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01-09-2020, 17:54
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Re: The New Joke Thread
wah......yes, you are correct.....do I need to go sit in the corner....years of college down the drain....
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01-09-2020, 17:57
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Re: The New Joke Thread
although .....wait....a perfect circle can have a tangent line go both ways from a particular point.......but yes, the example is not a perfect circle...never thought I'd have to do math here on the cruising forum...
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01-09-2020, 18:00
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Re: The New Joke Thread
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Originally Posted by MicHughV
although I might be wrong...trying to remember my math here....to join the perimeters of two different curves together requires the tangents to match...that right side curve may not be a radiused arc...
ok, I give up....
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Only closed curves have perimeters. That is not apparently a closed curve. It may be if it has enough parameters (To quote an aphorism attributed to John von Neumann "With four parameters I can fit an elephant, and with five I can make him wiggle his trunk”.
That's not different curves joined together. It's one curve.
And it's certainly not a "radiused arc" since an arc is part of a circle - and that's no circle.
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01-09-2020, 18:06
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Re: The New Joke Thread
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Originally Posted by MicHughV
although .....wait....a perfect circle can have a tangent line go both ways from a particular point.......but yes, the example is not a perfect circle...never thought I'd have to do math here on the cruising forum...
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Any tangent to any curve goes "both ways" from its "particular point".
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01-09-2020, 18:07
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Re: The New Joke Thread
I'm trying to remember my schoolboy geometry...but alcohol has dulled my brain...
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01-09-2020, 19:37
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Re: The New Joke Thread
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Originally Posted by MicHughV
although .....wait....a perfect circle can have a tangent line go both ways from a particular point....
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Tangents are lines, and lines don't have directions.
They don't go one way or the other way or both ways. They just are.
They're lines, not vectors.
That said, what do you get when you cross a mosquito and a mountain climber?
Math Jokes Explained - Numberphile
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01-09-2020, 20:22
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Re: The New Joke Thread
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Originally Posted by StuM
No, a major fail.
1. The curve is far from linear, but that is immaterial.
2. A tangent: a straight line or plane that touches a curve or curved surface at a point, but if extended does not cross it at that point.
A tangent to a "linear curve" is the same as the curve itself (linear means of the form ax+y i.e. a straight line).
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Why is the line on the curve not tangent to the curve ?
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01-09-2020, 20:35
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Re: The New Joke Thread
This is The Joke Thread and you five have managed to go 14 posts having a discussion/argument about the mathematics in one joke. You are all humor impaired aren't you?
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Originally Posted by GILow
I will not correct an inaccurate maths joke, I will not correct an inaccurate maths joke, I will not correct an inaccurate maths joke...
Ooooh, that was close. My therapy is coming along well.
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Originally Posted by StuM
Oh, go on, please.
I don't see the inaccuracy
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Originally Posted by MicHughV
I think it has something to do with that curve....the curve does not appear linear to me...ie, that line may be tangential to the curve on the left, but not the curve on the right...do I get a pass grade
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Originally Posted by MicHughV
if curves have different radii.......they should also have different tangent lines....the tangent should be perpendicular to the radius....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MicHughV
although I might be wrong...trying to remember my math here....to join the perimeters of two different curves together requires the tangents to match...that right side curve may not be a radiused arc...
ok, I give up....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StuM
No, a major fail.
1. The curve is far from linear, but that is immaterial.
2. A tangent: a straight line or plane that touches a curve or curved surface at a point, but if extended does not cross it at that point.
A tangent to a "linear curve" is the same as the curve itself (linear means of the form ax+y i.e. a straight line).
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Originally Posted by StuM
See my previous post. Any curve will have an infinite number of tangents. One for each point on the curve.
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Originally Posted by MicHughV
wah......yes, you are correct.....do I need to go sit in the corner....years of college down the drain....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MicHughV
although .....wait....a perfect circle can have a tangent line go both ways from a particular point.......but yes, the example is not a perfect circle...never thought I'd have to do math here on the cruising forum...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StuM
Only closed curves have perimeters. That is not apparently a closed curve. It may be if it has enough parameters (To quote an aphorism attributed to John von Neumann "With four parameters I can fit an elephant, and with five I can make him wiggle his trunk”.
That's not different curves joined together. It's one curve.
And it's certainly not a "radiused arc" since an arc is part of a circle - and that's no circle.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StuM
Any tangent to any curve goes "both ways" from its "particular point".
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Originally Posted by MicHughV
I'm trying to remember my schoolboy geometry...but alcohol has dulled my brain...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdege
Tangents are lines, and lines don't have directions.
They don't go one way or the other way or both ways. They just are.
They're lines, not vectors.
That said, what do you get when you cross a mosquito and a mountain climber?
Math Jokes Explained - Numberphile
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_S
Why is the line on the curve not tangent to the curve ?
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01-09-2020, 20:41
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Re: The New Joke Thread
I am so, so very sorry I started all that.
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01-09-2020, 20:42
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Re: The New Joke Thread
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Originally Posted by Adelie
This is The Joke Thread and you five have managed to go 14 posts having a discussion/argument about the mathematics in one joke. You are all humor impaired aren't you?
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Things just got off on a little tangent, consider lightening up.
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01-09-2020, 20:42
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Re: The New Joke Thread
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Originally Posted by Dave_S
Why is the line on the curve not tangent to the curve ?
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That was what was behind my original question, One can only assume that GI Low meant it was not a tangent when he said "I will not correct an inaccurate maths joke"
As far as I can tell, given the size of the original image, it is a tangent.
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01-09-2020, 20:47
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Re: The New Joke Thread
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Originally Posted by Singularity
Things just got off on a little tangent, consider lightening up.
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I am mocking them. At this moment I am taking humor from that.
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01-09-2020, 20:52
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Re: The New Joke Thread
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I am mocking them. At this moment I am taking humor from that.
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01-09-2020, 20:55
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Re: The New Joke Thread
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Originally Posted by Adelie
This is The Joke Thread and you five have managed to go 14 posts having a discussion/argument about the mathematics in one joke. You are all humor impaired aren't you?
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Yep! But we also enjoy esoteric discussions that occasionally drift for a while from the main thread purpose. That's the nature of threads. You see it here frequently
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01-09-2020, 20:56
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Re: The New Joke Thread
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Originally Posted by GILow
I am so, so very sorry I started all that.
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So what's the inaccuracy?
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