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16-05-2010, 12:25
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Wash DC
Boat: PETERSON 44
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Luck
While denying that I should be doing some work that reduces this so called need for luck I thought I should kick this off instead. If Im lucky Ill get inspired and clean the bilges. If inspiration finds its way aboard I wont be found saying damn Im lucky that bottle cap didn't get sucked up into the bilge pump.Relying on it seems counter intuitive. Nor do I think you can make it. If you could there would be threads about cheap Chinese knock offs." I had good experience with the Chinese luck until the freighter appeared. I may have just run out but it didn't last as long as the other brands.
Then we can enter the new luck verses the conventional luck debate. Might be something like this. My old luck has always worked just fine. I cant seem to justify the expense of buying new luck based upon a bunch of hype and marketing is there real a difference? xzxzx says I have tested the new luck in a number of environments you must be out of your mind using that old crap.please see the pictures of my jeep dragging old luck all over my neighbors beech.
Even better we can go into the multi luck or singular luck conversation.
In no way am I discouraging luck. Several years ago while cutting through woods hole I screwed up or ran out of luck. I knew to be vigilant I knew it gets confusing. Maybe I was tired or ran out of luck. I missed the cut by a bouy. Lucky for me though some guy a ways back sat on his air horn I doubled up on my where abouts and avoided a grounding. Later that summer I stuck hard onto a bank on the connecticut river. Luckily prior to this I had wrapped so many miles of lobster pot warp around my prop I was able to open a second hand and vintage rope store fully stocked.
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16-05-2010, 13:05
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South coast of England, moving around a bit.
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I have friendly correspondance with a circumnavigator. He regularly affirms that we make our own 'luck'. Think out side the box, be prepared and then when everything goes smoothly, say 'I was lucky' to your admiring audience
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16-05-2010, 17:27
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: CLOD in OH
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LUCK AND KARMIA ARE TWINS,IF YOU APPROACH A DOCK TO "HOT" AND STIFF THE DOCK BOY WHO THROWS HIS BOD BETWEEN YOUR BRIGHT WORK AND THAT KNARLY PILLING , LUCK WILL EXACT HER REVENGE
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22-05-2010, 20:15
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Senior Cruiser

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Location: PORTUGAL
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Luck is a Lady....
She's Fickle....
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"It is better to die standing proud, than to live a lifetime on ones knees.."
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23-05-2010, 05:20
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Moderator and Certifiable Refitter
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Location: South of 43 S, Australia
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Luck favours the prepared!
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23-05-2010, 05:40
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
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John Vigor has this concept that I can't quite recall exactly, and my copy of The Capable Offshore Sailboat lies on the nightstand next to the sleeping Admiral. Exact quotation will have to wait.
None-the-less his concept is that every time you do something good for the boat, do something preventative or in preparation you acquire some kind of "credit" that you may draw down on at times when you need it most.
It is sort of a long winded way of saying "Luck favors the prepared."
Then it was Napoleon who said "I would rather have a lucky General than a good one." thus acknowledging the powerful role luck plays in our life.
Luck is powerful voodoo.
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23-05-2010, 06:28
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
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I thought luck favored the rich bugger who has the mechanic on Speed Dial.
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23-05-2010, 06:51
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hpeer
John Vigor has this concept that I can't quite recall exactly ...
... his concept is that every time you do something good for the boat, do something preventative or in preparation you acquire some kind of "credit" that you may draw down on at times when you need it most.
It is sort of a long winded way of saying "Luck favors the prepared." ...
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As hpeer indicates, “Vigor’s Black Box Theory”, proposes that there is no such thing as “fortuitous” luck; but that one “earns” good luck by diligent & constant acts of seamanship.
John Vigor’s “Black Box Theory”
From Good Old Boat Magazine: Volume 2, Number 4, July/August 1999
Here ➥ Good Old Boat: Vigor's Black Box Theory by John Vigor
Or ➥ The Black Box Theory: Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water . . . Why is it that some sailors go quietly about their business, consistently making quick, safe, and satisfying passages, while others lurch erratically from port to p
Summarised:
“... I always imagine that every boat has a secret black box that collects the Brownie points you earn for every seamanlike action you take. Every time you check the oil level on the engine, no matter how awkward it is to reach the dipstick, you get a point. Every time you buy a real paper chart of an area you want to explore, you get a point. Every time you get up in the middle of the night and go on deck in the rain to check your anchor bearing, you get a point. For that matter, you also get a point for even having an anchor bearing to begin with. You get points (quite a few actually) for imagining what would happen on deck and down below if your boat were turned turtle by a large wave, and doing something about it. And so forth, ad infinitum.
Now, it can happen to any boat, no matter how well found and well handled, that a time will come when human skill and effort can do no more to rescue it from a perilous position. But if you have points in the black box you can spend them to ensure that your boat will survive. You don’t have to withdraw the points. They expend themselves automatically as necessary...”
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23-05-2010, 07:02
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkJ
I thought luck favored the rich bugger who has the mechanic on Speed Dial.

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I think the song says being a rock star also works on the Speed Dial thing
Dust off that Geetar (axe  )
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23-05-2010, 09:12
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Registered User
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Location: Lviv, Ukraine
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There is no such thing as bad luck. Only good luck in disguise.
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23-05-2010, 09:32
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey
I think the song says being a rock star also works on the Speed Dial thing
Dust off that Geetar (axe  )
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What happened to your head? Been charged by the American police?
Its very scary when people change their profile pics.
You look very hansom. I won't let Nicolle look!
Mark
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23-05-2010, 10:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkJ
What happened to your head? Been charged by the American police?
Its very scary when people change their profile pics.
You look very hansom. I won't let Nicolle look!
Mark
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Mark... thats what happens when you get the 'Estimate'.....
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You can't oppress a people for so many decades and have them say.. "I Love You.. ".
"It is better to die standing proud, than to live a lifetime on ones knees.."
Self Defence is no excuse for Genocide...
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23-05-2010, 10:31
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
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and that's my good side
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23-05-2010, 10:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey
and that's my good side 
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Damn... not just a nicer boat...
The beards better than mine as well.....
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You can't oppress a people for so many decades and have them say.. "I Love You.. ".
"It is better to die standing proud, than to live a lifetime on ones knees.."
Self Defence is no excuse for Genocide...
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23-05-2010, 13:04
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Though a longer head of hair before I shaved it off in 08....
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You can't oppress a people for so many decades and have them say.. "I Love You.. ".
"It is better to die standing proud, than to live a lifetime on ones knees.."
Self Defence is no excuse for Genocide...
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