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Old 15-12-2019, 16:44   #46
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Extreme left wing, extreme right wing ...... same sick bird.
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A few years ago I spent a winter motorcycling across Canada and then through much of the western and mid states. We spent about six months traveling through 17 states in all, camping (tenting) most of the way.

We spent a lot of time in campgrounds, and met a lot of wonderful Americans. But despite traveling through some of deeply Republican states (is that red or blue? ... I can never remember) we met very few people who were not in my political (lefty) camp. Almost everyone seemed to be a Democrat.

I began to wonder (and still wonder) ... is camping the domain of Democrats? Where were all the Republicans?
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A few years ago I spent a winter motorcycling across Canada and then through much of the western and mid states. We spent about six months traveling through 17 states in all, camping (tenting) most of the way.

We spent a lot of time in campgrounds, and met a lot of wonderful Americans. But despite traveling through some of deeply Republican states (is that red or blue? ... I can never remember) we met very few people who were not in my political (lefty) camp. Almost everyone seemed to be a Democrat.

I began to wonder (and still wonder) ... is camping the domain of Democrats? Where were all the Republicans?

Hotels my dear boy, hotels.
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Ok, one more: a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged.

And a liberal is a conservative who's been arrested.
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In hotels.
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In hotels.

Hmmm...


When I was young I was more conservative, and as I age I become more liberal. This may because when I was young I knew everything, but now I do not.



When I was young I camped more. In middle age it was hotels. Now I sail and cruise, which is somewhere in between.


I guess I don't fit the model. Screw the model.
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Hmmm...


When I was young I was more conservative, and as I age I become more liberal. This may because when I was young I knew everything, but now I do not.



When I was young I camped more. In middle age it was hotels. Now I sail and cruise, which is somewhere in between.


I guess I don't fit the model. Screw the model.
In keeping with the premise of the thread, twas making a joke...

Like "What's a mud room... though on further thought, it was, in fact, my arch-'conservative' best friend who introduced me to the concept 25 years ago.

So does cruising induce liberalism?

Doan be puttin' yoself in no model box doh, I bet you sometimes got libral tenduncies and sometimes got conservtive tenduncies, just like all duh rest uvus has.
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In hotels.

I think Bob beat you to this. You both may be right. I truly was increasingly aware of how copacetic my lefty-Canadian-liberal views were to virtually all the people we met on our journey. And this took us through the heartland of Republican America.

BTW, I did finally start to encounter a few right-of-centre Republicans while camped in Texas. There was one fellow who proudly flew a massive American flag on one end of his trailer, and an equally massive Texas flag on the other.

For some reason we connected, and over a couple of weeks had many wonderful conversations. Much like the ones here, they sometimes got emphatic, but never nasty or mean-spirited. No minds were changed, but I a greater appreciation of differing perspective was gained.
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A Kinsley gaffe occurs when a political gaffe reveals some truth, that a politician did not intend to admit. The term comes from journalist Michael Kinsley, who said,[I] "A gaffe is when a politician tells the truth – some obvious truth he isn't supposed to say."
I think this gives me a good excuse to mention my favourite "political gaffe" (way more subtle than RG's "truth isn't truth) and that was the explanation by Donald Rumsfeld about 'known unknowns and unknown unknowns'. I recall it was widely ridiculed at the time but I now see it as somewhat profound and well-suited to voyage planning, amongst many other circumstances (the weather in 2 weeks time is a 'known unknown', whereas rigging failure is an 'unknown unknown')
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The idea that human brains (or any other species’ brains) are naturally endowed with the ability to know what is right and wrong is a fallacy. Morality and ethics must be learned because they are not inherently present at birth. This is even encoded into our laws such that the very young are not accountable for their actions because they may have not yet learned right from wrong.
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... the explanation by Donald Rumsfeld about 'known unknowns and unknown unknowns'. I recall it was widely ridiculed at the time but I now see it as somewhat profound ...
Though I'm no fan of Rumsfeld, I thought it was (& is) very profound.
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A few years ago I spent a winter motorcycling across Canada and then through much of the western and mid states. We spent about six months traveling through 17 states in all, camping (tenting) most of the way.

We spent a lot of time in campgrounds, and met a lot of wonderful Americans. But despite traveling through some of deeply Republican states (is that red or blue? ... I can never remember) we met very few people who were not in my political (lefty) camp. Almost everyone seemed to be a Democrat.

I began to wonder (and still wonder) ... is camping the domain of Democrats? Where were all the Republicans?
I think a couple things are going on here. In the field of generals while you were going through red states the people who live in those states dont camp in campgrounds. They camp in the backcountry to avoid the liberal tourists. I think a bigger thing we encounter a lot here is that the left are the cry babies who cant talk so most people dont engage them. Its maybe not ALWAYS fair. But its pretty fair that if you disagree with a leftie they are going to scream slurs and start crying. Easier to just avoid it all together than to have a pointless conversation wiht someone you dont know, who you not going to influence anyways.

As you said the Texan was able to disagree and still be pleasent.
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Gord,

Thanks a bunch for this thread. It’s refreshing to see us all look in the collective mirror.

Personally, I was always a liberal, but as I’ve aged I’ve just become weird. The ideas I have now did no mold and generally incomprehensible to common folks, even though I am undeniably 100% correct.
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Though I'm no fan of Rumsfeld, I thought it was (& is) very profound.
Rumsfeld deserves very little no credit for that phrase. It has been around since the mid 50s and I first heard it in the early 80s.

It is a very accurate way to consider risk management issues.
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