Ocean acidifcation .

[mjscottinnc]

Originally Posted by newhaul

did you calculate the carbon footprint of your breath which on exhalation can be as high as 45k ppm.

Ah crap, I've got to recalculate again. Wait, I didn't take my BM into account either. Crap! Is it additive or subjective?

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by S/V Illusion

It has nothing to do with ocean water being “a strong base”. It is, however, a matter of buffering capacity which precludes acidification.

As to temperature, the folks at the Max Plank Institute, which isn’t beholden to grant money perspectives, have presented objective evidence corroborating the conclusion the expanding sun is substantially the cause of any quantifiable climate change and further, they note no quantifiable evidence exists to validate the claim anthropogenic climate change is real.

It’s sometimes entertaining listening to liberal arts majors argue climate science but it’s never educational.

This Max Planck Institute? These guys? Or is there another one?

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by mjscottinnc

Ah crap, I've got to recalculate again. Wait, I didn't take my BM into account either. Crap! Is it additive or subjective?

as long as you don't incinerate it then you have to count it as a reduction in carbon footprint as it is sequestering carbon in the Crap.

[Marc1]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

You're just playing word-games now. ph is a scale, one end of which is alkaline, the other is acidic. Add a little acid to an alkaline solution (acidification), it becomes less alkaline.

What a lot of hog wash.

acidification
/əsɪdɪfɪˈkeɪʃ(ə)n/
noun
the action or process of making or becoming acidic.
"the acidification of Arctic seas threatens organisms"

[ ha ha, trust wiki to lean left and warmist even if it is nonsense ]
So what is this "acidic" term (very technical)

acidic
/əˈsɪdɪk/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
adjective: acidic
1.
having the properties of an acid, or containing acid; having a pH below 7.
"a cocktail of acidic pollutants"

I offered a Kanzi apple to a friend and he told me it was too "tarty"
May be the ocean is tarty too?

Let's see what an acid is shall we? Far from being a term that can be played with, it is a very technical term that means something real, not imaginary.
You probably know that to make the colour green you mix blue and yellow. Depending of the proportions you get different shades of green. So if you add a bit of blue to the colour green do you say you are "blueing" the green? or if you add yellow you are yellowing it? No. The green is defined by the spectrum it reflects, not by the fancy of words used.

Acid
Chemical compound
Description
An acid is a molecule or ion capable of donating a proton, or, alternatively, capable of forming a covalent bond with an electron pair.

So there you have it, you do not "acidificate" nothing by reducing the PH, you simply have a different grade of alcaly. In order to call something acid, it has to be able to donate H+ or it is not acid, not acidic not acidificating nor tarty. PH8 or 8.2 or 7.5 is an alcaly and can not donate H+. End of debate.

The above is just one example of the rubbish we have to endure from the puppeteers who pull the strings of the agitators who in turn motivate the usual suspects, be it left leaning, eco friendly, virtue signalling, cheerleaders, in search of a cause.

I am still waiting for the 9 meters ocean rising. Now there is something that can not be faked. We have the oldest record of sea level right here at our doorstep and it is as steady as.

And before someone asks, yes, I studied climatology in University well before it was used to steal tax money from entire countries by scaremongering with fake data.

[S/V Illusion]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

This Max Planck Institute? These guys? Or is there another one?

There is a grant arm and then there are objective science researchers. You seem to have cherry picked the former. And if you read their data, it’s derivative of that complied from some dubious sources.

Are you a climate scientist?

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Marc1

What a lot of hog wash.

acidification
/əsɪdɪfɪˈkeɪʃ(ə)n/
noun
the action or process of making or becoming acidic.
"the acidification of Arctic seas threatens organisms"

[ ha ha, trust wiki to lean left and warmist even if it is nonsense ]
So what is this "acidic" term (very technical)

acidic
/əˈsɪdɪk/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
adjective: acidic
1.
having the properties of an acid, or containing acid; having a pH below 7.
"a cocktail of acidic pollutants"

I offered a Kanzi apple to a friend and he told me it was too "tarty"
May be the ocean is tarty too?

Let's see what an acid is shall we? Far from being a term that can be played with, it is a very technical term that means something real, not imaginary.
You probably know that to make the colour green you mix blue and yellow. Depending of the proportions you get different shades of green. So if you add a bit of blue to the colour green do you say you are "blueing" the green? or if you add yellow you are yellowing it? No. The green is defined by the spectrum it reflects, not by the fancy of words used.

Acid
Chemical compound
Description
An acid is a molecule or ion capable of donating a proton, or, alternatively, capable of forming a covalent bond with an electron pair.

So there you have it, you do not "acidificate" nothing by reducing the PH, you simply have a different grade of alcaly. In order to call something acid, it has to be able to donate H+ or it is not acid, not acidic not acidificating nor tarty. PH8 or 8.2 or 7.5 is an alcaly and can not donate H+. End of debate.

The above is just one example of the rubbish we have to endure from the puppeteers who pull the strings of the agitators who in turn motivate the usual suspects, be it left leaning eco friendly virtue signalling cheerleaders in search of a cause.

I am still waiting for the 9 meters ocean rising. Now there is something that can not be faked. We have the oldest record of sea level right here at our doorstep and it is as steady as.

And before someone asks, yes, I studied climatology in University well before it was used to steal tax money from entire countries by scaremongering with fake data.

like this ?
https://youtu.be/9mjOmsqIibk

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by Marc1

What a lot of hog wash.

acidification
/əsɪdɪfɪˈkeɪʃ(ə)n/
noun
the action or process of making or becoming acidic.
"the acidification of Arctic seas threatens organisms"

[ ha ha, trust wiki to lean left and warmist even if it is nonsense ]
So what is this "acidic" term (very technical)

acidic
/əˈsɪdɪk/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
adjective: acidic
1.
having the properties of an acid, or containing acid; having a pH below 7.
"a cocktail of acidic pollutants"

I offered a Kanzi apple to a friend and he told me it was too "tarty"
May be the ocean is tarty too?

Let's see what an acid is shall we? Far from being a term that can be played with, it is a very technical term that means something real, not imaginary.
You probably know that to make the colour green you mix blue and yellow. Depending of the proportions you get different shades of green. So if you add a bit of blue to the colour green do you say you are "blueing" the green? or if you add yellow you are yellowing it? No. The green is defined by the spectrum it reflects, not by the fancy of words used.

Acid
Chemical compound
Description
An acid is a molecule or ion capable of donating a proton, or, alternatively, capable of forming a covalent bond with an electron pair.

So there you have it, you do not "acidificate" nothing by reducing the PH, you simply have a different grade of alcaly. In order to call something acid, it has to be able to donate H+ or it is not acid, not acidic not acidificating nor tarty. PH8 or 8.2 or 7.5 is an alcaly and can not donate H+. End of debate.

The above is just one example of the rubbish we have to endure from the puppeteers who pull the strings of the agitators who in turn motivate the usual suspects, be it left leaning, eco friendly, virtue signalling, cheerleaders, in search of a cause.

I am still waiting for the 9 meters ocean rising. Now there is something that can not be faked. We have the oldest record of sea level right here at our doorstep and it is as steady as.

And before someone asks, yes, I studied climatology in University well before it was used to steal tax money from entire countries by scaremongering with fake data.

Here's the goss. Although it's just as silly as declaring that adding vinegar to citric acid causes that acid to become "more alkaline", the ocean's are becoming "more acidic" simply because "less alkaline" isn't scary enough.

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by jackdale

I get my climate science from climate scientists, not puppeteers.

So you ignore guys like James Hansen and Michael Mann?


Where does this leave the Hockey Stick after a CRAPP test???

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

Here's the goss. Although it's just as silly as declaring that adding vinegar to citric acid causes that acid to become "more alkaline", the ocean's are becoming "more acidic" simply because "less alkaline" isn't scary enough.

we have a winner.

[Marc1]

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. H. L. Mencken

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

So you ignore guys like James Hansen and Michael Mann?


Where does this leave the Hockey Stick after a CRAPP test???

Hansen's predictions have all failed .
Mann well he is another kind of huckster.
Not even a climatologist he is barely even a geologist .
He got his degree in geology by writing a graduate thesis based on dendrochronology
Which he did backwards coming up with his hockey stick off of a limited sampling .

Small tree growth rings are a result of both warm and dry and cold and dry more so cold dry .

Think Stradivarius from the lia

[Marc1]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

Here's the goss. Although it's just as silly as declaring that adding vinegar to citric acid causes that acid to become "more alkaline", the ocean's are becoming "more acidic" simply because "less alkaline" isn't scary enough.

Ha ha, let's alcanilize Vitriol with a bit of vinegar.
of course you will need to look up Vitriol first, unless the many threads on this topic, are not example enough.

The sad side of this global warming boogeyman is that the real environment threats are ignored in favour of this fake one because it is a source of endless money. Plastic pollution of the ocean does not make any money and even when there is a cheap solution at hand with machines that can turn plastic into fuel, it is ignored. Not trendy enough.

May be we can get leonardo di caprio to fly his jet over a plastic island a few times?

By the way, no one checked the recent Google camp? The billionairs convention that take turns to tell us, the minions, how we should live.

[Marc1]

And in case some of you guys who are more sea savvy than me ... happen to sail to the Maldivians, can you solve this mistery?

At the hight of "the Maldivians are going to be under water tomorrow because I have a diesel engine and am responsible for that" ... there was a tree struggling to survive on some low land on the island that had been there for many decades and was debunking with it's presence this juicy money making myth.
So apparently some australians decided to pull it down to reinforce the devastation of the supposed rising sea level.

if you can find something out, send an email this way

https://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=118

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by S/V Illusion

There is a grant arm and then there are objective science researchers. You seem to have cherry picked the former. And if you read their data, it’s derivative of that complied from some dubious sources.

In your link free post, you cited an institution that you don't actually trust?

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by S/V Illusion

... As to temperature, the folks at the Max Plank Institute, which isn’t beholden to grant money perspectives, have presented objective evidence corroborating the conclusion the expanding sun is substantially the cause of any quantifiable climate change and further, they note no quantifiable evidence exists to validate the claim anthropogenic climate change is real...

Not according to my cursory reading of MPG papers.

ie:

“... All of humanity must participate in the fight against climate change. People and countries must cooperate with each other if they want to at least limit the consequences of the man-made impact that increases temperature ..”
➥ https://www.mpg.de/12115953/climate-change-quick-action

“... The recently diagnosed climate change over the last 150 years with its global warming trend cannot be explained simply by the changes in solar radiation or by internal variability, the human impact (CO2 emissions) must be taken into account...”
➥ https://www.mpimet.mpg.de/en/communi...st-1200-years/