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13-07-2017, 01:13
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: earth
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Who's right?
Fisherman, or marina resident?
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13-07-2017, 02:09
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 10,280
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Re: Who's right?
If there is a private sign..."No Fishing" and they are tresspassing on private property in order to Fish then the fishermen are in the wrong.
But that is not the way to handle it! So they are both wrong
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13-07-2017, 02:11
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Registered User
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Re: Who's right?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelagic
But that is not the way to handle it! So they are both wrong
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I thought it was pretty ballsy of the guy in the boat.
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13-07-2017, 09:15
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: New Orleans
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Re: Who's right?
The guy in the motorboat looks kind of silly burning fuel for no particular reason. I would probably have to go get a fishing pole and lawn chair, and fish from a couple of piers down just to get him really twisted. I guess that would be trolling, though. LOL!
If there are "No Tresspassing" signs and "No Fishing" signs, then call the local gendarmes. I like "Parking for Residents Only. All Others will be Towed".
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1979 Bruce Roberts Offshore 44, BRUTE FORCE
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13-07-2017, 09:35
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
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Re: Who's right?
if folks donot wish you to fish under their noses why harrass em??
both are just plain rude. the resident does not own the water, and the fisherman has a lot of water for fishing., he can go elsewhere.
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13-07-2017, 09:36
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Slidell, La.
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Re: Who's right?
Maybe a lawyer might stumble in, but at least in Louzianna, I was under the impression that navigable waterways were open to all boats (the filmmaker was in a boat, fishing a tournament)...
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13-07-2017, 10:06
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Lakewood Ranch, FLORIDA
Boat: Alden 50, Sarasota, Florida
Posts: 3,630
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Re: Who's right?
You're both wrong!
My wife is always right. She told me ...
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13-07-2017, 10:19
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
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Re: Who's right?
Any ass that thinks he owns the water is wrong. It's amazing how many land residents go nuts if you anchor in front of their place.
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13-07-2017, 10:28
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Re: Who's right?
Quote:
Originally Posted by S/V Illusion
You're both wrong!
My wife is always right. She told me ...
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You, too? Must be catching...
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Catalina 34 #224 (1986) C34IA Secretary
Mill Bay, BC, SR/FK, M25, Rocna 10 (22#) (NZ model)
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13-07-2017, 10:34
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: New Orleans
Boat: Bruce Roberts 44 Ofshore
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Re: Who's right?
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbunyard
Maybe a lawyer might stumble in, but at least in Louzianna, I was under the impression that navigable waterways were open to all boats (the filmmaker was in a boat, fishing a tournament)...
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An interesting thing about "Navigable Waterways" in Louisiana. It is legally a Navigable Waterway under the law only if it was a waterway capable of supporting commerce in the year 1812. Or maybe 1814, I dont remember which. Most marinas in Louisiana are therefore not actually Navigable Waterways, but Private Property. Also, a marina is usually not part of a route from one place a boater might want to be, to another. It is usually a dredged basin or else an area protected by a breakwater with an entrance through it. It is not on the way from somewhere to somewhere else. Right of Innocent Passage does not apply unless said boater has business being in the marina, e.g. he is a tenant, customer, or authorized visitor. Just because it is full of water and you have a boat does not imply any particular right to be there. And I won't even go into the fishing which is a real can of worms.
Nevertheless, law enforcement agencies can be reluctant to do anything about such intruders if there are no "No Trespassing" type warning signs posted. It is important to have appropriate signage if you really want to keep folks out.
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1979 Bruce Roberts Offshore 44, BRUTE FORCE
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13-07-2017, 10:41
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Port Credit, Ontario or Bahamas
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Re: Who's right?
For a number of years my slip was 50' from a favoured rip rap fishing wall. Twice I had to remove fish hooks from my dog when she was sleeping at the bow. I also had my canvas torn. I will not discuss my tactics but they were successful
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13-07-2017, 10:53
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Palmetto, FL
Boat: "Wanderlust" -- 1999 Jefferson Rivanna 52'
Posts: 874
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Re: Who's right?
Always amazes me when people go out of their way to make things harder than they need to be.
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13-07-2017, 11:11
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 10,280
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Re: Who's right?
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrowleyMonster
........ It is important to have appropriate signage if you really want to keep folks out.
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Lol...Here in SUBIC, that can be a challenge!
We had a commercial waterfront property with a swimming beach that became a construction dumping ground and heavy drinking place on weekends....
So we cleaned and fenced it and I emailed contractor with specific Signage instructions:
"Private Property
Trespassers will be Prosecuted!"
Well I guess someone was feeling their Catholic upbringing and made it Stronger and somewhat editorial ! [emoji83]
Anyways, even that didn't work!
They cut holes in the fences to get in.
Came by banca boat
Built lean to shelters to sell snacks
The resort neighbour next door had to call the police weekly when the bonfire parties got out of hand.
Eventually I decided to just let it overgrow with thick thorny saplings and weeds to make it less attractive.
Its More Fun in the Philippines!
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13-07-2017, 17:38
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Boat: Island Packet 349
Posts: 671
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Re: Who's right?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelagic
Trespassers will be Prosecuted!"
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It is not what the sign says.
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13-07-2017, 18:24
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#15
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 10,280
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Re: Who's right?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lost Horizons
It is not what the sign says.
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That was my point!... First thought was....no one expects the Spanish Inquisition.
https://youtu.be/7WJXHY2OXGE
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