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19-08-2019, 10:33
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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Originally Posted by newhaul
And that heat is already being lost to space quite rapidly relatively speaking.
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Duh. You are denying the GHE. Silly boy.
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19-08-2019, 10:38
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#1547
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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Originally Posted by jackdale
Duh. You are denying the GHE. Silly boy.
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the GHE is a misnomer and not denying the " ghe" . The fact is we are losing more to space than is coming in . Someone opened the window in your greenhouse. And put a cloud over it .
You don't think ahead much do you .
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19-08-2019, 10:52
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#1548
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
Sometimes it comes to mind mankind doesn't deserve this planet 
Where's Thanos when you need him..
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19-08-2019, 10:58
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#1549
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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19-08-2019, 11:19
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#1550
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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a very dangerous version of doxing .
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19-08-2019, 11:24
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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Originally Posted by newhaul
a very dangerous version of doxing .
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Agree, and I reckon it's going worse in the near future. Instead of arguing over climate what can we do?
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19-08-2019, 11:33
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#1552
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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Originally Posted by TeddyDiver
Agree, and I reckon it's going worse in the near future. Instead of arguing over climate what can we do?
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us on this platform .
Not much report the issues about that stuff before people get dead .
Had one like that in my state a few years ago someone did this to a guy in port Angeles saying he was a pedo with no proof . The guy that was " doxed" received a 12 gauge 00 buck shot to the face .
It is some serious Crap.
As to the climate change issue well it has always changed .
We should just go sailing .
Picking up any trash we see along the way for proper shore disposal .
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19-08-2019, 11:36
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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Originally Posted by Exile
... In other words, a graph showing correlation from a single temperature dataset only resolves it for those who made up their minds long ago, and have no further interest in objectivity.
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What should it (the correlating data sets) say to someone who didn't make up their minds long ago, and still do have an interest in objectivity?
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19-08-2019, 11:43
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#1554
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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Originally Posted by GordMay
What should it (the correlating data set) say to someone who didn't make up their minds long ago, and still do have an interest in objectivity?
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heck they aren't even sure about ocean temperature data before satellites now they feel that the data may have been as much as .5℃ on the low side when recorded due to various materials the buckets were made of .
If you raise the pre satellite ocean temps by .5℃ it changes every temperature model that they have ever developed and used.
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/19/75077...-with-a-bucket
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19-08-2019, 11:52
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
Let’s see if we can agree on some basic facts:
Does the combustion of fossil fuels release CO2?
If so, where does that CO2 go?
Did the combustion of fossil fuels increase dramatically, during/after the industrial revolution?
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19-08-2019, 12:08
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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Originally Posted by newhaul
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We should just go sailing .
Picking up any trash we see along the way for proper shore disposal .
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I'm preparing to pour 1800kg lead next weekend if the mould has dried enough. One step closer to abandon terra firma.
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19-08-2019, 12:14
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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Originally Posted by TeddyDiver
I'm preparing to pour 1800kg lead next weekend if the mould has dried enough. One step closer to abandon terra firma.
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that's awesome news keep us informed . Do you have a build thread ?
I'm real close to cutting the lines myself . Dad passed on the 12th so now waiting go get the estates settled and I'm off .
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19-08-2019, 12:19
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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Originally Posted by Exile
So by your logic CF'ers agreeing with the many physicists, astrophysicists, geophysicists, physical geographers, and even a few climate scientists who are skeptical about certain aspects of "the" science are trolls or not debating in good faith?
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Both the American Geophysical Union and the American Physical Society have strong statements on climate change.
https://sciencepolicy.agu.org/climate-change/
https://www.aps.org/policy/statements/15_3.cfm
Between them, they have over 100,000 members.
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19-08-2019, 12:20
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#1559
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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Originally Posted by newhaul
the GHE is a misnomer and not denying the " ghe" . The fact is we are losing more to space than is coming in .
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Bull crap. The stratosphere is cooling because heat is trapped in the troposphere.
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19-08-2019, 12:21
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#1560
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
Quote:
Originally Posted by GordMay
Let’s see if we can agree on some basic facts:
Does the combustion of fossil fuels release CO2?
If so, where does that CO2 go?
Did the combustion of fossil fuels increase dramatically, during/after the industrial revolution?
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yes it does release carbon but so does the burning of ethanol and at a higher rate than gasoline ever did gallon for gallon.
Do you really want the full list of where the carbon goes?
It is a long list.
Do you like being able to turn on the lights ? Brought to you by fossil fuels
Do you like the food in the store Instead of having to grow it all yourself ? Thank the ancient plants.
Do you like your fiberglass boat? Thank fossil fuels.
Do you like paying for stuff you don't have ? Thank big government.
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