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Old 28-07-2010, 08:49   #76
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I read the Bumfuzzle blog while I was working my 9 to 5, planning and dreaming about cruising. I never contributed to their pizza fund, although they definitely contributed to my attitude: If they can do it, I can definitely do it!

I'm always surprised when I get a comment on my blog, or a facebook follower, that is not already a friend or family member. Just like these forums, the blogs provide free information and/or entertainment, why not? I've got no problem with the voluntary contribution, although my money will likely go to my own pizza/beer fund.
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My wife tells me I'm rapidly sliding into "grumpy old man" status but I feel the need to stick up for those just getting started - at least in the US but I expect it's similar in much of the rest of the world.

I run a technology business that employs about a hundred folk in their 20's. These kids work much harder for less money (in real terms) than I did at the same age in the '70's and '80's. In fact, it's now expected that they will offer their labor for free at "internships" to hopefully get a better chance at a paying job. They have to interview and compete to work for nothing! What a raw deal!

When they get a job, they have much higher payroll taxes (to pay for the health insurance and retirement of the wealthiest age group in the US - the over 65's who on average collect far more from these kids than they ever "paid in" - and hardly ever think to say thank you to the people paying.). No one expects Social Security can continue to be such a good deal - and there aren't pensions anymore - so the kids also have to save for their own retirement. Geez, did you worry about retirement in your 20's?

While I was growing up, I knew a bunch of guys living on boats (not to mention watching Sonny Crocket on TV living on his Endeavor 42 in South Beach on Miami Vice ). The difference was that good boats were much more expensive then in real terms. The affordable ones were old and wood. They would sink the moment the rot got ahead of the owner. The apparently unlimited life of fiberglass has made cruising under sail a financially viable alternative to living out of the back of a VW van or hitchhiking through Europe with a backpack. Both of which I did. I'm in favor of a similar adventure for every young person. Sailing most of the way around the world in a delaminating boat is a great adventure!

I don't see how the Bumfuzzle's work is any different than the old and honorable occupation of being a travel writer - except that the new Paypal commerce model lets them sell their work at a lower price compared to a traditional travel book because a large publishing house doesn't keep 90% of the money. This doesn't make the writing any easier or less honest.

And, I'm generally optimistic. Climate change is a huge problem but not close to the global nuclear war I worried about. And these kids are much healthier and physically active than my generation. I expect they'll be in good physical shape to a much older age than us. That means they can look forward to a whole lot more years of sailing -- presumably sailing around in what will then be 100 year old fiberglass cruising boats

I can see the future! It's a 100 year old guy sailing his 100 year old Hunter


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Old 28-07-2010, 10:12   #78
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CarlF - of course you can afford to be optimistic - playing Tom Sawyer and having these kids pay you to paint your fence.

*cynical snort *
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Geez, did you worry about retirement in your 20's?
Ive still not thought about it and I'm 33 next week!!! lol
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Old 28-07-2010, 10:22   #80
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NYCSavage - when I left NYC and bought my boat up east, I liquidated my 401k!
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Salty, I only lived in SI for 3 months so never got a 401k lol
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So, I am putting a blog together......
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So, I am putting a blog together......
If you have interesting things to say, and interesting ways to say them, you will be in the same league as the Bumfuzzle Bums. If you're just throwing together some meaningless blog so that you have something to attach a PayPal button to so suckers will contribute to your cruising kitty - well, don't hold your breath.

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If you have interesting things to say, and interesting ways to say them, you will be in the same league as the Bumfuzzle Bums. If you're just throwing together some meaningless blog so that you have something to attach a PayPal button to so suckers will contribute to your cruising kitty - well, don't hold your breath.

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Plus, many have forgotten the math that Pat posted earlier showing how little that amount of money really is/was.

And that from a blog that was very popular with lots and lots of people reading.
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If you have interesting things to say, and interesting ways to say them, you will be in the same league as the Bumfuzzle Bums. If you're just throwing together some meaningless blog so that you have something to attach a PayPal button to so suckers will contribute to your cruising kitty - well, don't hold your breath.
Wait just one minute! Are you suggesting that making money requires effort?!? I thought that the blog was going to be a sure thing. I guess giving up on the lottery was a bit premature.
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Wait just one minute! Are you suggesting that making money requires effort?!? I thought that the blog was going to be a sure thing. I guess giving up on the lottery was a bit premature.
Giving up the lottery???!!! are you mad??

That should be the fundamental basis of your pension pot / 401K. Any idiot knows that What else are you going to retire on? Govt promises or IOU's?
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lots of bitterness here...
I think all the guys who are running a blog are adding to the accumulating knowledge of us all and I say more power to them.
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lots of bitterness here...
broadly supportive.

But somewhat irritated by those who simply turn up, flypost a few links, and then fook off back into the internet........to me that just appears as rude (and not in a good way )
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broadly supportive.

But somewhat irritated by those who simply turn up, flypost a few links, and then fook off back into the internet........to me that just appears as rude (and not in a good way )
It is called marketing
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Honestly...should anyone really care about "yet another cruise blog" - one way or another - to get so emotionally worked up? the number of "vanity blogs" out there is astonishing. Don't read...just do.
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