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20-05-2023, 08:26
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Greetings from NN. VIRGINIA
Hello
Newbie here from Newport News, VA. Excited about learning and researching about 26-39 foot Express Cruisers!
Cheers!
Bill
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20-05-2023, 14:14
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Re: Greetings from NN. VIRGINIA
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Originally Posted by NewportNewbie
Hello
Newbie here from Newport News, VA. Excited about learning and researching about 26-39 foot Express Cruisers!
Cheers!
Bill
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Isn't an Express Cruiser a power boat? If so, you are on the wrong forum. This is a sailing forum.
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20-05-2023, 17:15
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Re: Greetings from NN. VIRGINIA
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Originally Posted by Roniszoro
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You might want to try the hull truth dot com and if there are any particular brands you are looking for, there’s a good chance there’s an owners forum for the brand. Google is your friend.
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22-05-2023, 07:14
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Re: Greetings from NN. VIRGINIA
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Originally Posted by Roniszoro
Isn't an Express Cruiser a power boat? If so, you are on the wrong forum. This is a sailing forum.
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Then maybe it should say that some where as the title is "Cruisers Forum."
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16-06-2023, 17:31
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Re: Greetings from NN. VIRGINIA
Welcome to CruisersForum!
I would suggest updating your profile with your general location and your boat make & model or “Looking” in the "Boat" category. This info shows up under your UserName in every post in the web view. Many questions are boat and/or location dependent and having these tidbits under your UserName saves answering those questions repeatedly. If you need help setting up your profile then click on this link: https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...ml#post3308797
I would happily help more if the link above is not enough.
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16-06-2023, 17:34
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Re: Greetings from NN. VIRGINIA
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Originally Posted by NewportNewbie
Then maybe it should say that some where as the title is "Cruisers Forum."
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Agreed!
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16-06-2023, 17:53
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Re: Greetings from NN. VIRGINIA
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Originally Posted by Roniszoro
Isn't an Express Cruiser a power boat? If so, you are on the wrong forum. This is a sailing forum.
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Wrong, this is not a sailing forum, this is a cruising forum. By cruising we mean water-borne vessels intending to make long to very long trips, ie 100s to 1,000s of nm. While power vessels are a little light on the ground here there are a number.
Regarding express cruisers. My understanding is that they are semi-displacement hulls meaning they are significantly faster than displacement hulls such as trawlers but significantly larger and more comfortable than planing hulls.
The tradeoff is vastly increased fuel usage compared to displacement hulls. Consequently the are rarely used for long distance cruising.
So then the OP needs to consider do they have the money to feed the fuel tank and if not would the rather go fast close to home or go a long ways slowly.
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A house is but a boat so poorly built and so firmly run aground no one would think to try and refloat it.
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17-06-2023, 03:09
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Re: Greetings from NN. VIRGINIA
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Originally Posted by Adelie
Wrong, this is not a sailing forum, this is a cruising forum. By cruising we mean water-borne vessels intending to make long to very long trips, ie 100s to 1,000s of nm. While power vessels are a little light on the ground here there are a number.
Regarding express cruisers. My understanding is that they are semi-displacement hulls meaning they are significantly faster than displacement hulls such as trawlers but significantly larger and more comfortable than planing hulls.
The tradeoff is vastly increased fuel usage compared to displacement hulls. Consequently the are rarely used for long distance cruising.
So then the OP needs to consider do they have the money to feed the fuel tank and if not would the rather go fast close to home or go a long ways slowly.
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Well I'll be ..... I thought it was for sailors. Perhaps that was because, for the 14 years I have been on this forum, I never saw a posting regarding power boats. I stand corrected.
Ron
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17-06-2023, 05:01
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Re: Greetings from NN. VIRGINIA
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Originally Posted by Roniszoro
Well I'll be ..... I thought it was for sailors. Perhaps that was because, for the 14 years I have been on this forum, I never saw a posting regarding power boats. I stand corrected.
Ron
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As I wrote, power boaters are a bit light on the ground here but there are a number of them. Top of my head those that come to mind include Simi 60, MVWeebles, Orion Jim, Ranger 42 and Ranger 58c.
Under “The Fleet”, “Power Vessels” is one of the big sub forums.
https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f109/
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17-06-2023, 05:21
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Location: Maryland, USA
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Re: Greetings from NN. VIRGINIA
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Originally Posted by Adelie
Regarding express cruisers. My understanding is that they are semi-displacement hulls meaning they are significantly faster than displacement hulls such as trawlers but significantly larger and more comfortable than planing hulls.
The tradeoff is vastly increased fuel usage compared to displacement hulls. Consequently the are rarely used for long distance cruising.
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Often, "express cruiser" means a "single-story" (rancher?) powerboat, i.e., no flybridge. Usually a planing hull. Mostly somewhere between 24-65' LOA, although I suspect 30-40' is the more common range.
Sea Ray (brand) at one time actually had a boat model called "express cruiser" -- but more recently those morphed into "Sundancer" models.
Other common brands would be Cruisers, Formula, Wellcraft, Silverton, Four Winns, Regal, Tiara... and the saltier-looking "Down East" versions from Hinckley, Sabre, Back Cove, MJM and such like... and probably another 10-30 brands I can't remember off-hand.
There are "express sportfish" (sportfishers), too, ditto planing hull, ditto without a flying bridge. Viking is a common brand for those, but I don't remember if they actually name them that or not.
Long distance cruising in an "express cruiser" is not uncommon, including boats doing the north-to-south (and reverse) migrations along the US east coast and the AICW. I think they're not completely uncommon along the Great Loop, too; ALGCA would have stats on that.
I've only been here for about 9 years (ranger42C was me, with previous boat). And we've only cruised somewhere like around 8,500 NM on our various powerboats over the years. So far.
Welcome to OP! Depending on size/mission, the suggestion to check our thehulltruth.com can be useful, and folks at trawlerforum.com (sister site) can also be helpful even if usually a bit more laid back compared to "express."
-Chris
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17-06-2023, 06:28
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Re: Greetings from NN. VIRGINIA
I'm not going anywhere. If the moderators don't like me posting here, then they can organize the freaking forum to make it clear what TYPE of vessel this forum is for.
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17-06-2023, 06:32
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Re: Greetings from NN. VIRGINIA
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Originally Posted by ranger58sb
Often, "express cruiser" means a "single-story" (rancher?) powerboat, i.e., no flybridge. Usually a planing hull. Mostly somewhere between 24-65' LOA, although I suspect 30-40' is the more common range.
Sea Ray (brand) at one time actually had a boat model called "express cruiser" -- but more recently those morphed into "Sundancer" models.
Other common brands would be Cruisers, Formula, Wellcraft, Silverton, Four Winns, Regal, Tiara... and the saltier-looking "Down East" versions from Hinckley, Sabre, Back Cove, MJM and such like... and probably another 10-30 brands I can't remember off-hand.
There are "express sportfish" (sportfishers), too, ditto planing hull, ditto without a flying bridge. Viking is a common brand for those, but I don't remember if they actually name them that or not.
Long distance cruising in an "express cruiser" is not uncommon, including boats doing the north-to-south (and reverse) migrations along the US east coast and the AICW. I think they're not completely uncommon along the Great Loop, too; ALGCA would have stats on that.
I've only been here for about 9 years (ranger42C was me, with previous boat). And we've only cruised somewhere like around 8,500 NM on our various powerboats over the years. So far.
Welcome to OP! Depending on size/mission, the suggestion to check our thehulltruth.com can be useful, and folks at trawlerforum.com (sister site) can also be helpful even if usually a bit more laid back compared to "express."
-Chris
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You guys will argue over the definition of water if given the chance. FFS...get over it.
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17-06-2023, 07:21
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Re: Greetings from NN. VIRGINIA
I don’t know much but it says cruisers sailing forum where I’m reading this thread
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17-06-2023, 08:56
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Re: Greetings from NN. VIRGINIA
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Originally Posted by NewportNewbie
You guys will argue over the definition of water if given the chance. FFS...get over it.
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Huh? No argument from me. My note was simply fodder to maybe help inform other posters. And not dogma.
So what boats you like?
-Chris
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17-06-2023, 15:20
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Re: Greetings from NN. VIRGINIA
Lol.
NewportNewbie sounds like an angry troll. Get over it Newbie these folks were trying to help you.
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