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21-12-2010, 17:05
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#166
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: San Juan Islands, WA
Boat: 1988 Brewer Three Seas 40' Pilothouse
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Lucas
I say when the world crashes the most valuable thing on your boat is going to be .................................................. .a fishing pole!
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And you know what the end of the world means......no limits:-))
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1988 40' Brewer Pilothouse
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21-12-2010, 17:33
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#167
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Port Ludlow Wa
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no no no
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Originally Posted by boatman61
He'll be logging in around 1030am 2moro
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Land fall at 9am the 24th...hung over till the 26th
Todd
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21-12-2010, 17:43
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#168
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
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if he has any sense he will landfall in tobago on the 24th
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21-12-2010, 18:22
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#169
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Nearly an old salt
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lefkas Marina ,Greece
Boat: Bavaria 36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfenzee
Back to the original thread a well equipped ocean cruising boat is almost completely self-sufficient..the only weaknesses being a heavy reliance on high tech gizmos. So if civilization does crash, those on boats will be alot better off and will be able to sail to corners of the world less effected.
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You can't seriously believe that. Firstly in any global major crash countries close their borders . That leaves you alone and adrift. Secondly you effectively become stateless and subject to the very onerous laws of any state you happen to come across.
If it goes pear shaped you are always best amongst your own.
Ultimately you can't just sail off into the blue yonder. You still need a functioning society. Do you think it's wise or moral to abandon your country if it was on it's knees.
Armageddon is a funny trait seemingly prevalent amongst the strongest!!
Btw those who think WW1 was started merely by killing a minor European royalty need to read more deeply. Large nations start wars not small ones ( they can't nobody takes them seriously enough) mostly it's done vis proxies
Dave
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21-12-2010, 18:30
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#170
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Senior Cruiser
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huh ?that was the gist of my post about ww1
pissy little straws/tip of the ice berg countries will kick it off.
see n/s korea now
brgds atoll
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21-12-2010, 18:48
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#171
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goboatingnow
You can't seriously believe that. Firstly in any global major crash countries close their borders . That leaves you alone and adrift. Secondly you effectively become stateless and subject to the very onerous laws of any state you happen to come across.
If it goes pear shaped you are always best amongst your own.
Ultimately you can't just sail off into the blue yonder. You still need a functioning society. Do you think it's wise or moral to abandon your country if it was on it's knees.
Armageddon is a funny trait seemingly prevalent amongst the strongest!!
Btw those who think WW1 was started merely by killing a minor European royalty need to read more deeply. Large nations start wars not small ones ( they can't nobody takes them seriously enough) mostly it's done vis proxies
Dave
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I think there is much truth in what you say, but there are other reasons to have a bug out boat. We live in a big city. If things go pear shaped then we might need to get out of town for a few days or weeks. Maybe won't need to do much more than hang out in the Delaware Bay until the loom of the fire light passes. I remember the MOVE incident all too well to not take that serious. MOVE - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Secondly, I don't have to leave the Country, but I may have to leave the City, into the country. Go North to Maine, or South to the Albamarale. May not be perfect but it is better than being in the City.
If I DO have to leave the country, well then I still have places to go, being a dual citizen and owning ocean front land in Canada.
I know that not everyone has the same resources I do. But then I didn't always have them either. It has been years in the making and exploiting all the good luck I could find.
Cheers
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21-12-2010, 19:32
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#172
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Bainbridge Island Washington on the Salish Sea
Boat: Hardin 45 Voyager Alice B., Gig Harbor 10, Orca 7 1/2 sloop, 16' sea kayak
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Nuclear war is the best way for modern man to bring about the end of the world. But thanks to my government, unlike the fallout shelter we had when I was a kid,I just have to stay in the house/car/boat for a couple of days and everything will be fine...because my government tells me so. I live 30 miles from the West Coast boomer base, so unless I figure it out beforehand, I ain't going nowhere, and my boats just outside on the bouy.If you live in the Salish Sea, You Are The TARGET...SORRY
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21-12-2010, 19:45
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#173
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
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best advice on this is;
on seeing the nuclear flash,place head between legs and kiss yr ass goodbye.
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21-12-2010, 20:11
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#174
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Philippines in the winters
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Posts: 11,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by capnorv
Nuclear war is the best way for modern man to bring about the end of the world. But thanks to my government, unlike the fallout shelter we had when I was a kid,I just have to stay in the house/car/boat for a couple of days and everything will be fine...because my government tells me so. I live 30 miles from the West Coast boomer base, so unless I figure it out beforehand, I ain't going nowhere, and my boats just outside on the bouy.If you live in the Salish Sea, You Are The TARGET...SORRY
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With as many countries that have the bomb now. Nobodies going to push the button! Because if they do, it'll be suicide. Hummmm! Maybe the Al-Qaeda?
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21-12-2010, 20:48
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#175
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Senior Cruiser
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what is the difference between a normal vinyl blow up doll and a palestinian blow up doll ?
the palestinian one blows it self up........
question is how do you combat people who will sacrifice there own lives for a cause?
hearts and minds?
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21-12-2010, 20:57
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#176
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Nearly an old salt
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lefkas Marina ,Greece
Boat: Bavaria 36
Posts: 22,801
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Cornwallis had exactly that problem with Washington
Dave
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21-12-2010, 21:01
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#177
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Nearly an old salt
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lefkas Marina ,Greece
Boat: Bavaria 36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by atoll
what is the difference between a normal vinyl blow up doll and a palestinian blow up doll ?
the palestinian one blows it self up........
question is how do you combat people who will sacrifice there own lives for a cause?
hearts and minds?
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But in practice the only say is to deal with the underlying issues you can't deal with it by acting against the persons directly ( since there's effectively an unlimited supply)
Please this isn't a political thread let's not bring Palestine onto this it's too tragic abd desperate a situation for a quick joke
Dave
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21-12-2010, 21:25
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#178
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
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best advice on this is;
on seeing the nuclear flash,place head between legs and kiss yr ass goodbye.
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22-12-2010, 05:17
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#179
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Apparently the US government has been thinking about this very issue.
U.S. Rethinks Strategy for the Unthinkable
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/16/sc...ewanted=1&_r=1
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22-12-2010, 05:34
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#180
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running down a dream
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Florida
Boat: cape dory 30 MKII
Posts: 3,115
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use pure gold bricks for ballast
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