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03-07-2024, 04:49
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London, Ontario
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Re: Unfortunately..
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Originally Posted by AA3JY
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Why are you not surprised?
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03-07-2024, 08:14
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Location: Minnesota
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Re: Unfortunately..
BKH's denizens do not enjoy a reputation for purity, honesty, forbearance, and respect in their dealings with each other or with the surrounding community.
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03-07-2024, 08:31
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: dirt dweller in Jacksonville Fl
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Posts: 20,958
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Re: Unfortunately..
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Originally Posted by AA3JY
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I have spend 4 winter seasons in Marathon on a mooring and even know Eric etc. You never this of him and his kids always seemed happy and in general even though they were an anchored boat they weren't in the "trashy" end of the scale (if you have not been there you wouldn't understand the scale). This just shows you can never tell that it in no way has anything to do Marathon.
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03-07-2024, 09:29
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Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Langley, WA
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Re: Unfortunately..
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Originally Posted by Jammer
BKH's denizens do not enjoy a reputation for purity, honesty, forbearance, and respect in their dealings with each other or with the surrounding community.
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BKH? What does that stand for?
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03-07-2024, 10:17
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Join Date: May 2020
Location: SoCal
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Re: Unfortunately..
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Originally Posted by stormalong
BKH? What does that stand for?
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Boot Key Harbour
On a separate note:
What could possibly be wrong in judging and stereotyping a large swath of people based on their location?
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03-07-2024, 10:31
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Location: Langley, WA
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Re: Unfortunately..
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Originally Posted by Iron E
Boot Key Harbour
On a separate note:
What could possibly be wrong in judging and stereotyping a large swath of people based on their location?
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Thanks for that. I am not a Floridian so didn't have a clue.
On your separate note anyone that can pay the bills can own a boat. Unfortunately there is no moral or ethical test to be a member of society until they are caught crossing the line. I hear that child molesters are really hated in prison because many inmates were abused as children. Maybe the guy and his wife won't survive their prison terms.
The emotional scars left on the children are truly horrendous. I hope they fare well.
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03-07-2024, 16:35
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, in Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
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Re: Unfortunately..
The thing that chills me deeply is that such people appear "normal" cruisers. You could interact with one, and not necessarily experience a gut warning. I have known personally 4 pedophiles. One of them was so smooth, a seemingly typical sailor, and we (some of his friends) were all shocked and horrified by what he had done, which we learned when he went to jail.
I view this OP's first post as a slam against Florida, but I also think that though these criminals were rightly jailed, people who cruise with their kids need to take the implicit warning on board: wherever you go in the world, there may be hard to pick out pedophiles, so please teach your kids how to avoid them. Most cruisers are salt of the earth types, but clearly there are some who are not.
Ann
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03-07-2024, 17:14
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: dirt dweller in Jacksonville Fl
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Re: Unfortunately..
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Originally Posted by JPA Cate
The thing that chills me deeply is that such people appear "normal" cruisers.
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Eric of the article was never a cruiser. Not that it matters, he was a disabled vet.
In the end no one knew him I guess
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03-07-2024, 18:14
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Location: aboard, in Tasmania, Australia
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Re: Unfortunately..
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In the end no one knew him I guess
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Yes, poor man. But the danger for children not his own will still be real when he comes out of jail. And, there are all the others we cannot see.
An anchored boat looks like an anchored boat. One is not likely to ask oneself if there is a pedophile aboard, and the odds are slim, of that.
Ann
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03-07-2024, 18:21
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Join Date: Sep 2014
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Re: Unfortunately..
The human being in me says castrate the guy and throw the book at him. Or two or three. But the attorney in me says let the process play out in the court and let's hear what the judge and the jury have to say.
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10-07-2024, 05:16
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: dirt dweller in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,958
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Re: Unfortunately..
If USA land people want to shock themselves:
You can search your address for convicted sexual offends in the area. In my recent house buying process I was getting property history reports of those I was interested in this was part of it. I had no idea just how many sexual offenders there are.
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10-07-2024, 05:29
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Massachusetts
Boat: Finnsailer 38
Posts: 6,101
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Re: Unfortunately..
Yes, we have met people out cruising that later we learned bad things about. In some cases as bad as this one, but that does not mean you can paint an entire community, location, or type of person "not surprising." Just read the news and you will note there are some very prominent people living in the best neighborhoods convicted of serious and disturbing crimes.
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17-07-2024, 17:29
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Location: aboard, in Tasmania, Australia
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Re: Unfortunately..
The moderators have closed this thread. CF is not the place for a prolonged discussion of paedophilia.
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