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19-12-2015, 18:05
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In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex
I just saw the movie today....
Not a movie critic, but I would give it a solid
I think many sailors will enjoy it.
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20-12-2015, 09:01
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Re: In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex
I liked the book
Why can't things remain where i carelessly left them?
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20-12-2015, 09:09
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Re: In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex
I saw this film yesterday. I found it to be very enjoyable indeed.
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20-12-2015, 09:21
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Re: In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex
But why was Thor killing whales?
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26-12-2015, 09:24
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Re: In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex
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Originally Posted by Saleen411
I just saw the movie today....
Not a movie critic, but I would give it a solid
I think many sailors will enjoy it.
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Saleen,
How about a little teaser? What's it about?
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26-12-2015, 09:32
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Re: In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex
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Saleen,
How about a little teaser? What's it about?
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The Essex was an American whaleship from Nantucket, Massachusetts. The ship, captained by George Pollard, Jr., was attacked and sunk by a sperm whale in the southern Pacific Ocean in 1820. The twenty-man crew was stranded at sea with scarce food and water. Men began to quickly die. During the 95 days that the survivors were at sea, they ate the bodies of five crewmen who died. When that was insufficient, members of the crew drew spots to determine who would be sacrificed so that the others could live. Two crew members were killed and cannibalized by the others before the eight survivors were rescued.
An incredible story...
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26-12-2015, 09:38
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Re: In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex
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Originally Posted by rognvald
Saleen,
How about a little teaser? What's it about?
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I'd hazard a guess it was about the Essex… inspiration for Moby Dick and one of the great, brutal stories of survival and the "custom of the sea" (cannibalism). Was a test trial as lots were drawn in the surviving whaleboat, and the youngest member (ironically named "Coffin") was killed before dying, in order to be eaten. His killers and eaters were absolved… but did not really recover in any case, fully.
(Edit: Saleen beat me to it, reasonably enough, looks like you have munching rights, S. )
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26-12-2015, 10:07
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Re: In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex
Sounds gruesome but I'll give it a try.
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26-12-2015, 10:54
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Re: In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex
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Originally Posted by Muckle Flugga
I'd hazard a guess it was about the Essex… inspiration for Moby Dick and one of the great, brutal stories of survival and the "custom of the sea" (cannibalism). Was a test trial as lots were drawn in the surviving whaleboat, and the youngest member (ironically named "Coffin") was killed before dying, in order to be eaten. His killers and eaters were absolved… but did not really recover in any case, fully.
(Edit: Saleen beat me to it, reasonably enough, looks like you have munching rights, S. )
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Maybe blending two separate stories. The story of the Essex is suspected of being the inspiration for Moby Dick. It has a lot of similarities and occurred during the time when Melvile was working in whaling.
There is another book that takes its title from the "custom of the sea". Based on a true story, the event resulted in a sensational trial (which was unusual for this "custom" at the time).
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26-12-2015, 10:55
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Re: In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex
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Originally Posted by Saleen411
I just saw the movie today....
Not a movie critic, but I would give it a solid
I think many sailors will enjoy it.
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Where did you find the movie?
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26-12-2015, 11:07
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Re: In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex
If it's about the Essex it would be boring and gruesome.
"Know him? Hell I et him!" One of my favorite all time quotes.
I can't imagine the "real" story being told.
Years ago I read top the first book about the story, the Captains account. Then some years later I found Ownen Chase's account. Fascinating reading, right up there with the Bleigh saga and Bob Bartlett Karaluck tale.
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26-12-2015, 11:12
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Re: In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex
It is interesting that Melville talked to Richard Henry Dana for some of the details ,even though Melville had done a South Pacific voyage on a sailing ship. Melville wrote "Typee Vai" (spelling?) about his adventures in the Marquesas and it was a big hit at the time, but now, no one but a few hard core sailors have ever heard of it. Moby Dick is all that he is really remembered for. I saw IN THE HEART OF THE SEA last week and liked it a lot. It doesnt phoney up, or sugar coat a whalers life. _____Grant.
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26-12-2015, 11:25
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Re: In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex
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Originally Posted by belizesailor
Where did you find the movie?
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It's in theaters now, I believe.
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26-12-2015, 11:33
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Re: In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex
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Originally Posted by belizesailor
Maybe blending two separate stories. The story of the Essex is suspected of being the inspiration for Moby Dick. It has a lot of similarities and occurred during the time when Melvile was working in whaling.
There is another book that takes its title from the "custom of the sea". Based on a true story, the event resulted in a sensational trial (which was unusual for this "custom" at the time).
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Well, I really don't think I am. What would this "other book" be? The Essex was the inspiration for Moby Dick along with Melville's own experiences; it resulted in a sensational trial, and involved cannibalism, in particular of young master Coffin, in a clear example of what was then known as "the custom of the sea".
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26-12-2015, 11:38
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Re: In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saleen411
I just saw the movie today....
Not a movie critic, but I would give it a solid
I think many sailors will enjoy it.
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Thanks for the heads up, mate. I look forward to it!
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