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02-06-2015, 09:36
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Re: Outdated Sea Traditions
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The only thing wrong with the Zep, is that its not an Alpine butterfly. The zep is a very good knot otherwise........for amateurs  |
Do you know I was musing in the shower trying to get the grease, duralac and iron oxide off my hide a while back, and was wondering exactly when someone would invoke the Alpine Butterfly on this thread…  
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02-06-2015, 09:40
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#92
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Re: Outdated Sea Traditions
Alpine Zeppelin Butterfly Kid
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02-06-2015, 09:47
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Re: Outdated Sea Traditions
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Alpine Zeppelin Butterfly Kid
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If I could work out how to dress it properly and had the time to do so, I would happy using the Alpine. As it is, the Zep needs a quick yank, while using the Alpine (a very nice knot when dressed well) means contemplating and wasting time on the wardrobe  .
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02-06-2015, 10:09
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Re: Outdated Sea Traditions
oh you r evil u knot tiers...all! indeed outdated traditions. anyone for velcro?
 
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02-06-2015, 10:29
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Re: Outdated Sea Traditions
Why rename sailors argueing over what knot is best rates right up there with what rigging knife is best both very active traditions. Where is yours mine is on my side on a lanyard
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02-06-2015, 10:29
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Re: Outdated Sea Traditions
The hijack continues.
I'm a convert. SWL's thread did it. And I'm a guy that only knows like 5-6 knots, not a knot geek.
The zep is da bomb. Used it lumberjacking in the backyard the other day. Thanks SWL.
Outdated traditions? Waiting till sundown for the G&T. WWJBD? It's 5 o'clock somewhere.
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02-06-2015, 10:36
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Re: Outdated Sea Traditions
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Originally Posted by newhaul
Why rename sailors argueing over what knot is best rates right up there with what rigging knife is best both very active traditions. Where is yours mine is on my side on a lanyard |
Sea Lawyers to a man, woman and parrot! 
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02-06-2015, 10:43
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Re: Outdated Sea Traditions
Photo of my decades long liveaboard friend's parrot, which, yes, rides on his shoulder pretty much wherever he goes… Outdated? Well… maybe. But great! 
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02-06-2015, 16:10
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Re: Outdated Sea Traditions
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Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass
If I could work out how to dress it properly and had the time to do so, I would happy using the Alpine. As it is, the Zep needs a quick yank, while using the Alpine (a very nice knot when dressed well) means contemplating and wasting time on the wardrobe .
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OK, the coffee is totally and massively spluttered all over the keyboard 
Someone please get us back to outdated traditions - invoked or preached or knot.
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02-06-2015, 16:21
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Re: Outdated Sea Traditions
Why, Wottie,
I believe reading "Carnal" for "Cardinal" might be considered creative reading!!!!
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02-06-2015, 21:05
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Re: Outdated Sea Traditions
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Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
The only thing wrong with the Zep, is that its not an Alpine butterfly. The zep is a very good knot otherwise........for amateurs |
The Zep is not prone to the Evil Imposter. I know which I'd rather trust other people to tie.
knotindex.webs.com/butterflybend.html
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02-06-2015, 22:16
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Re: Outdated Sea Traditions
Is it yet safe to peek out and resume the original topic ?
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02-06-2015, 22:17
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Re: Outdated Sea Traditions
Tradition: POSH.
Meaning: Port Outboard / Starboard Home
Possible Origins:
(1) British; Traveling London / India / London. First Class passengers booked passage on opposite side of vessel from equator / sunshine ensuring (somewhat) cooler cabins in pre-airconditioned days. Better cabin = higher price = only affordable by the richest = "Wow. She sure is POSH."
(2) Nautical (dubious): Oh heck... I can't find one....
Latest Know Usage: Member of an all girl's singing group.
Why this is related to the Original Topic: Pirates Rule !! 
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