a good chandler. I should know given the amount of money I've left with them over the years .

Those stands will be a good investment for your boating life. And it's not hard to re-sell them if it comes to that.

Gan is a great marina, but not cheap. Of course, nothing is cheap in your area. There are lots of good anchorages in the area though ... as long as you have good anchor gear. Which begs the question: What do you have for anchor(s) and rode?
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Is there an unofficial map of unofficial anchorages??? I'd appreciate all sorts of that advice!

Also maybe company while getting used to things

Anchor and rode... Um... They do exist... I don't remember what sort or how long... Things like that are partly why an initial piece of time at a marina would've been useful, oh well

And yes about earlier suggestions of prioritizing the to-do list... Did... Would've been nice to do everything, oh well again! Can certainly wait, yes

And about props for the props... Looking for more useful pieces
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I mentioned a few anchorages in that PM. I forget what guides are available for the area. Probably the Ports books, but maybe others.

Take a look at Active Captain. They have a number listed: https://activecaptain.garmin.com/en-US/pois/39875

If you like I can get you others in the Bay of Quinte area. But there are a lot of Thousand Island and Lake Ontario sailors who know a lot more than I do. I passed through there a number of years ago.

With regard to anchor gear, you really need to make sure you've got good stuff. You probably have some sort of rope to chain rode. You need to pull it all out, examine it closely to make sure it is in good shape. I would want at least 50' of chain, and at least another 150' of three-stand nylon rope.

And you've got to learn about anchors. You'll want a good one. The anchorages tend to get very weedy in the later summer in the Thousand Islands, so you don't want to reply on a Danforth. Ideally a good new-gen anchor is what you want (Spade, Mantus, Rocna, Excel...), but barring that a good Bruce would be fine. A CQR would be a third choice, but the others are better.

If you've not spent much time anchoring, it really would be good to go with someone who has.
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Haven't spent much time on a boat at all, nevermind st anchor, for more years than I should admit! But always knew I'd do this

You are full of helpful information... I'm making notes... Better make you tea someday
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